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The OP admits it's an ethical issue, not primarily a health based one. Ethics=beliefs=belief systems= religious. Food and religion are connected in many ways. This is just one more. Would you like me to start listing dietary restrictions of major religions?
I never said that food and religious issues arent linked... I said that you cannot compare the two. They are there own issues. Your little chart proves nothing. So the OP has a ethical reason... that isnt religious. And if you read the OP and take the topic as a whole, you will see that it isn't really about the ethics... it is about whether or not to insist her slave obey her. Do not try and sit there and tell me she isn't considering all outcomes - she obviously cares for her boy - and don't try and make it a force issue. Things change - as I said in another thread - people have sudden revelations all the time - you can't expect to just sign a contract and agree limits at the start of a relationship and just think thats that... nothing is ever gonna change. Because if thats how your relationship works or you expect it to work - I have news for you. It is going to become stagnant pretty damned fast. Also note. We are discussing a dominant/slave relationship here. If you cannot understand that concept then don't bother answering because your point of view will not meld with this kind of agreement.
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Where did I not distinguish between vegetarianism and veganism? I do know the difference, but most of the time, it's a distinction without a difference.
In your post. (number 29) You spoke about vegans, not vegetarianism in your post. You also stated.
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Even chimps eat meat when they can get it.
If that is your reasons why humans are omnivores, then thats a poor example. Chimps also rape the females in their tribe. Chimps also commit regular acts of canniblism. Does that mean we humans must all be rapists by nature - and also able to commit canniblism without negative outcomes? Humans were primarily fruit eaters. During later devolpment they ate meat when it was available to them - if they found it - there is no evidence that human ancestors killed and became hunter- gatherers until much later in evolutionary history.. I challenge you to give any animal something that isnt on their food chain and they will consume it if they are on a survival mode. Canine teeth are not relevant to the discussion of meat vs plant. Human canines are smaller than they would be if meat was the main and primary source of nutrition. Humans have no claws. They sweat through pores. The stomach acid is not capable of disolving raw meat in a continous manner. We have saliva glads that are far advanced. We have flat rear molars. Human ancestors were primarily tree dwelling, not ground hunters and only began foragers when we evolved down from the trees. I never said that humans were not omnivores ever, but primarily - in the beginning... they werent even herbivores, but frubivores. quote:
There are good arguments that meat eating became a requirement for the human race when his brain started to expand. Or that his brain started to expand because he was able to eat more meat than his ancestors. And? That doesn't prove that humans were originally omnivores or even carnivores. It just shows they evolved into being such. Peace and Rapture
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