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FelinePersuasion -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/17/2006 5:37:06 PM)

I've been w/ith a mate who didn't meet my needs, couldn't and wouldn't give me what I needed emotionally and I didn't cheat.  I got his permission to do everything I did with others.

And if I didnt have his permisssion I sure wouldn't cheat anyway. I would have and eventually did leave joe cause he wouldn't meet my needs and our relationship was more pain than good on a very regular basis.

we were not married though, we'd just been commited to each other for 4 years.

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

I also know that until someone has been in a situation where they see absolutely no light at the end of the tunnel, so to speak, in their relationship w/ a spouse, that they cannot truly know how great a temptation to "cheat" can be, or how sensible it seems as an option. 





FelinePersuasion -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/17/2006 5:41:24 PM)

Susan there is a GIANT HUGE differnce between that story and the mans wife and a man who's wife is healthy alive and well and he chooses to see others cause his wife won't talk dirty to him or allow him to wear panties or any number of reasons why men cheat on their wives.

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

There's a guy who lives down the street from me and his wife has been in a mental institution w/schizophrenia for the past twenty or so years.




Crake -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/17/2006 11:40:25 PM)

right, because once people get married they never grow at different rates or change at all....




Crake -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/17/2006 11:47:49 PM)

very black and white thinking.
gives you the illusion you are in control, does it?

to me a sexy liar is more attractive than a self-righteous prig.




mons -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 1:13:49 AM)

greetings
 
i find men who do this a animal they have no thought of anything but bdsm. they know there wives know it is horrible to me. i would be so hurt beyond words if someone did this to me. they will never leave there wives and any woman who falls in love would want this. do i think they are dishonest yes liars yes and cheat.  i would never do it i know and seen there are to many man here and all over who are single and that is the best kind
 
mons [&:]




darkinshadows -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 4:54:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

Susan there is a GIANT HUGE differnce between that story and the mans wife and a man who's wife is healthy alive and well and he chooses to see others cause his wife won't talk dirty to him or allow him to wear panties or any number of reasons why men cheat on their wives.

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO

There's a guy who lives down the street from me and his wife has been in a mental institution w/schizophrenia for the past twenty or so years.


There isnt a huge difference Feline... susan is giving you an example of why it isnt wise not healthy to colour everyone who 'cheats' with the same brush.
 
Peace and Rapture




darkinshadows -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 4:56:48 AM)


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I guess I am one of those people who thinks you should be compatible before you get married to the other person.

Most people are compatable when they enter any LTR... but people change and so do feelings.  To ignore that fact is scarey.
 
Peace and Rapture




MistressSophia -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 5:43:42 AM)

I find very few people outside this life style understand us or the desires we have.  Or are willing to understand..What of the man or wife for that matter, that has D/S feelings and needs. but puts them aside because they have fallen in love with someone they think they can love more then what they are or need. What of the man or wife that tries to share these feelings with the person that should love them the most, only to be put down or shamed for their needs. Isn't lying about oneself or needs a form or cheating? (cheating oneself) out of being honest.. What of the man or wife that just needs the d/s side filled without sex. wanting to be theirself ,without damaging their family or private life..Aren't we all in this life  to fill those dark need. Don't we seek it, because here we can be who we are without judgement? Are we all so clean and pure we can point fingers at others? I think not. No one is telling anyone to accept anothers weakness. But you sure as hell don't have a right to judge anyone.Because one believes one way ,and another  a different way doesn't make one more right then the other!  Just my 4 cents...




LadyJulieAnn -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 6:03:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: darkinshadows


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I guess I am one of those people who thinks you should be compatible before you get married to the other person.

Most people are compatable when they enter any LTR... but people change and so do feelings.  To ignore that fact is scarey.
 
Peace and Rapture



To ignore that fact is indeed scary.  What I find a lot of people do is discover they have changed, and then continue to act like things are ok, while being miserable.  Rather than change their situation to suit their new ideas and feelings, they continue to "play" house and seek other things behind their partner's back.

Be well,
Julie




mnottertail -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 6:22:45 AM)

I am with LJA.

The betrayal of interpersonal relations in this fashion is deplorable.

If it is so goddamn right to do so, do not cower behind the couch, but stand and shout it from the rooftops, repleat with mitigations and addenendums.

Ron 




julietsierra -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 6:32:34 AM)

I am attracted to men, regardless of their marital status. Someone isn't more or less attractive to me based on whether they're single or not.

How I comport myself around an attractive man who is married and cheating on his wife is much less about him than it is about the level of integrity I hold myself to.

juliet




darkinshadows -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 7:33:03 AM)

I understand your dislike, Ron...
 
But some people find swearing morally and personally wrong.  That those who do such are ugly and unattractive.
Would that stop you speaking expletives?
Is it up to them to judge you?
 
Don't like - don't do it.  Fair enough.  But name calling and judgements when you don't know a person or the whole story is ugly and unattractive in itself.
 
Peace and Rapture




littleone35 -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 8:07:03 AM)

I was reading this thread and i had a thought not really an opnion just a thought.  Some people ( i am not one of them) find married men and women attractive because they are married thus "safe".  Anyone else ever hear this?

Matt's littleone




onestandingstill -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 9:07:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littleone35

I was reading this thread and i had a thought not really an opinion just a thought.  Some people ( i am not one of them) find married men and women attractive because they are married thus "safe".  Anyone else ever hear this?

Matt's littleone

Choosing a sexual partner with a no strings approach does indeed give great comfort to some. If you're being honest about not wanting a commitment I think cheaters or non-cheaters will still have basically the same response toward your request in general. I just feel like you could have that same freedom with someone who was honest and not willingly risking someone else's heart, trust, and hapiness in the process.
Things you willingly undertake in darkness will be shown in the light one day. I just don't need any monsters like this one in my closet to come bite me when someone shines the flashlight in my corner.
Suzanne




littleone35 -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 9:15:29 AM)

Suzanne  i hope that was a general you and you were not specifically talking about me.

Matt's littleome




TNstepsout -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 9:22:41 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littleone35

I was reading this thread and i had a thought not really an opnion just a thought.  Some people ( i am not one of them) find married men and women attractive because they are married thus "safe".  Anyone else ever hear this?

Matt's littleone


Safe in what way? Strange, I see cheaters as completely the opposite. Curious




onestandingstill -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 9:49:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littleone35

Suzanne  i hope that was a general you and you were not specifically talking about me.

Matt's littleome

LOL, of course it was a general statement.  I don't even know you. Your words just prompted my point of view. Not directed at you specifically I promise.
Suzanne




FelinePersuasion -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 3:40:19 PM)

darkinshadows, Finding someone else because your mate is essentialy brain dead or is mentally compromised to such a point as not knowing you, who they are, or what day it is, is too  a huge diffrence than finding someone else because your wife who is healthy alive and mentally capable, won't fill your sexual needs.




julietsierra -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/18/2006 8:57:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion

darkinshadows, Finding someone else because your mate is essentialy brain dead or is mentally compromised to such a point as not knowing you, who they are, or what day it is, is too  a huge diffrence than finding someone else because your wife who is healthy alive and mentally capable, won't fill your sexual needs.


Ok...so, here's where things shift a bit for me. According to some psychological models, sexual fulfillment is right up there on the scale of needs along with safety, shelter and food. Denying one's self sexual fulfillment because one's spouse REFUSES is just as bad as cheating to get these needs met. And, I have to ask, what is more deplorable? The fact that he's out there doing things with others, or the fact that he wasn't honest about what he was doing.

In my opinion and experience, it's the lack of honesty that tears people apart. When men cheat, they deny their wives the simple respect of being able to choose her way of life knowing all the facts. People really do need to say what they mean and mean what they say, and they need to establish a precedent in their marriages that make discussion of these things possible.

When a man goes into a relationship and marries, only to find his  wife in short order, disinterested in him sexually, things should be stated immediately that if the situation doesn't change, he's going to go outside to get what he needs. This can be interpreted as an ultimatum. However, it can also be a truth, so that both parties know and understand and can choose what's at stake.

I know men who've done this. They've maintained their marriages, raised their children, kept up their end of the marriage bargain. When these men became involved in D/s, the way they'd structured their lives allowed them to never hide what they do. They've packed their toybag, kissed their wives and headed out the door free of guilt and secure in the fact that they are not cheating. Their wives have had the choice - with all the cards on the table - to join their husbands, understand their needs and give them the freedom to get those needs met, or leave. Respect for both parties is maintained.

Perhaps it's not the cheating that's the difficulty, but the lying.

Cheating is simply not smart. In the end, if someone's going to risk everything to cheat, they just should risk everything to tell their spouses exactly what they mean and to mean exactly what they've said. It saves a LOT of heartache that is simply not necessary.

Oh yea... and women cheat too, so the shoe can be, and often is, on the other foot, but the fit remains the same.

juliet




talltxsub -> RE: Attractive married men cheating on their wives... (8/19/2006 6:59:08 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressSophia

I find very few people outside this life style understand us or the desires we have.  Or are willing to understand..What of the man or wife for that matter, that has D/S feelings and needs. but puts them aside because they have fallen in love with someone they think they can love more then what they are or need. What of the man or wife that tries to share these feelings with the person that should love them the most, only to be put down or shamed for their needs. Isn't lying about oneself or needs a form or cheating? (cheating oneself) out of being honest.. What of the man or wife that just needs the d/s side filled without sex. wanting to be theirself ,without damaging their family or private life..Aren't we all in this life  to fill those dark need. Don't we seek it, because here we can be who we are without judgement? Are we all so clean and pure we can point fingers at others? I think not. No one is telling anyone to accept anothers weakness. But you sure as hell don't have a right to judge anyone.Because one believes one way ,and another  a different way doesn't make one more right then the other!  Just my 4 cents...


Wonderfully said, Ma'am.  I do find it interesting that in this "accept anything" world of ours, this seems to be the one taboo.




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