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"Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 9:58:18 AM

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That's how they just described this bomb threat at London's Heathrow Airport.
In my humble opinion we need to decertify "Islam" as a "religion" and re-classify it as a dangerous cult and outlaw it in Western countries just like Christianity is outlawed in "Islamic" countries.
They also had an interview with a journalist in England and he said that there are "2 million islamic fundamentalists in Britain who are *openly hostile* to British authorities and British Society."
I think this situation has crossed the line to where it can no longer be defended in any way by the "Politically Correct."
**They just reported (CNN) that the terrorists had planned to blow up TEN (10) Airplanes over the Atlantic with liquid explosives.**
As far as I'm concerned, let the mass deportations begin!
It's obvious that these people are not going to stop.
Oh, and if anyone in here would like to call me a "Bigot" go right ahead.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:06:46 AM

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I hear you popeye, but there are some people who will spin this to blame The US and Britain. As if we are the cause for all this hostility. These people have taken appeasement to a new level and will bury their heads in the sand in order to avoid dealing with the reality of the world.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:11:31 AM

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All you followers of Moses are equally insane. Have your apocalypse, but leave the rest of us well out of it.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:12:31 AM

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E-String, yup, those people make Nevill Chamberlain look like Gengis Kahn.
Is this what they call "The Stockholm Syndrome?"

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:16:05 AM

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Hi Popeye you bigot! (sorry, I dont think you are but you did invite it LOL!)

We have talked of nothing but all day, with solutions ranging from processing all Moslems through concentration camps to make them swear first allegiance to the Queen rather than Islam (the idea being that the nutters would never do so), the repatriation you suggest (though many are now third generation British), shooting the bloomin' lot of them (not serious I hope - ever shot a 3 year old girl?), no fly orders for anyone Moslem or suspected to be, etc etc. The bases seemingly being that if we cant tell the good from the bad, then let God (whoever that might be) sort them out.

The only real solution though seems simple - for us in the west to stop behaving like asses by backing the indefensible actions of the Israelis, close Guantanamo and try the people there for better or worse and stop making war on Islamic countries. However, although that would defuse much of the Moslem anger out there which produces these nutters in the first place - I fear that things may now have gone too far for any reconciliation in our lifetimes - we missed that boat years ago. Thats not to say we need not do these things in order to hinder further recruitment to the nutter brigade mind you.

So if there cannot be reconciliation, and we cant tell good from bad and must assume prejudicially all to be bad, then it may well have to be that some dire option must be adopted.

I propose we take ten seats on every plane out of the UK, and in those ten seats must sit ten male Moslem children aged 3 to 6. Watch how many explosions there are then, and if there are any - how long the remaining plotters remain free or even alive.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:20:23 AM

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All you followers of Moses are equally insane. Have your apocalypse, but leave the rest of us well out of it.

Who is following Moses?

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:26:00 AM

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Lady Ellen, they said on CNN in an interview with a British journalist about 15 minutes ago that British Citizenship means "nothing" to these people; "They are Muslims first and foremost."
It doesn't really matter which "Generation" they are.
I wish someone had smothered Osama Bin Laden in his crib when he was 3 years old.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:26:28 AM

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Hi Popeye you bigot! (sorry, I dont think you are but you did invite it LOL!)

We have talked of nothing but all day, with solutions ranging from processing all Moslems through concentration camps to make them swear first allegiance to the Queen rather than Islam (the idea being that the nutters would never do so), the repatriation you suggest (though many are now third generation British), shooting the bloomin' lot of them (not serious I hope - ever shot a 3 year old girl?), no fly orders for anyone Moslem or suspected to be, etc etc. The bases seemingly being that if we cant tell the good from the bad, then let God (whoever that might be) sort them out.

The only real solution though seems simple - for us in the west to stop behaving like asses by backing the indefensible actions of the Israelis, close Guantanamo and try the people there for better or worse and stop making war on Islamic countries. However, although that would defuse much of the Moslem anger out there which produces these nutters in the first place - I fear that things may now have gone too far for any reconciliation in our lifetimes - we missed that boat years ago. Thats not to say we need not do these things in order to hinder further recruitment to the nutter brigade mind you.

So if there cannot be reconciliation, and we cant tell good from bad and must assume prejudicially all to be bad, then it may well have to be that some dire option must be adopted.

I propose we take ten seats on every plane out of the UK, and in those ten seats must sit ten male Moslem children aged 3 to 6. Watch how many explosions there are then, and if there are any - how long the remaining plotters remain free or even alive.

E

If you really believe that if the US or Britain or Israel didn't exist then these Muslim fanatics would be gentle sheperds and live in peace with their neighbors, you are pretty naive. Do you remember Iran vs. Iraq? How about Iraq invading Kuwait?
And I would bet that there were quite a few innocent Muslims who would have been blown up along with everyone else on those planes if the plan hadn't been thwarted. Since when have these fanatics cared about killing fellow Muslims?
And let's repeat this one more time, slowly so you will get it: We are not waging war on Islamic countries, we are waging war against Muslim fanatics.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:31:53 AM

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Lady Ellen, the thing is is that there'll be another "21" or "50" or whatever sometime in the future.
"We" have to be "lucky" every single time.
"They" only have to be "lucky" once.
Muslims just can't live or be in Western countries anymore.
They called it, not us.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:38:13 AM

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Our governments are begging for retaliation. We started this a long time ago.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:40:38 AM

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Lady Ellen, the thing is is that there'll be another "21" or "50" or whatever sometime in the future.
"We" have to be "lucky" every single time.
"They" only have to be "lucky" once.
Muslims just can't live or be in Western countries anymore.
They called it, not us.

Lady Ellen was complaining about Sharia Law on another thread. 1/3 of British Muslims said in a survey that they would rather live under Sharia Law then British Law. There was a great documentary a few years ago called "Jihad In America". It showed the hatred of America that was preached in many mosques in The US. They do not want our values. They do not want to live in peace with us. They want to destroy us. Europe is already doomed in my opinion, I can only hope we here in the US wise up soon.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:50:09 AM

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E-String, agreed.
Thank God for the Second Amendment because that's the direction it's heading in.
The "Rednecks" in this state have no compunction about doing a little "Night-Ridin'" either. You can legally carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle in this state in the glove box or the console without any type of permit.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 10:53:18 AM

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Our governments are begging for retaliation. We started this a long time ago.

When exactly did we start this?

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 11:00:48 AM

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Our governments are begging for retaliation. We started this a long time ago.

When exactly did we start this?

The creation of Israel? The Crusades? Regime changes?

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 11:09:12 AM

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Our governments are begging for retaliation. We started this a long time ago.

When exactly did we start this?

The creation of Israel? The Crusades? Regime changes?

So of all the countries in the world, Israel is the only one who doesn't have the right to exist?
And we did regime change in Japan and Germany too, I don't see them blowing up any airplanes.
And I may be wrong, but I don't think The US was around during The Crusades.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 11:09:12 AM

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I find the scale of the casualties perfectly imaginable. I just turn on my tele each evening and see crimes of this scale committed by the Israelis with weapons supplied by their sponsor state the US. I am sick to death of manaiacal Islamic terrorists, but I am also getting fed up to the back teeth of having this shadow over my life in order to allow the Israelis to enjoy the luxury of their dubiously legitimate state

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 11:13:31 AM

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I find the scale of the casualties perfectly imaginable. I just turn on my tele each evening and see crimes of this scale committed by the Israelis with weapons supplied by their sponsor state the US. I am sick to death of manaiacal Islamic terrorists, but I am also getting fed up to the back teeth of having this shadow over my life in order to allow the Israelis to enjoy the luxury of their dubiously legitimate state

So what should Israel do? Let itself be destroyed? I would imagine that Israel is a lot sicker of Islamic terrorists than you are. You may get your favorite tv shows interrupted, but they are fighting for survival.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 11:30:07 AM

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Our governments are begging for retaliation. We started this a long time ago.

When exactly did we start this?

The creation of Israel? The Crusades? Regime changes?

So of all the countries in the world, Israel is the only one who doesn't have the right to exist?
And we did regime change in Japan and Germany too, I don't see them blowing up any airplanes.
And I may be wrong, but I don't think The US was around during The Crusades.

I know it was not (The US) but this is also directed at England as well. Japan and Germany were allies in a war on a large scale already that attacked on our soil. Yes Osama and his men attacked us, I am not disputing the war in Afghanistan after 9/11. I think the US and UK have stuck their noses in so many places they didn't belong at this point that there is no way any of this will end now without WWIII. To bad we didn't go after the country that actually has and was making nukes, and now they have them, and firing off test rounds. Yay!

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 11:37:24 AM

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Our governments are begging for retaliation. We started this a long time ago.

When exactly did we start this?

The creation of Israel? The Crusades? Regime changes?

So of all the countries in the world, Israel is the only one who doesn't have the right to exist?
And we did regime change in Japan and Germany too, I don't see them blowing up any airplanes.
And I may be wrong, but I don't think The US was around during The Crusades.

I know it was not (The US) but this is also directed at England as well. Japan and Germany were allies in a war on a large scale already that attacked on our soil. Yes Osama and his men attacked us, I am not disputing the war in Afghanistan after 9/11. I think the US and UK have stuck their noses in so many places they didn't belong at this point that there is no way any of this will end now without WWIII. To bad we didn't go after the country that actually has and was making nukes, and now they have them, and firing off test rounds. Yay!

I asked this of another poster here, and didn't get much of an answer. If this is all a retaliation because of the US and Britain's actions, why did terrorists infiltrate Canada? Canada isn't fighting anyone, and have not sided with the US and Britain over Iraq. Why would they be targeted by these Islamic fanatics? My guess would be, because they are a Western society and easily infiltrated because of their adcceptance of everyone. I guess those are good reasons to be attacked.

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RE: "Mass Murder on an Un-Imaginable Scale!" - 8/10/2006 11:49:08 AM

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The situation with Israel (and the rest) does not EXCUSE these plots, but it EXPLAINS the anger which produces the nutters plotting against us all. After all, are we not getting pretty pissed off with these attacks on our people and culture?

I expect it to be not too long before mosques are burning all over Europe. It wont solve anything, just like today's plots wouldnt have solved anything, but it sure does express anger and resistance just the same.

The problem with such retaliations though, is that they will bring things rapidly to a head and result in widespread death and destruction of mostly innocents as is usual in conflict.

The question is whether we are ready for such a conflict?
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