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sub4hire -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 11:22:30 AM)

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Can anyone argue the Sweetly's perspective was that she was harassed? Take the scenario just one step further. Instead of calling and letting her know he was coming to visit, suppose he just showed up and knocked on her door, or even managed go get into her room. Does he now become a stalker or worst - an attempted rapist? Authorities will base their opinion on only one source - Sweetly's. Is there any doubt if the scenario was played out to the point of police being called who would end up in handcuffs - and not the fur lined leather ones?


In the world today. What do you believe would have happened? Criminally of course. I don't see any harassement. I see parts of the story not being told to us. Then I see parts that we didn't hear before being added in. This was much more than a casual aquaintance type online relationship.
Then of course, I have to see both sides of the story. That is the whole purpose for the boards here. If you want only sympathy you should attach that in big bold letters to the top of your post before you post it. No opinions wanted, JUST SYMPATHY.



INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 11:32:30 AM)

Dammit gloria,

I hate when I have to agree with you!

Jeffrey[:D]



Mercnbeth -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 12:02:22 PM)

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I don't see any harassment.


Gloria -
I didn't either. My point was on the subject of perspective. As I said, unless we ended up as jurors, the only one needing to FEEL harassed (FEEL NOT BE) to cause a potentially serious problem for the friend was Sweetly.

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I see parts of the story not being told to us. Then I see parts that we didn't hear before being added in.


This of course is a horse of another color that we can beat to death. (I just LOVE mixing metaphors!) Being the opinionated and pragmatic egotist that I am, when I see anyone leave a thread or worse, leave the entire site when challenged; I assume the mirror that was held up for them to see them self was too harsh and showed too many blemishes.

Her situation, man in Iraq, pregnant with a child unwanted by the father, and then being harassed while having to do business travel - sound like the subject of soap opera. She was Dally then Sweetly Misguided - now a ghost. Did the questioning regarding the original post cause her to pull the plug? Did guilt enter into the picture when it was asked if she teased her friend?

I guess we'll never know, but wouldn't it be great to hear from this friend?

Let's hope CM uses your idea - a new Forum Header - "Sympathy Only", where people can go to tell what happened and not worry about insensitive assholes like me.


PS - Did your Munch get rained out over the weekend?



sub4hire -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 12:08:54 PM)

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Let's hope CM uses your idea - a new Forum Header - "Sympathy Only", where people can go to tell what happened and not worry about insensitive assholes like me.


PS - Did your Munch get rained out over the weekend?


I think I was the only one called an insensitve asshole this time. She liked your opinions. I'm the only one in the beginning that read through them. Well at least voiced my opinion. After I did many voiced the same to me in private e-mail.
It is a sad day that people feel they cannot express their true feelings on the board anymore for fear of retribution.


The munch was small because of the rain. But it was the best munch we've had in a long time. Because of the size we all crammed together at one of those large tables and actually had a good BDSM discussion. Afterwards we continued it in the jacuzzi. When so many people show up, and you just can't personally chat with all. That bother's me. So, every other munch we could get rained out and it would suit me just fine.



INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 12:19:45 PM)

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It is a sad day that people feel they cannot express their true feelings on the board anymore for fear of retribution.


Gloria,

I don't think they are afraid of retribution, it never ceases to amaze me that when people post on a public forum and don't get the advice they want to hear, they become combative, and at times downright rude.

I may be direct, and even sarcastic at times, but I am always honest, and to the point!



sweetpleaser -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 12:45:37 PM)

Merc; just a little correction...she was not Dally. Dally changed to ruffnecksbabygirl (sp?). I don't know what happened to her either but my gut tells me she got mad at us and wanted sympathy only.



sub4hire -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 1:10:22 PM)

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I don't know what happened to her either but my gut tells me she got mad at us and wanted sympathy only.


The majority only gave her sympathy. Very few didn't.



SweetlyMisguided -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/10/2005 9:41:40 PM)

Ummm excuse me if I may... I have NOT left the site, I am dealing with things in my personal life right now which is why my profile has been removed (disabled)... Sorry, but I have the right to do so.

As for just wanting sympathy... Nope. My experience is a lesson to others... be VERY careful whom you trust and what you trust them with. Simple as that.

Sub you are still insisting it is more than it was... and that's your right. Everyone has the right to their own opinion so I can't say much more other than you are wrong about that. Simple enough right?

Anyways, unfortunatley, as it so happens, I have a life and choices are being made right now. That's all that needs to be said as to my reasons for disabling my profile.



slavedesires -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 7:30:51 AM)


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ORIGINAL: topcat

Dear 'Petal-

ahem.

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i change my profile frequetly for i am an evolving human being.


Last time I looked, SM's peofile was very clear about her Marine. She has, it seems, changed it in the light of the events here:

'not taking this well...'

I compleatly understand your confusion, but there was more to the story that others of us were aware of- it is no fualt of yours that you were not.

Stay warm,
Lawrence


Sir, i also do as darkpetal does, change my profile often.
but the interests and basic physical stuff never changes. i don't know about her.
sometimes on my profile i have indicated i am taken and by whom. He has always given me the peragative of what to say on my profile, but rarely in chat or discussion have i not spoken of Him.

i think, i agree for the most part with proudsub and darkpetal and others who might not say so....
i guess by expereince. i know unwillingly i have "lead" a dom on, before i was owned and after. i had a chat just the other day with a dom on here who i had to finally say, "sir, our conversation is confusing me...... " i rarely speak with a dom on messenger without immediately posting the chat to Master. This helps me get a man's perspective so i do not lead someone on.

i use to question why doms refused to let their subs chat with others ...if this is the reason, i fully understand now.

Men and women speak very different languages.

ok, now onto reading the rest of the forum. BUT FIRST, i have to run and read her profile. curiosity is killing me.

shy



slavedesires -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 7:44:33 AM)

sir TopCat,

i really must agree with darkpetal.
sweetlymisguided's journal does not even indicate a Marine or ownership.
i like to browse select forums and do not keep up with all peeps on here, but there are some i read cause i like what they have to say (you for instance or MistressDread and others).
so all i know of her is what she has said on this forum (so maybe i should shut up and not respond at all?) and what her profile says....which in my opinion really changes for me the nature of what my reply would be.

does one, like me, refrain from responding on any forum becasue they do not have the history of all the forums behind them? then i am being silenced? [8|]
just my thoughts sir.

i mean absolutely no disrespect.
shy

copy and pasted sweetlymisguided profile::

Life happens does it not? Life happens to all of us and choices must be made... Each choice that is made is like taking a path in the woods late at night... never knowing where you are going to end up, but always willing and ready to face whatever steps out onto the path in front of you. Ahhh yes... such is life!

12/31/2004 1:43:08 PM
Had a major bombshell dropped on me today... Not taking it all that well... So just bear with me if I seem unusually cranky/bitchy/whatever.

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9/7/2004 4:29:07 AM
The latest update will be short and sweet...

Pregnant. Due March 05.


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8/9/2004 7:37:18 PM
No longer seeking, no longer looking. My friends here are welcome to reply as always!


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7/5/2004 12:46:47 PM
For everyone who is asking... I have found a stable home with my mentor until I find what I am seeking M/s wise.


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7/1/2004 1:34:15 PM
Just wanted to add that things have finally smoothed out thanks to some wonderful friends.

Hola!




slavedesires -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 8:40:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: SweetlyMisguided

As for just wanting sympathy... Nope. My experience is a lesson to others... be VERY careful whom you trust and what you trust them with. Simple as that.

Sub you are still insisting it is more than it was... and that's your right. Everyone has the right to their own opinion so I can't say much more other than you are wrong about that. Simple enough right?



well i got your profile this am.

as to what you just wrote....i have had an expereince i never wrote about over Thanksgiving 2003.
i had long interactions, months worth, with an Austin professor (even has sites on the Internet), a dom, who after i confrotned him in person while with him, abandoned me on the dock beside his yaght (spelling) oh hell [:D] boat! in Mexico.
There will always be 2 sides of the story...mine, his and the right one, as seen/heard by God.

Did i learn a lesson, hell ya.
COMMUNICTION is pramount and men and women do NOT speak the same language.
There is a funny forum on just that in here.

Master Damian's shy



topcat -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 9:05:10 AM)

Midear Shy-

She has changed her profile- it used to begin with 'I am collared by a US Marine and very happy with him' or words to that effect in bold capitals. it changed in the past few days.

if you click right here-->not taking this well

you might understand that things changed and she has altered her profile to reflect some changes.

Stay warm,
Lawrence



SweetlyMisguided -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 9:15:02 AM)

TopCat is very correct... There is no need to question him. My profile did clearly state for months "I am collared by a US Marine" and went on to tell people to leave me the hell alone if all they wanted to do was tell me I would be better off without him since he was serving in Iraq, or telling me how they would "train" me for his return from Iraq.

Circumstances are changing as does life... Am I still collared? Perhaps... Alot is going on right now that I don't feel the need to share with the world... Henceforth, the profile has been edited and changed, and certain journal entries have been removed until things become a little clearer.



Mercnbeth -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 10:15:10 AM)

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Merc; just a little correction...she was not Dally.


VERY sorry about confusing the ID's. Sincere apologies to all concerned. I should pay more attention to ID details. I somehow mis-read that this was formerly Dally.



sweetpleaser -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 10:21:23 AM)

I'm sure it is okay. I have a hard time following also--wished they would keep their id's.



slavedesires -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/11/2005 6:08:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: topcat

Midear Shy-

She has changed her profile- it used to begin with 'I am collared by a US Marine and very happy with him' or words to that effect in bold capitals. it changed in the past few days.

if you click right here-->not taking this well

you might understand that things changed and she has altered her profile to reflect some changes.

Stay warm,
Lawrence



you are corect sir, i might ...but it still doesn't change the fact that i still there is more.

and if you felt like i questioned you, i didn't...only making statements, on what i have read as i explained, and based upon my own experience.

also, i think this could have been directed to the ask a sub/slave section ...for "our" learning through a question.

smiles softly
Master's shy



ruffnecksbabygir -> RE: Through my question may others learn (1/24/2005 8:58:20 AM)

~waves~ at Mercnbeth .... this is the slave previously known as dally [;)] thanks for clearing it up sweetpleaser : )



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