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NeedToUseYou -> RE: Minimum Rage! opps Wage, dangit Wage... (9/4/2006 11:05:45 PM)
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ORIGINAL: SubmissiveOphelia
No it is being lazy and stupid. Stupid piecework for stupid people.
So by your logic, if everyone had Bachelor's and Master's degrees no one would need to do those piece work jobs. The vast majority of jobs don't require a degree. Regardless of how many degrees you hand out, those jobs will need filled. How many cancer specialists can a society subsidize. Very few. How many lawyers, before the demand drops and fees they can charge. Every town needs garbage men, factory workers, store clerks or things grind to a stop. You can not function without them, the world could function, without lawyers, and cancer specialists. They may provide services but they aren't core requirements and you need very few of them in relation to the normal jobs.
Why do you have such hate for people that made tested, shipped, delivered, and sold you everything you rely on to survive. Honestly, never had a need for a lawyer or a cancer specialist, I've used accountants that is about it. Maybe someday, but I use the garbage man, products made by the factory workers, etc.. every day of my life.
I don't agree with a mandatory wage increases, but I in no way look down upon them or would refer to anyone working as stupid. Hell, I reserve that for people that don't work.
What is funny is I pay my helpers piece work. And it is pretty motivational. They can make 10- 12 an hour doing it. That is well above minimum wage and more than I thought they would be making, and not bad for a 18 year olds first adult job out of school. Being piece work I could care less when they come in to work and go. And being piece work based on there skill level not a flat dollar per hour they are motivated to increase there ability to work faster. Paying dollars / hour as a flat wage, discourages creative thought in figuring out more efficient methods. Piece work encourages workers to figure out, how to produce more pieces.
Now is it good for them to do that for the rest of there life probably not. I'd say they should open there own business and learn to provide a needed service,plan b would be try out sales jobs you can make good money if you enjoy and it's the ultimate job security(I hated it thought). Plan C would be to go to college. Those would be in the order of lifelong monetary potential. Universities just supply a formal stamp of approval. By no means does that mean people can't educate themselves outside of a formal learning institution.
Not sure if you are aware...
Amazon.com is full of those things called books, and in these things called books they sometimes store factual information. Now this is the difficult part for some to grasp. Ok, this is mind blowing, a person able to read can then take these books and in a process called self-education can absorb that information, and apply that knowledge in there life. I know it goes against the grain, that people can actually learn without a professor to spoon feed it to you. But it does work, try it!!
Nothing wrong with colleges or Universities, but if the only motivation for higher education is money, you are looking in the wrong place. If the motivation is to learn something you are interested in then by all means learn what you enjoy.
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