Termyn8or
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Feline;
Agreeing to disagree ? I don't think you understand it the same way. I say you WANT your body to go into survival mode. At the end of the fast I said DO NOT BINGE.
Yes your body is going to hoard every "calorie" it can, the trick is to only give it what it needs. I have been in this mode since about 1998 and despite drinking, smoking and a sedentary lifestyle I am not only not gaining weight, my back and knee problems are gone and at 45 there is not one gray hair on my head (a few in the beard), and I have very strong bones and teeth. With my slower metabolism my body has TIME to completely digest the food.
You purport not to advocate this practice, all fine and good, but I am familiar with all the medical dogma about it. What I do is close to, but not exactly the Atkins diet.
Eating once a day is great once the body gets used to it. I do not feel hungry until around eating time, which actually varies. Eating may be delayed by me being busy, or of I happen to be displeased or (rarley) angry. Also if I don't feel hungry at the time, I will wait.
When I do eat I am very careful about what. It did me wonders to get rid of most of the carbs. Problem is they need to replaced with the right stuff.
I used to fast on and off several times a year, now I only do it about once a year, but this helps me I believe. After the fast I start gradually.
Basically this has taken my hunger reflex from being a Pavlovic reaction to being a true response to my body's needs. I can again "work up an appetite", that is if I do some physically strenuous work, I will eat more that night. At times I get a serious hankering for something with alot of garlic, or something spicy, maybe even something crispy.
There are few other things I do that are not for everybody though, I like to get hot chicken wings at times. When I eat them I usually eat all the cartilage off of them, and even get to the point of biting the bone and sucking the marrow. I don't eat all the marrow, just some. I have been known to eat peanuts with the shells on, though this is not as uncommon as I had once thought. I know a couple other people who do it as well.
When I need something to eat with a sandwich, a nice small bowl of soup is good, but I don't use noodles. I got lots of veggies in there. Noodles would double carb me with the bread on the sandwich. Lacking that I will not look for potato chips, I'll grab a couple of banana peppers (hot of course, like vlasic) and/or some pickle spears. Stuff like that.
I will even eat a plate of spagetti, but only about once a month, actually longer than a month. Pasta of any kind is once a month MAX for me, and my plate of about 6 oz of pasta will have 2 or 3 meatballs, at least 2 links of sausage and usually a rib. (ribs are real good in spagetti sauce)
One recent change I made was to lessen my milk intake. I don't crave it like I used to. I used to put down a full big coffecup full before pouring my coffee in. Then after work I would slake down about a quart and a half as soon as I walked in the door. I haven't eliminated milk, but I did cut down. I don't have the hankering, and if I do overdo it, nowadays I feel bloated. Thus I adjusted my intake to what my body is trying to tell me about it's current needs.
I think the data I am getting about my body's needs is alot truer than seeing that it's lunchtime. I WILL NOT eat if I am not hungry, and believe me, sometimes 2 AM is the time. That's just how it is.
Disagree if you want Feline, but this plan is a good, effective solution for some. It should not be summarily dismissed. I don't care how many letters you have after your name, or those from whom you get your information. You could be noted as the most advanced physician and dietician in the world but that doesn't make you right.
There is alot of bad science out there, and alot of skewed data which causes the wrong conclusions to be drawn sometimes, even by the highly competent. You see evidence of that every day, in fact I read somewhere that MDs had among the highest incidence of heart disease among the professions. I will see if I can substantiate that, so aside with it for now. Simply look around you out there and see all the overweight people, and the sick people, the incidence of preventable diseases. The people aging before their time, gray hair and no teeth at 40.
Basically that tells me the system is not working. So I got out of it and I am totally glad I did.
Although I don't habitually use drugs, I am a smoker and drinker. In fact I have been a heavy smoker for over 20 years. A few years ago it was time to winterize the pool at my buddy's house, there is this big pillow you put on top of it, under the cover.
They couldn't find the vacuum cleaner attachment and his cocky 17 year old son said "You could blow that up in 2 minutes". He seemed like he was referring to what he could do because he knew I was a heavy smoker. Well, his Mother is the one who, years ago, came up with my nickname, Terminator. I blew it up in 2 minutes and 14 seconds. This kid was quite a bit of an athelete at the time. He saw us sitting there with our beer and cigarettes and as I said, he was cocky. I know what he wanted. The kid was very very surprised to see me do it that fast.
At the time I think I was in my fourth year of this plan, the way I eat now. Previously I would've had trouble getting out of the chair to GRAB the pool pillow because of back and knee problems. I have eyewitnesses to this. Four years on my modified, bastardised, almost Atkins plan and there I was smoking and drinking as much as ever and still had some wind.
In fact when I was done I wanted to deflate it to see how long it took the kid ! He declined the challenge. Wimp ! I almost decided to deflate it and do it again, it was sort of invigorating ! Really.
So what is wrong with the plan ?
T
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