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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 7:59:45 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		This can actually be pretty common in all relationships, especially those that are headed towards negative co-dependency (notice I said negative...I don't think co-dep is bad in and of itself). A lot of people, especially women (but in our case, we'd save sub/slave), have the Damsel Archetype. From Carolyn Myss:

"The Princess is more often associated with romance rather than distress. She awaits a Knight who is worthy of her beauty and rank and will take her not to his castle but to a palace. The castles that Damsels are taken to have prisons, cold stone walls, drawbridges, and moats. Palaces are fantastically beautiful and charmed and are associated with ballrooms and elegance. The common (archetypal) expression, "Daddy's little Princess" implies an adoring father who brings up his daughter surrounded by beauty and abundance. There is no "Daddy's little Damsel in Distress." The Princess and the Damsel, however, both are taught to be helpless and do share a yearning for a Knight as a partner in life, the implication being that without a Knight, they are powerless in this world. The challenge inherent in these archetypal patterns, therefore, is to do for yourself what you expect the Knight to do for you--provide and protect yourself."

A lot of people, especially Doms/Masters, have either the Knight Archetype or the Rescuer Archetype. Again, from Carolyn Myss:

"The Knight archetype is primarily associated with chivalry, courtly romance, protection of the Princess, and going to battle only for honorable causes...In its negative aspect, the Knight can also...fall into a pattern of saving others but ignoring his own needs. A true Knight...walks the fine line between self-sacrifice and self-neglect."

"In its empowered profile, the Rescuer assists when needed and, once the rescue mission is accomplished, withdraws. A Rescuer provides an infusion of strength and support to help others to survive a difficult situation, crisis, or process that they lack the stamina or the inner knowledge to maneuver through themselves....The shadow Rescuer often surfaces through a romantic connection in which one party seeks to establish an intimate bond by lending emotional support, with a hidden agenda that assumes the rescued party will return the Rescuer's romantic feelings. Such romances are destined to fail, because the shadow agenda has to keep the "rescuee" in need of being rescued, lest the Rescuer lose her significance."

I see aspects of myself in these, even though I didn't choose any as my 12 personal Archetypes. Matching the shadow aspects of these archetypes together and you get exactly what you're talking about. We grow when we realize that it doesn't have to be that way...such as the Damsel learning to stand on her own feet. Of course, we all have the Child, Sabateur, Victim and Prostitute Archetypes playing a role, too.

So, I suppose my point here is that this kind of thing happens commonly in relationships in general...and perhaps this helps explain why. Being aware of ourselves can help us become better people and excape the shadow of these.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 8:26:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		not surte if this falls in here but recently it seems that when I try and lend a supportive ear or shoulder to people I feel like I am being set up to be labeled a fake or game player ... as recently as last night these feelings came rushing over me.
 
I am one who, when someone needs an ear I am there for them, when someone needs picking up I will help all I can. yet everytime I try and do this I have been accused of being a player. so for these reasons I am stopping as best I can from being a knight in Armor as this knight will not have his honor tarnished by those who seek to damage it.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 9:23:03 AM   
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It's funny because often times the things I say about my Master rescuing me from myself come across as this knight who rescued a damsel in distress.  I think that's my fault, for communicating as I had.  Master DID rescue me from myself, but it certainly wasn't by swooping in on his white steed and carrying me across the terrain to his castle.  It was more by a "get on your feet and use your head" approach.  I remember in our very first conversation I was whining about some hurts I had just experienced and he said "Get over it."  My reply was to snap my fingers sarcastically and say "Whoaaaa I feel better NOW!  Whew, THANKS!!"

I honestly have no idea why he stuck around after that.  But his "rescue" of me consisted of hard lessons and a lot of matter-of-fact conversations, and of being trained to temper my tongue and listen.  He saw potential in me and helped me bring it out.  But he required that I do a lot of work to do so.  It was up to me to do it. 

I say he "rescued me" but that is really because I am so grateful he came along and required me to get over myself if I wished to serve him as well as I wanted to.  There is a fine line between being patient and not tolerating bullshit.  He seemed to know precisely where to stand on it. 

So...was he my savior?  As much as I say so, he will say "You worked harder than I did, little girl."  But still I am grateful.

I thnk where some Dominants go wrong is thinking they can come in and fix everything for the submissive.  The submissive needs to do the work.  It is meaningless otherwise.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 10:02:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hate the idea of people thinking they need "rescued".  It reminds me of a neglected animal.  It's as if they have no strength without someone in their life.  I would never want a Dom to view me like that, it would make me feel inadequate and pathetic.  I like to think that I bring things to a relationship.  I do enjoy control and guidance, but lightly.  There have been times when I've said to my Dom "I need some help with x, I'm really struggling with it."  Or I may say something like "My life is so big, I don't know how do deal with x."  And he has guided me, but he hasn't solved the problem for me or rescued me.  I don't know where people get the notion that they need to be "rescued."

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 10:18:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don''t want someone who needs to be rescued, who depends on another for his primary source of happiness and worthiness, and I certainly don't need  to be rescued.  If  I am not happy with myself,  someone else won't change that for me unless I see it myself.

However, I am a romantic....  and I confess,  I want the fairytale.  I want the Prince.... a happy knight in shining in armor, prepared to serve, to love, to share life... and who also wants to live happily ever afer.  This Cinderella will just happen to enjoy seeing her Prince Charming on his knees in pretty panties.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 11:08:51 AM   
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I hate the idea of people thinking they need "rescued".  It reminds me of a neglected animal.  It's as if they have no strength without someone in their life.  I would never want a Dom to view me like that, it would make me feel inadequate and pathetic.  I like to think that I bring things to a relationship.  I do enjoy control and guidance, but lightly.  There have been times when I've said to my Dom "I need some help with x, I'm really struggling with it."  Or I may say something like "My life is so big, I don't know how do deal with x."  And he has guided me, but he hasn't solved the problem for me or rescued me.  I don't know where people get the notion that they need to be "rescued."


I didn't think I needed rescuing, either.  But I can tell you this - I was a broken person at the time with great potential, and a Masterless slave without direction.  Fortunately for me, a man came into my life who came to be the perfect Master for me. 

Some people happen to have pasts that render them broken.  It is one thing to have a woe is me attitude as a result, which in that case I would agree with your choice of word, "pathetic."  But to place everyone in that category would be a mistake.  Some really do try to dig themselves out, but have been wounded so much they are blind as to where to start.

Not everyone can be as fortunate as to have not lost their strength along the way.  Those folks should consider their good fortune, rather than snubbing the weak.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 11:32:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

I hate the idea of people thinking they need "rescued".  It reminds me of a neglected animal.  It's as if they have no strength without someone in their life.  I would never want a Dom to view me like that, it would make me feel inadequate and pathetic.  I like to think that I bring things to a relationship.  I do enjoy control and guidance, but lightly.  There have been times when I've said to my Dom "I need some help with x, I'm really struggling with it."  Or I may say something like "My life is so big, I don't know how do deal with x."  And he has guided me, but he hasn't solved the problem for me or rescued me.  I don't know where people get the notion that they need to be "rescued."


I didn't think I needed rescuing, either.  But I can tell you this - I was a broken person at the time with great potential, and a Masterless slave without direction.  Fortunately for me, a man came into my life who came to be the perfect Master for me. 

Some people happen to have pasts that render them broken.  It is one thing to have a woe is me attitude as a result, which in that case I would agree with your choice of word, "pathetic."  But to place everyone in that category would be a mistake.  Some really do try to dig themselves out, but have been wounded so much they are blind as to where to start.

Not everyone can be as fortunate as to have not lost their strength along the way.  Those folks should consider their good fortune, rather than snubbing the weak.

My first post was made before realizing what thread I was posting in (not a Master), but this time I wanted to comment on your comment.  If you have found your strength with the help of another; that's wonderful, and sometimes others do show you things you cannot see yourself.  The following is not aimed at you directly Owned, but your thoughts generally speaking.

In contrast, I have involved myself with someone who needed to be rescued.  I was young, and it was great that he needed me to such a degree, and that I could provide him with happiness he never had.  My being on the dominant side, but not yet understanding it, fed off of the way  his world revolved around mine.

Years later, when I realized the relationship was not working and I ended it.... he broke.  I was what made him strong.  He was happy with me, but not without me.  I suppose, it's a matter of whether a person is broken and someone helps him  mend the damge, or whether someone sees themselves as mended through the eyes of a second party. 



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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 11:42:23 AM   
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Years later, when I realized the relationship was not working and I ended it.... he broke.  I was what made him strong.  He was happy with me, but not without me.  I suppose, it's a matter of whether a person is broken and someone helps him  mend the damge, or whether someone sees themselves as mended through the eyes of a second party. 


While I can understand this, I can only say in my particular case, Master taught me to find my own happiness within.  God forbid he die tomorrow, I would not break all over again.  One can mend with the help of another; but I believe the healthy goal would be to actually guide the person to heal the break, not simply provide a crutch.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 11:55:34 AM   
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But to place everyone in that category would be a mistake.


Goodness, I don't place everyone in that category.  I do feel bad for people who can't seem to recognize their good qualities and focus on the bad.  And I think it's never a good idea to pin all of your hopes and dreams on another person.  It's more important to work on yourself and find your strength, and if you need guidance, there is nothing wrong with that at all.  I think it is bad to build another person up (knight in shining armor) and think they can somehow make everything right in your world.  What happens when they leave your world?  What happens when you realize they are not perfect?


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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 12:04:35 PM   
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But to place everyone in that category would be a mistake.


Goodness, I don't place everyone in that category.  I do feel bad for people who can't seem to recognize their good qualities and focus on the bad.  And I think it's never a good idea to pin all of your hopes and dreams on another person.  It's more important to work on yourself and find your strength, and if you need guidance, there is nothing wrong with that at all.  I think it is bad to build another person up (knight in shining armor) and think they can somehow make everything right in your world.  What happens when they leave your world?  What happens when you realize they are not perfect?


I must have misunderstood your post, and I apologize for doing so.

I agree with your words here, however, and kind of spoke to them in my reply to MistressLorelei.  No one should ever think their Dominant is perfect, and I understand that doing so could lead to big problems down the road.


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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 2:49:13 PM   
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I talked to him a bit about this tonite.  I know he wants to be a good Dom, he wants to help these women, be what they have wanted.  That is when I told him he couldn't be their therapist, he couldn't save them all. 
 
I think we all want to help someone when we feel they need it.  It's good to feel as though we make a difference in the world.  Does this make him any less a Dom?  No, I don't think so.  It makes him human and a good person.  He is not preying on these women, though some do.. he only wants to help.  He actually cares what they think of him, and how they feel.   That is not something I want to change in him, it's rare to find.  I just want him to protect himself some in it..not just worry about how they will react and feel about things.
 


Why is he concerned about being what these women wish to be as opposed to simply being himself? Is his need to heal or put someone back together so strong that he'll accept any stray that scratches on the door? I'm sorry, I simply don't understand this way of thinking. Relationships are difficult enough on their own. Add in the element of power exchange and you have another hurdle to topple. We aren't speaking of the individual baggage we all bring into a situation. Plus we have people that simply can't get it together on their own and need him to put things in place? I can't speak for what works for him but these are certainly not the kind of people I'd want at my side or kneeling in front of me.

Being a good person and having empathy does not imply that you are going to become someone's therapist or a self appointed Mr. Fixit. In fact, the more you speak about this the more I wonder if the problem rests with him moreso than the supposed damsels he keeps discovering. Perhaps having an emotionally whole and independent woman has become a novel concept. But then again, people in that category aren't typically swayed by the words, grand gestures, or bespeckled delusions that the lost and helpless are.

Here's an interesting thought. Imagine how much he could be doing and experiencing if his time wasn't spent being Dr. Phil. Growth is a two way street. How are they contributing to his evolution? Life is far too short for these things. I sincerely wish him the best.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 2:51:39 PM   
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I talked to him a bit about this tonite.  I know he wants to be a good Dom, he wants to help these women, be what they have wanted.  That is when I told him he couldn't be their therapist, he couldn't save them all. 
 
I think we all want to help someone when we feel they need it.  It's good to feel as though we make a difference in the world.  Does this make him any less a Dom?  No, I don't think so.  It makes him human and a good person.  He is not preying on these women, though some do.. he only wants to help.  He actually cares what they think of him, and how they feel.   That is not something I want to change in him, it's rare to find.  I just want him to protect himself some in it..not just worry about how they will react and feel about things.
 


Why is he concerned about being what these women wish to be as opposed to simply being himself? Is his need to heal or put someone back together so strong that he'll accept any stray that scratches on the door? I'm sorry, I simply don't understand this way of thinking. Relationships are difficult enough on their own. Add in the element of power exchange and you have another hurdle to topple. We aren't speaking of the individual baggage we all bring into a situation. Plus we have people that simply can't get it together on their own and need him to put things in place? I can't speak for what works for him but these are certainly not the kind of people I'd want at my side or kneeling in front of me.

Being a good person and having empathy does not imply that you are going to become someone's therapist or a self appointed Mr. Fixit. In fact, the more you speak about this the more I wonder if the problem rests with him moreso than the supposed damsels he keeps discovering. Perhaps having an emotionally whole and independent woman has become a novel concept. But then again, people in that category aren't typically swayed by the words, grand gestures, or bespeckled delusions that the lost and helpless are.

Here's an interesting thought. Imagine how much he could be doing and experiencing if his time wasn't spent being Dr. Phil. Growth is a two way street. How are they contributing to his evolution? Life is far too short for these things. I sincerely wish him the best.

porcelaine


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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 3:00:36 PM   
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Porcelaine....excellent post!

I am completely with you about having your partner go into the relationship "balanced and capable of functioning as a free standing adult"  and that they should expect that of me.  

My recent experiences back up your idea that the knight in shining armor focuses on their partner's issues to avoid dealing with their own. I've actually had men asign me "problems" that I really didn't have because, I guess, I didn't fit their 'damsel in distress' image well enough and their issues and problems have far outweighed mine.

We all have baggage....hopefully mine is down to 'carry-on' (oh bugger are there fluids in there?) and I certainly am willing to look at and work on my issues, personally I love when someone slaps me up side of the head over something  if they have a genuine point and aren't doing it to make themselves seem better.  However, those same people tend to not want that done to them....they run a mile from it....and they tend to be wearing shining armor.....the sun really bounces of the back of that stuff ;)


I have a great affinity and respect for self awareness. Having a clear understanding of who you are and what you need will combat another's ability to project their drama and insecurities upon you. I learned a long time ago to question the tape playing in my head. If I can't validate the contents or recognize the voice I dispose of it.

Being able to stand on my own and contribute fully as a partner and submissive makes me a much better mate and asset to the one I serve. You will find that the stronger you are the least likely the gallant types will come trotting in your direction. Bring me a man with grace and honor anyday. Save the horse for country outings.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/15/2006 3:25:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not big on "The Knight in Shining Armour" thing either but I wouldn't mind having a sub think of it that way AFTER we were together for a while.
I (would) be giving her a whole new way of life by her being involved with me and in a "good" way too.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/20/2006 9:12:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		When that Knight comes to fight the beast with sword in hand, you had best not be standing there waiting for him to kill it but rather grab your own sword, A knight does not become a knight alone, and when you seek a warrior you will get a warrior, one who has no time for a weak damsel in distress but would rather have a comrad in arms, you need to be rescued? he will help, the first time.... after that you begin to loose your attraction, and damsels understand this, after he fights your dragons, he will be sore, and tired, and wounded, he will NEED, and NEED alot and know that he must tend to his horse, and his arms, and his training, and his leigelord, and the castle, you will be alone for a great deal of time.

The illusion of the Knight is one of lazyness, no work in a relationship, just to be rescued and live happily ever after, where is the part of the relationship THEY put in.
I can be your knight, but for a night, then I must work, rest, and I too must have needs met, Romance is great, but you have to add alot of that.
A relationship is not 50-50, it is more like 80-20, on both sides, both must give 80 and expect 20 for it to be anywhere near 50-50
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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/20/2006 12:05:49 PM   
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On a whimsical note (OK so I have a definate Machiavellian sense of humour), my first comment regarding "Shining Armour" is that it takes a squire or two top keep it oiled and polished. Easier to have bronze armour as it's much less cleaning but bugger it I'll settle for either billed leather or chain mail (preferably 6 in 1 chain too [all the better for keeping the slings and arrows out]).

A good man with do precisely what he feels and believes to be the best according to his means. However as we are talking about knights and armour, then he will also be a "Gentleman"  well mannered and chivilous. here is an apt descripting of what a gentleman is (according to the Victirian/Edwardian era [A pilfered this from some site or other where there were no notices about copyrite and the site owner never replied to my request to use this])):


The Qualities of a Gentleman

He acts kindly from the impulse of his kind heart.

He is brave, because, with a conscience void of offence, he has nothing to fear.

He is never embarrassed, for he respects himself and is profoundly conscious of right intentions.
He keeps his honor unstained, and to retain the good opinion of others he neglects no civility.

He respects even the prejudices of men whom he believes are honest.

He opposes without bitterness and yields without admitting defeat.

He is never arrogant, never weak.

He bears himself with dignity, but never haughtily.

Too wise to despise trifles, he is too noble to be mastered by them.

To superiors he is respectful without servility; to equals courteous; to inferiors’ kind.

He carries himself with grace in all places, is easy but never familiar, genteel without affection.

He unites gentleness of manner with firmness of mind.

He commands with mild authority, and asks favors with grace and assurance.

I guess with a little polishing of the rough edges of they are there most Doms or Masters could mannage that without breaking into a sweat. Probably need to keep a fast right hook in check at times though. I can guarantee you that in most cases if a man issues a lout a challange (slapping the ijit's face with a glove and tossing the glove at the ijit's feet) for a Gentlemanly Duel at first light, and has a male friend call on the ijit that day to make the arangements and offer choice of dueling weapon that even if the ijit doesn't take it seriously he will start to get worried and probvable turn up our of curiosity.. Immagine his face when he is offered a chouce of rapiers suitable sharp? There is nothing so delightfully fragrent as the odour of fresh shit running down some wanker's leg when he realises you are deadly serious.....




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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/27/2006 11:07:46 AM   
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What does it say, about someone I need to rescue?


What does it say about somebody who is drowning or starving and you happen by and feel a need to rescue them? That they were in peril, in one situation mortal peril and you chose at that moment for your own reasons to exercise compassion. Nothing more or left. You could argue the this analogy doesn't extend to emotional situations, but I don't see it that way.

I do think that in all situations in which a resuce is asked for, one needs to determine two things (1) whether the person is in genuine peril or not and (2) whether one has the ability--including any emotional resources that may be required as well as little things like knowing how to swim yourself!--to effect such a rescue.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/27/2006 11:53:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		As yet another knight, I feel better after I've helped someone. I strive to get people to help themselves, having ended up on the streets myself and pulled myself back out of it I know that nothing is beyond the reach of someone who is motivated. When anyone comes to me for help, I provide them with the motivation to help themselves and I sometimes just tag along as a helper/consultant. I have never felt used by those whom I help and I try my hardest to not make them dependant on me. This does extend to my style of D/s, I know that odds are good that the relationship won't last more than a couple years so while striving to make it last I also try to ensure that we both come out of it for the better.

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/29/2006 11:42:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		All of this talk Knight talk brings to mind something that someone said to me long ago and I've applied to my own life.
 
He said simply " I can help you fight your battles, but I can not save you from yourself"

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RE: Knight in Shining Armor - 8/30/2006 5:34:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I used to pride myself on being a white knight, on being there to help people in whatever capacity I could. Then after encountering nothing but the crushing burdens others carry, constantly it seems like, I came to realize that you cannot rescue the world. If you try, it will only destroy you in the end as the wieght becomes too much to bear. An endless parade of emotional blackholes in this lifestyle will do it to you. A very, very dear person (the Mistress who currently has me enthralled like no one ever has before) came into my life unexpectedly and basically gave me a choice: Either get rid of all the people who were sucking me dry and making my personal life and career life suffer and be with her, or get packing and stay with those emotional leaches who took up the majority of my time everyday. Needless to say, tough choices were made and in one night I said goodbye to over 30 people both online and off who had nothing positive to contribute.

After it was all said and done, I came to realize that my inner white knight was nothing more than my jailor and now I prefer to consider myself simply a grey knight who chooses his battles carefully.

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"Anonymity is synonymous with longevity."
Faethor Ferenczy

"I wish I had an angel
For one moment of love
I wish I had your angel tonight"
Nightwish - Wish I had an Angel Tonight

(in reply to BlueHnS)
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