RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR?

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yourMissTress -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 11:42:22 AM)
mbmn, thank you for your response and an excellent example.

yourMissTress -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 11:44:38 AM)
Mercnbeth, thank you again for responding and for clarifying your point.

yourMissTress -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 11:46:29 AM)
GoddessDustyGold, thank you for your response. I promise that the next time I do that scene I will be sure to give you plenty of advance notice.

Slipstreme -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 11:54:50 AM)
I'm not generally squicked by seeing much of anything. So I could probably watch anything as long as it is consentual. Now participation is a different story. There are lines I won't cross. If I see danger though, I'd probably report it. Thing is, I am a bit of a greenhorn, so there are some things I might miss.

Viper001 -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 11:58:46 AM)
quote: Outside of death and those not meeting the age requirement for the ride, I don't think anyone's personal choice of activity "gos too far". Respect is always essential to any personal interaction. Whether that interaction is at a semi-public club, personal residence, or public; respect for others should always be part of the equation. Permission should be obtained from the club's proprietor if you were planing on doing something "outside the norm" for the club. At a private residence it's even more important. Its an obligation of the guests to not do anything that disrespects the person or location. etc. <snip> Mr Merc, having you read my mind is just skeeeeeeeery. Watching you take all these convoluted thoughts and present them a logical, concise manner is awesome. Respectfully, RFJM btw, if you see us wandering around FF, wave howdy [:D]

onestandingstill -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 12:04:53 PM)
I of course would not stand by while any critter, young ones, or dead people were involved as they can't give consent. Human sacrifice or murder would not be tolerated in my presence either. On these things I not only would leave, but very possibly I'd call the authorities. I also would not be comfortable being in a room where mystical ceremonies are part of the scene as it's against my Christian faith. Other than those things as long as both people involved are consenting without coercion of some heavy sort involved I say go for what you like with me in the room or not. I actually have been in the presence of 3 different scenes that scared the bejesus out of me just in their nature. My fear & concern of the suffrage of the sub was huge. Funny thing is if the sub asked for, and wanted it, and liked it I'm not sure why the heavy extreme scenes freaked me out and terrified me so bad. I'm guessing it's because I imposed myself into that scene and knew I could not have taken or enjoyed it myself. There's probably way more I'd not be into watching because they'd gross me out, or flip me out, but not that would be too far. Suzanne

Bearlee -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 2:19:01 PM)
Ohhhhhh uhhhhhhhhhh ... yeah, Roman showers would be out for me too. I'm not a huge fan of vomit; even watching those deep-throat clips where the girl brings up a bit of bile and keeps on goin pretty much squicks me. Still... I'd just move on, I think; unless it was out & out Roman and the smell wafted throughout the whole room. I'm lible to urp, myself...in that case! ...but...that's just me! LOL

Slipstreme -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 2:21:23 PM)
I don't really care if people vomit around me. I used to point and laugh when my brother did it when he was feeling sick. I know, it was mean, and he usually got me back for it by passing whatever germ he had along my way.

Arpig -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 3:19:44 PM)
quote: Is there a fetish (let's assume and not list the generally accepted taboo 3 or 4) that you just couldn't ever witness? Is there a fetish that would make your blood boil if you were faced with it? No

sharainks -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 3:45:11 PM)
For me it would be (and has been) people who play in public, especially those who give demos, when they obviously don't have a clue about how to do something safely. Usually people come along and try to "help" them by showing them how to do it safely and they continue to brush off all offers to teach them or help them understand with the attitude that they are beyond needing any information from anyone. I have yet to say anything unpleasant but it does make my blood boil, and I do walk off.

KnightofMists -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 4:42:12 PM)
My consent stops when consent stops in their scene.... there isn't anything I have seen that caused me to step back... maybe someday it might occur... and then again maybe not.

Amaros -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 6:58:35 PM)
Disregard of personal safety pisses me off in any context, inexperience or indifference - leaving a person hooked up to a penetration device unattended, qualifies as an example of psychopathic indifference. I think that's what safe words are for, but even a sub can get too carried away I think. Next would probobly be the bad energy thing LA mentioned, to me it usually signals something bad is about to happen, physical or psychological damage to somebody. Needles, blood, edge play, or scat just don't do anything for me, and would tend also to fall under the personal safety umbrella - I've taken STD precaution to fetish levels.

maybemaybenot -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 9:39:03 PM)
going off topic for a second.... Nice new pic, Arpig [:D] And your kitty too ! mbmbn we now return you to your regularly scheduled program

WhipTheHip -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/25/2006 10:41:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yourMissTress When does a fetish go too far? When does another's right to express their sexuality/fetish stop and your right to consent begin? I'm not talking about out in the general public, I'm talking about behind the closed doors of a private (not in a private home), members and their guests only, dungeon. Is there a fetish (let's assume and not list the generally accepted taboo 3 or 4) that you just couldn't ever witness? Is there a fetish that would make your blood boil if you were faced with it? I wouldn't watch needle play, anything that draws blood, scat, anything that causes permanent damage or scar tissue. In my estimation that is not sane, not just for bdsm but any other activity. This is my personal opinion, and I don't ask others to accept my opinion. I find naked guys a turn-off for other reasons,.

SusanofO -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/26/2006 1:31:36 AM)
I doubt if I'd appreciate watching someone being punched, slugged or kicked really hard (or even not that hard). To me, it's just brutal. Face slapping really hard is something I even find hard to watch - for some reason even more if it's a man doing it to a girl, but the punching or kicking, even if it's a female doing it to a man. I just dont like it, and I usually end up feeling like someone else should intervene and try to stop it (even if that someone has to be me). I don't like watching things like "All- Star Wrestling" on television, either. - Susan

Wolfie648 -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/26/2006 2:17:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yourMissTress When does a fetish go too far? When you or the local law catching you do it decides it does. quote: When does another's right to express their sexuality/fetish stop and your right to consent begin? As a dom (owner really but that's another conversation) (and judging by your name you are a domme) I don't consent to anything from my sub(s)/slave(s) (plural wouldn't that be nice ;-). They consent I control. quote: I'm not talking about out in the general public, I'm talking about behind the closed doors of a private (not in a private home), members and their guests only, dungeon. Is there a fetish (let's assume and not list the generally accepted taboo 3 or 4) that you just couldn't ever witness? Is there a fetish that would make your blood boil if you were faced with it? Couldn't ever witness? I can witness anything. It doesn't mean I would choose to, want to, like to, or agree with the events at hand. Public or otherwise. Is there fetish that would make my blood boil to witness? Yes absolutely. And that would be my polite reply. D (owner of j)

Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/26/2006 6:01:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: yourMissTress When does a fetish go too far? When does another's right to express their sexuality/fetish stop and your right to consent begin? My right to consent is at the very beginning, and continues forever. I can retract it at any point i like. The nano second i do that, my partners right to express themselves in my presence, ceases immediately. So providing all parties are consentual. Anything goes. I'm not talking about out in the general public, I'm talking about behind the closed doors of a private (not in a private home), members and their guests only, dungeon. The same as above. Is there a fetish (let's assume and not list the generally accepted taboo 3 or 4) that you just couldn't ever witness? Is there a fetish that would make your blood boil if you were faced with it? There are many id rather not indulge in myself. But witness? Ive not witnessed much. Not being a frequent clubber and never a private party. But from a DVD viewing, i know i would find kicking difficult to watch. That seems 'too far' on the violence side to me. Yet, whipping and drawing blood wouldnt. So horses for courses. Anyone that tried to kick me, would make my blood boil. littleone

WhipTheHip -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/26/2006 6:26:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SusanofO I doubt if I'd appreciate watching someone being punched, slugged or kicked really hard (or even not that hard). To me, it's just brutal. Face slapping really hard is something I even find hard to watch - for some reason even more if it's a man doing it to a girl, but the punching or kicking, even if it's a female doing it to a man. I just dont like it, and I usually end up feeling like someone else should intervene and try to stop it (even if that someone has to be me). I don't like watching things like "All- Star Wrestling" on television, either. - Susan Ditto. I don't like watching wrestling on TV for other reasons. Mainly, it is just way too silly.

losttreasure -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/26/2006 8:23:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin I just knew you were gonna do this....you sadist!!! Well I should first say that I realize that what I am about to say is about me and not about the rightness or wrongness of it. I have a very difficult time watching scenes that involve male submissives. Usually I can get through them but there have been times that I have just walked away and had the images haunt me for some time after. It seems to happen especially when the male involved is the type of man that I would normally view as very masculine and not so much if the male is more effeminate. I know it's irrational really..but in my world men are the "rocks" and it just turns my world upside down to see a man that I would normally view as such reduced to tears and begging. I find that I just can't watch it and sometimes I even get perturbed with the Domme for taking him there. As I said....I know it's irrational and it's definitely an issue that is a personal one for me....so please don't take offense at it. I would be the same way, Mist.

bandit25 -> RE: Where lies the line of TOO FAR? (8/26/2006 8:30:08 AM)
One thing I can't watch is someone's breasts being whipped or slapped or whatever. Yes, it does affect me. To me (and only to me) it strikes at the core of my being a woman.

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