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ORIGINAL: BrutalAntipathy

I fear that you missed my point entirely. My point was that Paul contradicts Yeshuah.

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

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ORIGINAL: twicehappy

I am not a Christian but didn't Jesus condense the commandments to one?

LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
 
"WHY IS THERE ENOUGH RELIGION IN THE WORLD TO INCITE WAR BUT NOT TOLERANCE?". 
A quote from one of my favorite tee shirts.

I do not think this has anything to do with love.  Paul never taught to not love anyone.  He taught that people that followed the Roman emperors example would not inherit the kingdom of Heaven.  I see nothing wrong with loving them as we love ourselves.  Two completely different concepts from what I can see. 

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

However, we are also instructed not to test God's grace by continually sinning.  You conveniently left that part out.  The point is this.  It is not impossible for a homosexual to enter Heaven, but he must know that he needs to turn his back on what he is doing and walk the straight and narrow again.

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ORIGINAL: BrutalAntipathy 

Excellent point, twicehappy. And Yeshuah frequently associated with sinners, the unclean, prostitutes and the like. Oh, but I forgot... Follow the teachings of Paul, not Yeshuah! And Paul certainly does say to avoid such bad people. (1 Cor 5:11). And as we have already seen, it is necessary to ignore Yeshuah over Paul whenever it is convenient to justify your intolerance. 
 
 Oh, geez, wait... isn't that yet another place where the two contradict? But you are always free to agree to disagree with obvious, concrete facts, just like opinions!

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

So he thinks that fags are sinners eh?

Big deal, he has his own personal belief and I don't see you changing it. However, to keep it from being an over heated debate, reply to him with a couple of these statements.

1. So you don't think homosexuality is right. Well, they not complaining about christianity being wrong. Can you give them the same respect?

2. So you don't want to be gay. That's fine, you don't have to be. No one is trying to make you gay so why would you try to make anyone straight?

3. Christians where once persicuted for there beliefs and they did not like it. Now, as a Christian and knowing the Golden Rule, why would you wish to persicute others for having a different belief system?

4. So there are people out there who are homosexual. What's the big deal? What are they doing to you? Why should you care so much as to go out of your way to make there lives a living hell? It's not doing anyone any good. If God really wants something done about it, he has this thing called lightening to hit people with. Rather than trying to play God, just let go and let God handle it. 

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ORIGINAL: herwhim

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ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

So he thinks that fags are sinners eh?

Big deal, he has his own personal belief and I don't see you changing it. However, to keep it from being an over heated debate, reply to him with a couple of these statements.

1. So you don't think homosexuality is right. Well, they not complaining about christianity being wrong. Can you give them the same respect?

2. So you don't want to be gay. That's fine, you don't have to be. No one is trying to make you gay so why would you try to make anyone straight?

3. Christians where once persicuted for there beliefs and they did not like it. Now, as a Christian and knowing the Golden Rule, why would you wish to persicute others for having a different belief system?

4. So there are people out there who are homosexual. What's the big deal? What are they doing to you? Why should you care so much as to go out of your way to make there lives a living hell? It's not doing anyone any good. If God really wants something done about it, he has this thing called lightening to hit people with. Rather than trying to play God, just let go and let God handle it. 

1. Goddamned liberal gays are always railing against Christianity. So are the Muslims, scientists, atheists, Socialists, Jews, and Martians. This gives me all the excuse I need to hate them all. It's in the Bible. I think they're called Babylonians or something in there, but they all look alike and are stealing all our good jobs.

2. I want to make others straight to save them from the eternal sulphury fires of Hell. When the firemen tried to save people from burning on 9/11, they got movies made about their heroism; when I do it, I'm a homophobe. Talk about your double standards.

3. Because we're right, whereas they're wrong. That's why it's okay for us to persecute whereas they were heretics and needed to be burned at the stake/crusaded against/molested in the confessional.

4. God isn't using lightning, he's using AIDS. But the lousy heathen scientists (these are the same people inventing the fiction that is evolution, by the way) have found effective treatments. That's why he sent Hurricane Katrina to punish the fruits and the scientists. Don't you morons even read the paper anymore? Don't be doubting God's wrath -- the Lord had Barbaro in second in his Derby trifecta, and look what how he handled that. Where was I? Oh, right -- gay people killed Jesus and JonBenet, so that's why it's okay to hate them.