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serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 11:32:58 AM   
subtexxxt


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Hello everyone and Happy New Year,


Does anyone here have any tips / ideas for this non-masochistic slave to increase my endurance / pain threshold??? It's really important to me to be able to please my Mistress and accept the gift of Her sadism.

thanks,

subtexxt
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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 11:49:04 AM   
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ok, you need to breathe through the pain. Do not hold your breath. Concentrate on your breathing.

Another way is to see your body as a large house. When something bad is being done in the backyard, go upstairs to the attic on the other side of the house. Actively ignore the bad stuff going on.

Don't worry, your pain tolerance will increase. By the end of the year you'll be looking back going.. "I thought that hurt? I was a real wuss back then."

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 1:01:07 PM   
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BeachMystress has a good point... it is about refocusing, sometimes it is the change of what is being felt... taking it in the mind from the pain to the heat to the warmth to the pleasure. It is very much a learned thing. If you think about how you may have felt to once fear a simple spanking and yet now you may wish that a simple spanking is all it was! lol

Personally, i find that if permitted orgasm, it will 'melt away' all of the other sensations (when allowed)... this is because the focus of my attention is no longer on the pain that i am feeling, but on the pleasures i am experiencing. In time, it may all blend well together, but be prepared to know that if you are not a masochist by nature, then these things may not come to pass. Not everyone enjoys the same playing of the edge of S/m and every Sadist is different by nature.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 3:35:06 PM   
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Focusing on your breathing will help you though some of the pain, concentrate on taking deep breaths through your nose, and exhaling out your mouth, come up with a cadence that works for you, being careful not to hyperventilate.

By the way, your body will adjust to the pain in time, well, some of the pain!



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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 4:52:55 PM   
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Rather than tolerating the pain, try allowing yourself to react to it (if you don't already). Tears work for me.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 4:53:38 PM   
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Are you sure it is something you want to do? i tried dealing with a sadist and thought i would be able to handle anything based on my feelings for Him. i learned very quickly that i was not cut out for that kind of Domination.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 9:47:33 PM   
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Just to add to what jill said..be sure it's something you truly want and can commit to...and not something thats making you downright miserable and becoming a battle in your efforts to serve/submit.

I do understand your wanting to please your Mistress but, I'm not sure Sadism would really be considered a "gift" to someone who doesn't at least have masochistic tendencies.
(and even then a debateable term to even a masochist)

I wish I could help you here but, I've never really thought much about how to endure pain because it's always been a pleasant sensation for me, an escape, a safe place etc.....not an enduring task.

A few things that might help have already been mentioned but, to be honest if your Mistress is Sadistic and you really have no interest in Masochism..I don't really have any words of wisdom that will turn you into something your not.

Hope that made some sense..and best of luck to you..

~tam




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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 10:03:44 PM   
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Personally I find that NOT having an orgasm before hand is much more conducive to pain tolerance. After a release I am much more sensitive all over, and cant tolerate heavy play at that point. The best bet is practice, practice, practice...you will get better as time goes and the practicing is most of the fun. I hope your Domme is "warming you up" well. If you start out with a light beating (or whatever) and increase the intensity, you will build up a tolerance just within the scene. Being in the correct headspace to begin with is also very helpful. Some folks use rituals to get them into their roles, and to become mentally ready for a scene. Have fun...enjoy the journey.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/4/2005 10:12:42 PM   
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Thank Y/you A/all for the words of wisdom.

Yes i'm sure this is what i want, this Woman is truly my soul mate and i sincerly want to be what pleases Her. In the past i've experienced some intense pain and had a high threshold but that was years ago -- and i've noticed my threshold does increase according to my emotional attachment. i have yet to have experience Her sadism but i know its coming -- She is a ProDomme and i've "heard" from subs that She puts the 'S' in sadism -- so needless to say i'm a lil nervous.

Thanks again for the words of advice.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/5/2005 12:13:36 AM   
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quote:

Does anyone here have any tips / ideas for this non-masochistic slave to increase my endurance / pain threshold???

These threads might be of help:

tolerance/endurance

tolerance to pain

can you train a submissive to be a pain slut




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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/5/2005 6:18:54 AM   
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quote:

Does anyone here have any tips / ideas for this non-masochistic slave to increase my endurance / pain threshold???


Midear Texxxt-

I'd sugest opening yourself to the pain- welcome it in and let it blow through you. Relax into the moment instead of grabbing onto it. Imagine that it is traveling from the impact site through your body and going to ground through your restriants, like an electrical current (another reason restriants are a kindness<g>).

The above is the only tatic that seems to help me as a bottom. As a top, my sadism isn't feed so much by my application, but by their recepection of it, so do react (honestly, now, no hamming it up<g>) instead of taking it stoicly.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/6/2005 12:16:48 AM   
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wow,

Thank you A/all for the words of advice / and links. Its greatly appreciated.

respectfully,

subtexxxt

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/6/2005 6:19:28 PM   
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Thank you subtexxt for asking this question, to everyone for giving sucj wonderful replies and links. i have an upcoming meeting with a sadist soon and these same questions had been running through my mind. i'm nervous, excited, only a little apprehensive. i'm sure (i hope) all these mixed feelings are normal as with any new experience. more than anything i'm very excited about it, and can hardly wait. this info will make everything a lot easier instead of going in completelly blind

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/6/2005 7:58:45 PM   
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Breathe, relax, and most important of all... DON'T tense up... it only makes things worse.

I used to be one who couldn't handle pain... now I march along with the best of em because through relaxation, practice, and building up, I've learned to enjoy it...

And another thing... make sure it's something that you REALLY want to do for you... don't allow anyone to "force" you into becoming something you aren't!

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/6/2005 11:44:42 PM   
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I second the comment about -not- having orgasms. It makes it much easier for my endorphins to get to the level which makes the pain go away or feel amazing.

I also second the part about relaxing. Do it conciously. Tell each part of your body to calm down. (This is the one that got me thorugh nipple peircings. Ow.)

Also, if it's ok with your partner, don't hesitate to make noise. This only works for me sometimes, but vocalizing helps me to flow with pain and just let it happen.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/7/2005 12:30:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: topcat

I'd sugest opening yourself to the pain- welcome it in and let it blow through you. Relax into the moment instead of grabbing onto it. Imagine that it is traveling from the impact site through your body and going to ground through your restriants, like an electrical current (another reason restriants are a kindness<g>).


It's energy, entering your body, so like Lawrence says, let it move through you and out. Sometimes it helps to "transform" the energy - into sound (yell, curse, etc) or movement (stomp your feet, bang your fists against the wall, shake, etc). YOu can do it with colour or light. It's a little more esoteric, but sometimes I can "feel" what colour the energy is, and change it into something else (purple works well for me usually).

And breathing. As has been said already, don't forget to breathe. You can actively exhale the energy, and rhythmic deep breathing helps you relax as well.

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As a top, my sadism isn't feed so much by my application, but by their recepection of it, so do react (honestly, now, no hamming it up<g>) instead of taking it stoicly.


Stoic bottoms do nothing for me. Why am I expending all this energy if they're going to ignore it? What do I get out of that? It's all about the reactions for me.


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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/7/2005 7:14:08 AM   
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Building that pain threshold is difficult at first. Being gagged and / or having something to bite down on helps. I agree with the comments on emotional attachment and transferrance as helping, it built my threshold greatly over time. Sometimes, during a very savage scene, she will place a washcloth, sock, panties, or similar item in my mouth. Obviously, everyone is different and there is no one fits all solution.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/17/2005 12:09:00 PM   
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Thank you for all advice posted to this thread. i used to be able to take anything anyone could dish out. Since becoming involved in a 24/7 relationship, i am not able to take anything this Master gives me. Even his smallest spankings are hard for me to take. Of course he has not formally tried any training with me in this area. i feel very bad as Master would really LOVE being able to really lay into me, but his style has been hard for me to adjust to. In seven months, i have hardly made any progress at all.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/17/2005 12:25:15 PM   
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All my little nuggest of wisdom are pretty much used up in other people's posts. I would most assuredly pay attention to what Topcat, Perverseangelic, SherriA, and subhubc have to say.

And for crying out loud, if this person is a sadist, then SUFFER! Thrash, wail, cry, scream. It's fun for you and it's fun for them. Better yet, once you enter into a full-blown cathartic state, very often you hit a very calm, tranquil place deep within yourself, where it really is possible to accept whatever it is they have to dish out. Go there often enough, and you won't need quite so much drama to find your way there again. Eventually just the play space itself, or your dominant's favorite toys, or whatever paraphenalia you use as part of your play time rituals, will carry enough associative energy to put you in that place. Then you'll be able to do what you have asked about, to simply submit and accept the caress of her whip.

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RE: serving a SADIST - 1/17/2005 3:05:51 PM   
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I wish you luck, some types of meditation might work, some types of chrystals in the room can also reduse the feeling of pain as bad, for you belive in that sort of things.

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