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Victorian and Old Guard - 9/7/2006 2:37:36 PM   
Pyronic


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Status: offline 		I was wondering if anyone on here would possibly have links, recommendations, or books I could  could read to learn more about Victorian and Old Guard lifestyles. Please post any information that you might have.
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RE: Victorian and Old Guard - 9/7/2006 2:45:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just as long as you realise that they are worlds apart. The Victorian Lifestyl;e is based on the Victorian Period of Queen Victoria and really looks at the upper Middle Clasds through to and including the Aristiocratic folk. The life style has many protocols based on the social etiquette of the day and is an elegant lifestyle. You could read the book or watch the DVD of Sence and Sensibility. I'll leave others who understand the Old Guard to tell you about that
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RE: Victorian and Old Guard - 9/7/2006 3:41:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pyronic

I was wondering if anyone on here would possibly have links, recommendations, or books I could  could read to learn more about Victorian and Old Guard lifestyles. Please post any information that you might have.


Victorian Information:

A description of the Victorian era courtesy of Wikipedia may be seen here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_era

There's a recent thread concerning the Victorian and Edwardian age. Many suggestions were provided including books, dvds, and websites. You may view it here:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_573458/tm.htm

BBC produced a documentary a few years ago on the recent history of European aristocracy. You can find additional details about the program here:

http://www.bbcfactual.co.uk/aristocracy.htm

Old Guard Information:
 
Wikipedia article on Leather subculture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leather_subculture
 
Joseph Bean - Old Guard? If You Say So: http://www.iron-rose.com/IR/docs/old_guard.htm

Jack Rinella - The Myth of the Old Guard: http://www.leatherviews.com/cols/column.asp?id=377

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RE: Victorian and Old Guard - 9/7/2006 5:54:31 PM   
IronBear


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Status: offline 		Thank you  porcelaine, for those links to the Victorian Lifestyle. I'm building up as much as I can to be able to teach interested people. For the Lifestyle period and not the BDSM or kink areas I do rely a great deal on my familly connections in Europe and the UK and their histories.

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RE: Victorian and Old Guard - 9/8/2006 11:29:29 AM   
porcelaine


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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Thank you  porcelaine, for those links to the Victorian Lifestyle. I'm building up as much as I can to be able to teach interested people. For the Lifestyle period and not the BDSM or kink areas I do rely a great deal on my familly connections in Europe and the UK and their histories.


You are most welcome Sir. I've been studying the period for quite some time now. Please feel free to contact me if you require additional assistance or resources.

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RE: Victorian and Old Guard - 9/8/2006 12:54:49 PM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		For other Old Guard viewpoints you might try searching the names Guy Baldwin, Viola Johnson, Jay Wiseman, Also try to get a copy of Leather Folk, by Mark Thompsom. Read a bit about the article that opened up the Old Guard in Life Magazine if you can find it (June 26, 1964).
The Leather Archives and Museum mentioned already is a really good source





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RE: Victorian and Old Guard - 9/8/2006 1:41:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Pyronic

I was wondering if anyone on here would possibly have links, recommendations, or books I could  could read to learn more about Victorian and Old Guard lifestyles. Please post any information that you might have.


Sir Stephen and slave catherine have a poly household with the "Victorian" theme.  http://www.restraining-order.com/home.htm

Some Old Guard Links:  http://www.fetishalliance.net/Stories/stories.htm   First click on BDSM & Scene Training Pages, then click on Old Guard/ New Guard Articles and Stories.

http://www.tdl.com/~thawley/oldgd.html

http://duskpeterson.com/leatherculture/bibliography/index.htm

http://www.colors-of-leather.com/

http://www.americanfetish.net/









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RE: Victorian and Old Guard - 9/10/2006 11:30:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		PBS did a mini series about the Edwardian Era called Manor House. I use the DVD's as a training tool in my house. http://www.pbs.org/manorhouse/ contains a bunch of information about the show and some of the history.

There are books still in print from the turn of the century such as Mrs Beeton's Guide to Household Management, I think that was the official title, which explain how to run house and manage a staff and what each positions duties are.

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