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Yourkajira -> Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 6:51:44 PM)

my Master has decided that i am to begin journaling. He requested that i research it as it is used in D/s and to ask if anyone had any suggestions as prompts.




wonderland -> RE: Slave Journalinghttp://section12.com/index.cfm? (8/30/2006 6:57:06 PM)

Many people post their online journals here.

http://section12.com




Miseri -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 6:58:12 PM)

I have a journal on livejournal. That might be a good choice for you. You can even make it private it you choose. It does help to go back and read where I was a year ago or even longer.




krikket -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 7:04:54 PM)

Way back i kept a journal at my Master's request.  When i stumbled with what to share, he told me to share my day, my thoughts about the day, as well as my feelings.  i was told to ask questions i'd like him to answer (in his time not always mine..lol), and then to share my feelings and thoughts about what his answers were.  One thing he told me was the difference between a feeling and a  thought or judgment.   i might feel badly about something or someone, but if i say i "feel" that i made a mistake was a thought or opinion, rather than a feeling.  Basically if thought/felt could be exchanged it was usually a thought or opinion.  If i couldn't it exchange the words then chances were it was an opinion.  This came about because what he was really interested in hearing how i felt about something.  Yes, my opinions and thoughts were important to him, but for different reasons.  He pointed out that, like almost all rules, there are exceptions (sorta like that eternal "but" our Doms and Masters are so fond of using..lol). 

Sometimes i'd use my journal (with his encouragement) to vent, to just get things off of my chest.  Sometimes i'd ask questions, or show him pics i'd found what what i thought.

We did do one thing that was rather unusual...he set up a website where we could both write to each other our thoughts and feelings and opinions.  His feed back was almost right on...(and don't ya just "hate" that sometimes..lol).  He didn't really care what i wrote about, as long as it was respectful to both of us.  The other "rule" was that what ever we wrote about was safe from "anger" or retaliation, but was open to further discussion, from either side, at the right moment. 

While there were times when time was short, and frustration ran long, i wrote almost every day, and i learned more about myself at any time in my adult life.

Good luck, and hope this helps.

cheers
jimini

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yourkajira

my Master has decided that i am to begin journaling. He requested that i research it as it is used in D/s and to ask if anyone had any suggestions as prompts.




mstrjx -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 7:09:03 PM)

I believe in journals for a variety of reasons.

My particular 'bent' is that the journal should be used as a focus for issues relative to the subject and their place in the Lifestyle.

Something along the lines of 'Went to work, had lunch with Sally, remembered I had to pick up milk at the market, went home, etc.' is inadequate.

However, 'went to work and thought of what Master/Mistress said to me last night about xyz' probably does have some merit.

I feel that journals should be written as if solely for yourself, although with the knowledge that it could be looked at at any time.  I wouldn't necessarily color my thoughts to avoid confrontation, rather if there is an issue that hasn't come up in person or is better communicated in the journal (knowing that it will be viewed), then it is productive.

Just my thought.

Jeff




LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 7:28:37 PM)

Reposted:
I think females in general really like journaling- it lets them say "lookit me!" without actually having to say it.

But I think too often submissives become dependent on the journal, RATHER than using it as a launchpad into more meaningful and direct contact.  If the dom doesn't take the impetus to bring up issues in person, I find that the issue doesn't really get raised at all- leading the sub to think that the dom doesn't care or isn't interested, rather than simply directly bringing it up.

I also feel it raises too many expectations- if a dom misses a reading or doesn't give some feedback on it, subs often begin to feel let down or insecure. 

I think encouraging someone to express themselves through writing is a fabulous idea.  But it should not become a crutch or substitute for actual discussion of issues, and should not become a burden or symbol of attention for the dominant to take on.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_324861/mpage_1/key_journal/tm.htm
Journaling for subs

http://www.collarchat.com/m_496605/mpage_1/key_journal/tm.htm#496785
Keeping a Journal





pup75 -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 7:32:28 PM)

I love journals! There are excellent tools for accomplishing a number of objectives:
  • Slowing down to really think about a given topic.
  • Leading a submissive to arrive at new ideas and intended conclusions.
  • Getting feedback from a submissive after a scene, especially if boundaries have been explored or expanded.

To me, a Dominant who knows how to develop and improve a submissive using journals is greatly to be desired!




NYGHTVISIONS -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 7:44:50 PM)

I too keep a journal per Master's request. We use it the same as many here have already said - to get thoughts out of my head and onto paper, for questions, for Him to know where my head/thoughts/feelings are at if i am having trouble expressing things, etc. I am able to write whatever, with no repercussions - but entries can lead to wonderful conversations.
I love to use journal books and pens, but i also type it all into a Word document for Him.
slave lisa
344-855-363




porcelaine -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 8:21:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yourkajira

my Master has decided that i am to begin journaling. He requested that i research it as it is used in D/s and to ask if anyone had any suggestions as prompts.


I find great enjoyment in journaling and typically recommend it to those that have never done so. I believe it is a wonderful tool and does enable the writer to become more attuned to their thoughts and feelings in an environment that is accepting and devoid of consequence. While it is a form of communication for me, I am not wholly dependent upon them as my only source of interaction with a dominant. In my opinion they provide a wonderful snapshot of the experiences and lessons learned on my journey. It is merely one of many measures one can employ to inspire growth and creativity.

porcelaine




KatyLied -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 8:26:57 PM)

I am a fan of journaling, but I agree, it shouldn't replace other communication.  If you are asked by a Dom to do it, hopefully it will grow into something you do for yourself.  I find it helpful, whether I'm talking about an issue or maybe just a stream of consciousness output.  It can be good to get some things out of your brain.  Sometimes I use thread topics from the forums as journal topics.




xkittenishx -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 8:48:56 PM)

I keep a journal, per my Master's request as well, on LiveJournal, which is a great place since one can keep entries 'public', 'friendlocked' or 'private'.

My only rule is that three entries (at least) a week must be made - to assure that I'm using it but not so many entries that it feels overwhelming.  I've been allowed complete freedom to speak my mind there (respectfully, of course.).  It's led us to some really great discussions after He's read the entries and I find that I almost always have something I want to write about - whether it's my inner feelings on some aspects of my slavery or musings about different viewpoints etc on BDSM in general.

I think a slave's journal is a wonderful idea that you'll get plenty of use out of. :)




DiurnalVampire -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 8:57:18 PM)

I have one question.  Are there any male slaves that keep journals?
This seems to be a mainly female responded topic, but that could just be because we outnumber the men on the forums in general.  Id be curious to know if there are male slaves that keepa  journal, Ive considered having my boy do so. It sems like a good way to find out some of his thoughts that dont tend to come up in conversation, but I dont know if men have the same success with the journaling process that the women here seem to be having.
I know my LJ, while under used at best, is rather theraputic when I bother with it.

DV




angielouwhos -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 9:20:36 PM)

My husband is a slave and he has journaled for almost ten years. In fact he is much more persistant at it than I. I also think he is an incredibly good writer and I am "written word challenged" but that is another conversation :)




angielouwhos -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 9:22:23 PM)

I have trouble staying with it like a lot of people, but I find journaling to be theraputic and "focusing". There is a great system/book called the "Artist's Way" that helps you get started, with the premise that journaling helps bring out the creativity in people.




notAkitten -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/30/2006 9:34:29 PM)

Journaling is a good stress reducer also.  When i began journaling it was a daily thing.  Later it was something used when i needed it.  i continue to keep one today just for my own personal growth and pleasure.

The problem i had with the daily one was there was not always something meaningful to write.  So yes, i was trapped into trying to find something meaningful and hated doing the task. 

Either way, good luck with it and i hope it brings pleasure to your Master to see you obeying His command.

nota




ToServeIsToLive -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/31/2006 12:04:59 AM)

I was writing a journal for a while.  I've since given up on it though.  I always had a hard time writing anything between uneventful days and it never feeling normal(for lack of a better word) writing in one.  I'll probably end up trying again, but I'll probably run into the same problems.




mons -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/31/2006 1:16:18 AM)

greetings
 
this is more of a post i could not find a post thing. but i wanted to ask all of the slave male and female submissvies too.
 
are you truly happy? i find it so hard that some of you have angry and need to vent for some reason or other, have you chosen the right master or dom? does he treat you will? this is not a disrespect to anyone of the master , i as a dominant woman find many of the slaves who write me are so needy and hugry just for someone to love them it makes me feels so sad at times, but i can not take everyone and soothe them.
i respect all of you submissive and slaves your so strong i for one could not do what you do i am a chicken for sure. you streghtn is amazing you love for you master is so overwhelming i am just amazed in how you do this.
 
tell me please how you go about your life as a slave to you master and how is he to you. punishment is another thing is it hitting i will beat or hit my slave or i will not speak to them for at least a week tis something that is needed at times.
 
it is a sexual feeling when you are punish? i thank all of you if you answer
 
mons




Padriag -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/31/2006 1:52:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Yourkajira

my Master has decided that i am to begin journaling. He requested that i research it as it is used in D/s and to ask if anyone had any suggestions as prompts.

To answer your question, here then are my recommendations and requirements when I have a slave keep a journal.  I've also added notations in italics about my reasons why for each requirement.

1)  The journal should be hand written, not typed. 
In my own experience, hand written journals tend to provoke more thought.  There is something about the discipline of writing things out by hand that seems to stimulate the the way we think.  It has a tendency to focus us, to bring things to the surface, to cause us to think more deeply about what we write.  There is also something powerful about writing things out by hand, its very personal and intimate and this is very appropriate for a journal which should be both personal and intimate.

2)  The journal should not be kept online, it is private and personal and should remain so.
A journal is not a place for exhibitionism.  Its not about public humiliation nor spectacle.  A jouranl is a place for private introspection, for personal examination.  In journals we can write down our fears, our hopes, our dreams, our nightmares, our disapointments and our triumphs without shame and without reservation... because they are private.  Journals are sacred, reading someone's journal without permission is akin to mental rape (not a word I use lightly).

3)  A special note book should be designated for the journal, preferably something special, such at a leather bound edition.
This is about motivation.  By designating a special book as a journal, and preferably purchasing a special book for this one purpose we are making a kind of commitment to the task.  That helps us begin.  It helps us motivate ourselves and set in motion a new habit that for many is very unfamiliar.  By making it special we make it important to us, and we tend to stick to things that are important to us.

4)  On the first page of the journal, write a statement of intent.  This page declares who the journal belongs to, the reason and goals for keeping it.  For example, the slave might declare that it is a record of their enslavement, a record of their life as a slave, etc.  It might also state ambitions, such as the hope that it will record the achievements of an obedient and treasured slave.
Also about motivation.  Whenever the slave begins a journal entry and finds themselves staring at a blank page that seems impossible to fill, I suggest they go back to this first page and re-read what they wrote.  That simple statement of intent can become a very powerful, and empowering, statement of motivation.  It reminds the slave what this book is for, what their purpose in keeping it is.  Made all the more powerful by being in their own words and their own handwriting.

5)  Nothing is taboo in the journal, the slave may write down anything and everything honestly, nothing said here will ever be disclosed to anyone else nor will it be used against her (she cannot be punished for anything written in the journal).
Again, the journal is a sacred place to write down and express anything the slave is feeling or thinking.  There are no wrong answers, nothing that cannot be written or thought or felt.  In life we hold so much back, we wear masks, we play roles.  In our journals we can be as we are, unfettered and unrestrained.  We can scream, we can be angry, we can be sad, we can be happy, we can be silly, we can be anything we feel or think or imagine.  That's liberating, and its also helpful.  It lets us see ourselves as we really are.

6)  Her owner will periodically read the journal, to both ensure it is being kept and to help improve communication and understanding, to aid her in being transparent.
Communication is very important.  An owner needs to understand their property intimately well.  That understanding and communication helps create a better relationship, helps see to it that unspoken needs are met and fears are addressed.  Owners have to be careful with this, sometimes you'll read things that may sting a bit.  Those moments when in a journal a slave gives voice to disapointment or hurt at something you did, and you come face to face with that.  Owners have to be prepared to take that in stride and not react to it, but instead to act to address it, to correct their own mistakes.  Reading a slaves journal helps the owner not only to understand their property better, but also to see themselves through the eyes of their slave... sometimes a startling revelation.




ExSteelAgain -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/31/2006 2:16:07 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: krikket

Way back i kept a journal at my Master's request.  When i stumbled with what to share, he told me to share my day, my thoughts about the day, as well as my feelings.  i was told to ask questions i'd like him to answer (in his time not always mine..lol), and then to share my feelings and thoughts about what his answers were.  One thing he told me was the difference between a feeling and a  thought or judgment.   i might feel badly about something or someone, but if i say i "feel" that i made a mistake was a thought or opinion, rather than a feeling.  Basically if thought/felt could be exchanged it was usually a thought or opinion.  If i couldn't it exchange the words then chances were it was an opinion.  This came about because what he was really interested in hearing how i felt about something.  Yes, my opinions and thoughts were important to him, but for different reasons.  He pointed out that, like almost all rules, there are exceptions (sorta like that eternal "but" our Doms and Masters are so fond of using..lol). 

Sometimes i'd use my journal (with his encouragement) to vent, to just get things off of my chest.  Sometimes i'd ask questions, or show him pics i'd found what what i thought.

We did do one thing that was rather unusual...he set up a website where we could both write to each other our thoughts and feelings and opinions.  His feed back was almost right on...(and don't ya just "hate" that sometimes..lol).  He didn't really care what i wrote about, as long as it was respectful to both of us.  The other "rule" was that what ever we wrote about was safe from "anger" or retaliation, but was open to further discussion, from either side, at the right moment. 

While there were times when time was short, and frustration ran long, i wrote almost every day, and i learned more about myself at any time in my adult life.

Good luck, and hope this helps.

cheers
jimini


The way you two did it, Krikket, makes a lot of sense to me with both of you posting to your website. You were able to learn as much from his writing as he could learn from yours. My experience is that some subs write poorly and it would bore me immensely to read the drivel. With others, it is a tool that offers insight into the person and the relationship.




littlesubjess -> RE: Slave Journaling (8/31/2006 3:05:18 AM)

I have an online journal, as do my Master and Mistress at www.my-diary.org. you can make it private or "publish" it.

Jess xxx




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