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BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/4/2005 1:27:56 PM)

Dear Insideyourmind and Cynnacent,
Congrats on the beautiful tattoo...
I have always been slightly curious about tattoos, but not enough to mark self because 1)I am fairly conservative in some ways, and don't want people assuming more things about me because I have one, and 2)I'm afraid of needles. I would love to tattoo my sub/slave when I have a permanent relationship, though will be careful not to place anything specific (like my name, lol) in case the relationship indeed is not permanent (since I've already married/divorced).
I congratulate you two on your commitment to and love for each other, and tatoo away to your heart's content.
M



dally -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/4/2005 1:32:20 PM)

haven't read this whole thread but i'm in a point right now that i have realized most men are just full of shit...doesn't matter if they are vanilla, or a "Master" all they want is someone to play with and then toss her aside when it's not fun anymore...i was close to getting an ownership tattoo, thank God i did not.... i have always felt a passion about this lifestyle yet i feel sadly dissappointed at this time, i feel that it's all bullshit...they want all this devotion and respect and trust from the slave yet usually don't give it in return...i'm devasted and so incredibly hurt and angry that i don't think i will ever trust another man again...no matter if he claims to be the most honorable Master in the world, i'll know it's a load of crap.



rubytuesday -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/4/2005 1:44:46 PM)

INSIDEYOURMIND and cynnacnet

I have loved reading about your relationship from the start in the posts and also your posts on subjects - I am aware that the only people who can judge what your relationship is like is yourselves and I think that your tattoos are an awesome thing to have done - regardless of what anyone else thinks - to thine own self be true.

Im sorry dally has been hurt but each relationship is individual and from reading INSIDEYOURMINDs posts he comes across as genuine and caring and I think cynnacnet is fortunate to have found him and vice versa.
For every false master etc etc out there, there are also men that have been burned by women - its just the way life is .

Good luck for the future and Im happy for you guys

smiles
ruby




INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/4/2005 1:53:33 PM)

dally,

I tried to contact you directly but your profile is gone.

It is obvious that someone has hurt you deeply, and I can completely understand.

Do not allow an idiot the satisfaction that he has defeated you. Learn from this, and use it to better your next relationship.

The ratio of crapness is equal on both sides, but if you don't allow yourself another chance, it's only you that is losing out.

Feel free to contact me via email if you want to talk this out with someone who prides themselves for their low level of crap!




dally -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/4/2005 1:57:22 PM)

yes, i know not everyone is the same.....i also have kept up with insideyourminds and cyns romance and i agree, it certainly is inspiring and i geniunely wish them the best....as for me personally tho, i am convinced that my soulmate was from another era, certainly not from this one, i know i will never find anyone who is trust worthy, devoted, honorable, and that has dignity and integrity, i believe that has been lost in our society...i thought i had found it, but as usual, i was wrong...i have realized i was living in a fantasy world thinking that i could have a true Master/slave relationship as i had always visualized it, i have come to the conclusion, sadly enough, that it is all bullshit.



sub4hire -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/4/2005 7:24:49 PM)

dally,
The last person I heard speaking as harsh as you are about the opposite sex has not been with a man now in about 15 years. Overnight she turned lesbian.
Obviously someone scorned you bad. That doesn't mean the whole world is bad though.
Just the one's you seem to have ran into. Doesn't mean that someday you won't run into a wonderful man who will fall madly in love with you and live happily ever after.
Other's have had sucessful relationships. Your time is coming as well. Just give it a chance. Negativity turns people off as well.
When you least expect it the right person will come your way.



velvetvixen -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/5/2005 5:44:19 AM)


quote:

When you least expect it the right person will come your way.

That phrase used to turn me into a ranting and raving madwoman. Now, I must admit I use it on occasion myself.

dally, it is true once you can stop being angry everything changes. Easier said than done, though.

Be well.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/5/2005 11:41:28 AM)

quote:

Just my opinion, but it seems really shallow and maybe just a vanity for a dominant to permanently mark a submissive without getting marked in return.

I notice that Merc and Beth went for tattoos together. Perhaps they'll share their opinions on this.


I find it scary that beth has adopted so many of my thought processes. her answer sums up my general feelings about the issue.

I'll add my personal perspective. My tattoo is the symbol for Master. I didn't think it appropriate for me to have such a tattoo until I had a slave. Although I had many submissive partners and many lifestyle experiences, a 'Master' requires a slave. With beth I achieved the right to wearing that symbol - and I was proud to do so.

It is impossible to explain the feeling that I get when I see beth's tattoo. For those who don't know, beth's tattoo is the Chinese symbol for slave on the small of her back. And yes, as she said, once she was my slave - she did not have any choice in the matter.

Directing this now to the people who want to be Masters/Mistresses in the context of owned a slave; owning anything comes with more responsibilities then most appreciate. As much as you think you KNOW what you'd do when/if you own a slave, reality is different. For example, I always liked the idea of labia and nipple piercings, but beth is VERY sensitive to metal in her body. Even an ear piercing took forever to heal. So, although I have the right and can have her pierced at any time, I choose not to. I would not want to risk my possession, and selfishly, I don't want to risk the 'down time'.

Owning a slave, you now have the responsibility for everything that you do to your possession. It is not a game! This discussion serves as another reason why I resent on-line lifestyle practitioners placing themselves on the same level as those who live it 24/7 real time. Assuming you value your slave as the rare jewel that it is. Before getting a tattoo, you better know how his/her body will react to tattoo ink.

I love seeing beth's tattoo. Even when she isn't naked, unfortunately STILL illegal in public for most of CA, it's often exposed. Seeing it, knowing it's meaning, is very erotic. Saying it's erotic doesn't really do it justice. It's erotic impact is just an underscore. It's really MORE then erotic. It hits upon something deeper in my mind, and impacts me down to my core. Maybe Insideyourmind will be better then me in describing the feeling I'm sure he has when he sees cynnacent's.

Regarding whether Jeff (Insideyourmind) shared the experience with his slave is not important. I was also curious if he had gotten a matching or complimentary one (in this case a key?) because he and I have chatted a few times. I'm actually surprised that there wasn't a snake or spider reference. But his choices, location and design, are great.

As cynnacent says, my relationship with beth is quite similar to Jeff and hers. From my perspective he did share it, he was there, he designed it. I sure he is proud of her and proud that she forever will wear a mark uniquely his. In fact, I'm jealous of that uniqueness and may have to go back and amend beth's!



INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/5/2005 12:23:18 PM)

quote:

And to answer your question, I did in fact get a tattoo at the same time, it is not a symbol or mark that shows my devotion to my sub, but it is a symbol of my devotion to my sub.


About 10 years ago, I was in a very serious, and what at the time appeared to be a permanent relationship with another submissive. This submissive went out one day and came back with a tattoo of my name with an apostrophe S, (JEFFREY'S) on her shoulderblade. I was taken by surprise and was actually very mad at her making this decision without consulting me.

After 7 years of this same relationship, and after a period of shakiness, I thought strongly enough about this woman, and our relationship, that I decided to have a lower case "t" put on my right arm. I should have known this was a mistake because I had my first of 5 heart attacks the day after the tattoo!

That relationship ended over 3 years ago, and I have regretted that tattoo every day. It was a reminder of that bad time in my life, and it was viewed by me everytime I looked in the mirror. (well, with my shirt off!) Due to my health, I was never really able to do anything about this.

My sub lays next to me on my right side, it bothered me that she had to look at it everyday, she never made a comment, and being the respectful sub that she is, I knew I would never hear anything from her, but it bothered me.

When I decided to take her and put my mark on her, she had no idea that I had planned on getting a new tattoo, and I think she may have even been concerned because of my health, in getting one.

After she was done, I told her that I was also getting a tattoo, I had the "T" made into a star. It is a huge honking star, but it is no longer a symbol of what was, but what will be.

When discussing with the tattoo artist my options, he first suggested covering it with a heart, and this was never a choice because of the symbolism that may carry.

So, understand, my mark on my sub has strong meanings, and I take this and all responsibilities involving my sub very seriously! In the photo of carolyn's mark, you will notice it is on the nape of her neck. At my request, carolyn wears her hair down and keeps it at a longer length, that I prefer. No one would even know of this mark, except the 2 people that it means something to. I chose to share it with all of you for the reasons posted elsewhere on this thread.

Timo,

Thanks for the kind words, I am sorry we do not live closer, we would be wonderful friends to each other! I wish you the same luck that I have with carolyn, and I hope that we can also have as much luck as you do with beth!

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Mercnbeth -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/5/2005 12:23:39 PM)

quote:

for me personally tho, i am convinced that my soulmate was from another era, certainly not from this one, i know i will never find anyone who is trust worthy, devoted, honorable, and that has dignity and integrity, i believe that has been lost in our society...i thought i had found it, but as usual, i was wrong...i have realized i was living in a fantasy world thinking that i could have a true Master/slave relationship as i had always visualized it, i have come to the conclusion, sadly enough, that it is all bullshit.


dally,
Convincing you to have any other opinion right now would be fruitless. Others have already consoled and encouraged you and my guess they deepened your feelings. I won't add to that. I'm sure, trying to build you up and encourage you with positive thoughts has the same effect on you as your skepticism and negativity has on beth, me, and others who are living in a self labeled 'perfect' relationship.

I'd just observe that cheapening or discounting the emotions you felt at one time - won't eliminate them. What happened to you doesn't reflect something "lost in our society". Sad to say, it was personal. It was one person, one experience. Surrendering your soul to resentment or resolute object disgust for the world around you isn't fair to the positive experiences you lived through. And there must have been positive experiences. You can't fall and hurt so badly if you were only at the first step of a relationship.

Skepticism is good. Blind trust is worst trait anyone can have; vanilla or flavored, Dom or sub. "Fault" is a game for small children, but was your experience the result of being blinded by the fantasy?



rubytuesday -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/5/2005 1:48:53 PM)

I am as always in awe of the relationship between Merc and Beth and INSIDEYOURMIND and cynnacent - it gives me hope and makes me realise that there is always good along with the bad out there.

Your sincerity and caring and the way in which you conduct your relationships make such a brilliant example and I for one dont wish to settle for anything less - I dont know if I explain this right but what both couples show for me is the difference between bad control and good control. I use the word control loosely btw - just becuase I cant quite put my finger on the word I want.

All power to you guys and thanks for making me smile

smiles
ruby




MistressDREAD -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 3:54:51 AM)

quote:

haven't read this whole thread but i'm in a point right now that i have realized most men are just full of shit...doesn't matter if they are vanilla, or a "Master" all they want is someone to play with and then toss her aside when it's not fun anymore


If you are at the point right now that you have no respect for men then this is not the post that you should be making comment on girl. go find a corner and cry it out and then get your ass back into the game with a better attitude. you stated your self it is done so get over it and get your butt back to reality and us here. It takes two to play and if you agreed to do so then you are half as guilty for letting your self be played so dont forget your half full of shit too. Wise up. There are many Good and Honorable Men in the world. Just cause you hap chanced on one not suited for you doesent make the whole bunch sour.JMO


I love the choice INSIDEYOURMIND made in a tat for cyn.
Those that know ME know that I have a full arm tat of My
belovid dread on My right upper arm and the names of each
of My lifetime contracted slaves under his pic. I agree that
ownership is reciprocal in action and kind.....



MsCameron -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 6:28:54 AM)

Wonderful tattoo INSIDEYOURMIND :) and congrats to you both.

I come at this from a little bit of a different angle.

About 8 months ago, I asked my submissive, who is an artist, to design a tattoo for me. At age 46, I have always wanted one but never found exactly what I was looking for.

After a couple of trys, he got it. When I looked at the final design, I just smiled :) It is perfect.

While this tattoo is not a symbol of ownership, it is very special to me. Within the design is a hidden little something known only to myself and him. This is something I asked him to incorporate but that nobody else would see.

It's even more special to me because after almost 4 years, our time together will come to an end sometime this year.
Perhaps it's my way of marking a very meaningful time in my life.

No, he will not have a tattoo done on himself. He had a frenum piercing done at South Plains Leather last year. I prefered that over a tat.

Anyway, the appointment is booked for two weeks from now :) It will be my first and will go on my lower back just above my butt.
As attached:

MsC



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ruffnecksbabygir -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 9:55:22 AM)

Hello again!
this is "dally" and yes my Master did decide to take me back and eventhough i am not allowed to go into details about our personal life together i will just say that everything did work out very well and yes i feel very secure and extremely happy in this relationship, and that was the reason for my despair when it fell apart.

Thanks for your support... i am sorry if i was so incredibly bitter on my last few posts, i was broken hearted at the time and saw my world come crashing down on me....now i am back to feeling the blissful happiness i first felt when the relationship began.

quote:

And Those Who Danced Were Thought To Be Quite Insane By Those Who Could Not Hear The Music


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INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 11:16:05 AM)

quote:

now i am back to feeling the blissful happiness i first felt when the relationship began.


dally,

I am happy for you that your relationship with your Master has been resolved.

I would offer this advice to you, because of the emotional roller coaster you expressed on this thread, this time really communicate with your Master.

Let him know how, what, when, and why you are feeling, it is only through complete communication can you build a strong foundation to grow on.

Good luck, I wish you only the best!



MiladyElaine -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 11:30:16 AM)

Good for you! I'm glad you share.



FangsNfeet -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 6:06:00 PM)

Well I see she is Tatooed. Just as I IM'd you the other day, I'll say again that I like the mark. Very creative, nice, and noticable, yet able to be hidden just for you. I wish the two of you a happy life.



proudsub -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 9:17:41 PM)

quote:

this is "dally" and yes my Master did decide to take me back


I'm so glad to hear that dally.[:)]



proudsub -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 9:21:10 PM)

quote:

While this tattoo is not a symbol of ownership, it is very special to me. Within the design is a hidden little something known only to myself and him. This is something I asked him to incorporate but that nobody else would see.


I really like it. And you're right the special design is certainly hidden. I enlarged it and still can't see anything.



bottominwa -> RE: Ownership Tattoo (1/6/2005 10:59:16 PM)

Master and this girl have the same tattoo...it is the House symbol and can also be found on just about everything Master owns including His truck, this girl's collar has it also as do both the dogs and cats, the kids have bracelets with it on. We even have a sign at Our house with it on it...lmao. she tried to take a picture but the tattoo is in a place her crappy digital camera isnt showing it up right...her ivory skin kind of over exposes with the flash and the metal ones on everything seem to be reflecting the flash...when He gets home she will post it though it is quite lovely, and House original.

ok so she got a pic of the sign...it isnt screwing with the flash since it isn't metal and she can get far enough away to take a pic..she can't figure out how to get a pic of her shoulder by herself they just turn out all white..lol

the flags are signal flags that is what Master is in the Army, Signal...the House symbol is on the bottom, it is a lineature with two of the bdsm ying yang inside...anyhow its on everything Master Owns or that is part of the house pretty much.

It occurs ot her after all that on her profile the third or fourth picture ehr colalr is clearly visible with it on there..lmao so much for the puter retarded...lol
sabrina King

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