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antidepressent meds


these are crazy pills, 1 out of 100 on them
  15% (3)
everyone is on them, no big deal
  26% (5)
try these and you are marked for life
  10% (2)
3 out 10 people are on them
  47% (9)


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antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 3:17:30 PM   
pahunkboy


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Status: offline 		ok- im pulling my hair out- convincing a loved one they NEED to be on med

what is public perception of meds such as prozak, paxil, effexxor, welbutrin, lexipro,  antidepressent meds.

if seritonin isnt getting to the brain in proper amounts, and it is a solid 10 months, i dont think one snaps out of it.

comments ??? experiences? perceptions?? ideas ???

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 3:27:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm on prozac.......just went through a divorce after being married for 30 yrs, have an 18 yr old son living with me, have to support him and myself, with not much money coming in....so yea, I needed it............and its helped me alot...so there!..LOL

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 3:33:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are different types of anti-depressants and the side-effects are wide-ranging.  Some are difficult to "quit."  There isn't an addiction, but your body definitely has a reaction to withdrawal.  The effects of effexor withdrawal, for example, are documented by users.  Having a medical history of being treated for a mood disorder can "mark" you when you try to obtain life or disability insurance (rates, amount of coverage). 

Many feel that medication + therapy (counseling) is a preferred approach.

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 3:45:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is very true, Panhunkboy. This is a physical problem as well as mental.  I personally take Zoloft. My doctor prescribed me them gradually  25mg, then 50mg, then 100mg. Still not feeling I was myself, I seeked professional help. They upped my dose to 150mg and I've been on them for 4 years. I am enjoying life and have had many great days since.  I will be on them the rest of my life but that doesn't mean everyone else is. In my situation, it is necessary.

The best advice for your stubborn loved one is to simply ask him/her to take the test. If she/he passes, then you may need to look elsewhere for the reason. On the zoloft site you can have him/her take a test or see a personal physician.

May this help you help your loved one. Don't give up on that person because it can become life or death fast.

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 3:51:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		have been on all the ones you name with varing degrees of success and failure.

Lexipro is my current attempt....i take my antidepressants religiously, but i dont know if i could honestly say the work.  Sometimes i think they do, other times I know they dont. Hell for all i know they could be sugar pills.

i do know nothing can or will help my mind right now. its just too fucked up with all that has happened.

My xanax does work its tricks for my anxiety condition when i allow myself to actually take them and if i did as prescribed i would more than likey to be better off. i wont take them like I am supposed to because of the chance of a hard addiction which is silly because i have no desire to be addicted.

Everyone pardon my posts and stuff today....but I am having such a hard time right now, and i feel so fucking alone

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 3:54:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Depression is an illness, no different than diabeties.  If you were diabetic and needed insulin you would take it daily.  For some depression is a chemical inbalance where there is not enough of something produced, zoloft increases the seritonin. 

The problem is mental illness has a stigma attached and it is not something many are comfortable speaking about or admitting to.  However it is an illness nothing to be ashamed of.

I have been on zoloft for a number of years now.  As I said in another post it makes me feel like me 365 days of the year.  Before zoloft I was a rollar coaster of moods rages and dark clouds.  I know mine is hormonally related however it was lasting longer and longer each month until I had a week or less of good days before the dark cloud dropped again.

It is something that needs to be properly assessed and only prescribed by a MD.  Blood work needs to be followed up on to ensure all is good.

If you friend wants to talk to someone with personal experience with depression feel free to have him/her contact me.

Good luck with your friend. 

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:00:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		How much time have you got? I discovered I needed them over 25 year ago, and have been taking them in one form or another, ever since. And an unusually high dose, too. I have "biological" depression. It's endemic. Quite a few of my relatives deal with this as well. It's not related to anything that may or may not be happening to me in the "real world", and is just part of the way my body works. I have to take them, or I can become suicidal very quickly.

It took me about 4 years to finally find an anti-depressant that works for me. Then, in my twenties, I also sought (and found) one that does that and also does not eliminate my sex drive. The one I take (Serzone) has almost no side effects, which rocks. Needless to say, consuming alcoholic beverages is out of the question for me.

If I didn't take them, I'd be done for. I already know this through bitter experience. I am not willing to give them up, nor should that (I believe) make any difference to a prospective Dominant. One time, one of them insisted I "didn't need them" (without hardly knowing me, to boot) and I dropped him like a hot potato. Any other prospective Dominant who suggests this to me,will also suffer a similar fate.

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:03:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		some good replies here. i thank you so much on sharing.  i should have mentioned i am on effexxor. i tried paxil, welbutrin, amitripilyn, prosak,
but in my case effexxor is what works.

i did get as far as getting this loved one to a dr. he had the blood work- anything physical is ruled out.

if i lecture him, i will be tuned out.  he tried lexipro and effexxor, with bad results.    so we got that far.

we are coming up on a year of this bouncing ball thing.  [it is my brother] [he doent even take aspirin when he has a headache....he is very against pills.]

before effexure the ringing phone of the neighbor botherred me. now im "whateverr."    i took myself off the med for 2 mos. i still needed it- so went back on it.

my brother is quite use to be "the man".   if i loose his trust it is gone. so i cant jeopardise that.

anyhow, it is interesting to see how fast your replies came in on this topic.

you guys are amazing!  *smiles*  :-D

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:07:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a 16 yr old who has been sucidial for the past five years , we have tried just about all the meds you named and finally found a balance between prozac and something that starts with an s. Professional help is needed as well getting the meds from your regular dr without getting to the root of the problem does not fix it. My daughter suffers from ptsd, and depression life has been hell but we finally see the light, you cannot make them seek help or take the meds they have to do it themselves. And a threapist she/he connects with is very important.

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:17:32 PM   
SavageFaerie


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Status: offline 		its funny Serezone and effexor both totally sent me the other direction. So much depends on one individual body and brain.

i had the worst possible reaction to the two above. My sister had the same exact reaction to effexor

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:19:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have had reoccuring bio-chemical depression since adolescents kicked in.  Like bi-polar without the mania.  I know for a fact that I would not be having my 50th birthday next week if it were not for medication. (I am not being dramatic)

I don't have issues that need to be resolved ... I have chemicals that need to be balanced.  Depression can be so sneaky.  The changes can be subtle that you consider them to be in the normal range ... until ... the symptoms are controling your life and how you react to things

Oh, and those meds made menopause a breeze.

Search the internet for ... depression self diagnose symptoms.   Email the questions to your brother.  Let him come to his own conclusion and realize that you will be there to help them every step of the way.  Even if that means making the appointment and driving him to the doctor.     His life could depend upon it. Also realize the guilt you will feel if he should harm himself and you know that stronger action would have avoided that situation.

============== just copy and paste your symptoms onto an email and print it out for the doctor http://www.med.nyu.edu/psych/screens/depres.html http://www.depression-screening.org/screeningtest/screeningtest.htm http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/8271/9025/197543.html?d=dmtMHSurvey&screen=2 http://www.lexapro.com/english/about_depression/self_screener.aspx http://www.lexapro.com/english/understanding_depression/screener.aspx?PlacementGUID=A280E53A-1761-42B3-96DB-98AC179A0E35  

Have your brother answer the questions and print everything out.  Give the document to the doctor.  This way nothing will be forgotten, mimimized or overlooked.  The doctor will have a clear picture of what is happening and going on with your brother.  That same document, once placed in medical records, can be a gauge to his progress.  I use this process with all the ladies I mentor.  The doctor is very much appreciative.

Sending good thoughts of recovery to your brother



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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:27:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThatLilBrat



============== just copy and paste your symptoms onto an email and print it out for the doctor http://www.med.nyu.edu/psych/screens/depres.html http://www.depression-screening.org/screeningtest/screeningtest.htm http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/8271/9025/197543.html?d=dmtMHSurvey&screen=2 http://www.lexapro.com/english/about_depression/self_screener.aspx http://www.lexapro.com/english/understanding_depression/screener.aspx?PlacementGUID=A280E53A-1761-42B3-96DB-98AC179A0E35  

Have your brother answer the questions and print everything out.  Give the document to the doctor.  ....
Sending good thoughts of recovery to your brother




perfect!!!   it is emailed to him as well as my sister- who lives closer to him and sees him real time.

he can realize the variety of sources for this info. thanks!!!!

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:27:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Me, I am bipolar. When I was first diagnosed, it was incorretly and I was put on antidepressants.  That pretty much meant Manic all the time. NOT FUN.  After I didnt bother sleeping for 7 days, since I ahd so many important things to do to waste hours on sleep, I stopped eatting becasue it took to long and I started hallucinating crosshairs when I played pool so that I oculd win faster... I was dragged back tot he shrink and rediagnosed.
After several years on mod stabalizers, and anti depressants, AND meds for panic disorder... I just quit them all. Cold turkey.  So far, its ben 4 years and I am holding myself together pretty well. It isnt always easy, but I just have to remember back to my marraige, when the meds made everyting bearable.  I would never have stayed with him had I not been medicated. 
They work wonders for some, and fail completely for others.  Unfortuantely, I am not a winnig situation. 

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:29:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a question how will all these drugs affect the kids she may have one day? has anyone gone through that?. I am sorry did not mean to imply that all chemical imbalances are related to a root problem.






































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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 4:31:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I worry about Meds.  I understand that some people need them, but what bothers me i guess is they only fix the symptoms, not the problem....they don't cure the problem.   I will also say that i don't know a great deal about anti-depressannt Medication.  I do know quite a few people on them, i guess the way i feel just stems from a few things:

1.  When my former husband and i were going through a divorce, he asked to go to counseling, i said i would.  The whole session(s) turned around to be all about me, all about how screwed up i must be.  The Doc said he wanted to prescribe anti-depressants for me to see if it would even me out.  I was fine, i was just going through a fucking divorce...so YEAH!  i was not always in a great frame of mind.  I walked out and never went back.

2.  I also may have a bit of a pill phobia.  I am a recovering drug addict for over 20 years.  I tend to shy away from Tylenol even.

For the people that are on any type of Meds, long or short term, i do sincerely hope they are helping.  I'm just a bit jitterish when it comes to Meds.

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 5:00:38 PM   
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Your are so right meds do only fix symptoms and that is just sometimes.
When i was in VA I went to a therepist which I had always previously rejected.
I miss that young woman so much sometimes. i need to find a new one when I get totally moved and settled. Most of my stuff is deep rooted and between things said and unsaid, I dont  think i have ever had a true diagnosis.  i am beginnig to thing alot of it is PTSD from my last marriage...again i could be wrong.

I do know that within the last two months i have been making dramatic changes in my life and am determined to be fully functional....i also know it will take time and cant happen overnight, although i got one hell of a shove this past week.

just my thoughts as usual


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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 5:20:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Welbutrin saved my life and changed me forever, in a good way.  Before then I didn't know what it was like being alive and not constantly suicidal.  I was worried that antidepressants would change me into something I'm not, but it didn't change me in any way other than I wasn't constantly in emotional self-loathing pain.  If anyone is depressed I highly recomend they give them a try for at least a month.  It was an eye-opening experience for me.

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 5:51:00 PM   
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quote:

but what bothers me i guess is they only fix the symptoms, not the problem....


There are no known cures for mood disorders, treatment is the only thing available.


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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 6:13:16 PM   
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There are no known cures for mood disorders, treatment is the only thing available.

But are Meds the only type of treatment that work for those?  I truly don't know, that's why i am asking.
Is there alternative methods to help?  Does it necessarily have to be a Drug?  I guess i feel this way about all kinds of Med use, not just anti-depressants.  Just curious.

Thanks for the info.

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RE: antidepressent meds - 8/27/2006 6:28:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		My depression is caused because my body does not process serotonin like it is supposed to, and welbutrin regulates that. 


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