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The Plan - 9/13/2006 3:01:54 AM   
swtnsparkling


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I received this yesterday- 
I am not agreeing or disagreeing- just for reading interest only


Robin Williams's plan...(Hard to
Argue with this logic!)

"I see a lot of people yelling for peace,
But I have not heard of a plan for
Peace. So, here's one plan.

1) "The US will apologize to the world for our 'interference' in their affairs, past & present. You know: Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those 'good ole boys;' we will never 'interfere' again.

2) "We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany, South Korea, the Middle East, and the Philippines. They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

3) "All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days, the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

4) "All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

5) "No foreign 'students' over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a D, and it's back home, baby.

6) "The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy-wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy, but will require temporary drilling for oil in the Alaska wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

7) "Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil-producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

8) "If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not 'interfere.' They can pray to Allah, or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement, or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen or given
to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

9) "Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair-weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

10) "All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us 'Ugly Americans' any longer. The language we speak is ENGLISH...learn it...or LEAVE."

"Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?"

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer
Saying, 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat, and she's yelling, 'You want a piece of me?' "



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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 3:15:38 AM   
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Robin Williams did not say those things according to Snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp



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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 3:38:50 AM   
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I absoutely agree. The benefits to the UK in terms of not having to be the only nation in the world that has to support US foreign policy to its own detriment would be immense!

The problem with most of these policies though, is that the misunderstand the purpose of US involvement worldwide. Its not to keep the peace or anything of a philanthropic exercise - those are the reasons given and some of it goes on for sure, but the real reasons for it all, are that the US is a world rather than regional superpower on the basis of its domination of worldwide trade, and much as Britain needed the largest navy in the world to protect its own domination of the same trading a century ago, the US needs now to have troops stationed all over to achieve the same aim.
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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 5:22:15 AM   
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Corporate America would stage a coupe or move lock stock and barrel to China before that plan would be allowed to be enacted.

I find it difficult to believe Robin Williams would have said such a thing, he strikes me as cosmopolitan and probably understands the difference between people being against American foreign policy and being against America per se.

I could be wrong.

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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 7:23:31 AM   
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This is why Robin Williams is in rehab.

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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 7:38:31 AM   
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Corporate America ? Have you looked around ? All we have left are banks, insurance companies and gas stations. Biggest corporation we have is the government, HEY, what if they moved to China ?

There's another one of those emails that comes around from time to time, that one's apparently a tossup between being George Carlin or Ted Nugent.

No matter who did this one, I think it is oversimplistic. The neocons are stuck, there is no way they can simply back out.

In the next decade I believe we will become an isolationist country, when the dollar collapses we will no longer be able to afford influence over the 100s of governments we coerce with dollars. Saddam saw the future and wanted to switch to Euros, the collapse of the dollar is inevitable. Bad, bad boy.

Outsourcing offshore ? In my experience there a quite a few companies that will not deal with the government. I know a guy who lost everything because he was in arrears for about $100,000 in taxes, thing is, the government owed him over three times that amount. That doesn't wash in tax court though. That company actually blew off real customer work to get the government jobs done, and then got the priviledge of waiting and waiting for their money.

Just what does the phrase "government work" mean ?

Incidentally, illegal immigration is going to cure itself. Eventually we will be at the point where we need to work for $3 a day. As industry keeps moving out there may come a time when we need to go to Mexico for a job. Then we will be the wetbacks. What's more, all the people illegal immigrants couldn't stand will be here.

But I have faith that while the government will never put up a fence to keep illegals out, if the time is right I'm sure they will put up a fence to keep us in.

If people in these countries with high emmigration rates would just wake the fuck up and stop having 12 kids they would be fine. Let's say the birth rate in Mexico dropped to the rate of Euro-Americans, well below the replacement rate. This is well documented not only here, but in quite a few European countries. Let it happen to Mexico and they will be where we were a few decades ago, paying floor sweepers $18 an hour and engineers a few bucks less.

I doubt the Mexican government will ever switch to English or let us vote illegally in their elections, but if enough of us get there . . . . . .They would probably make us wetbacks enlist in their army to earn citizenship, thus making them a superpower. Then they can go occupy a bunch of countries. God forbid any of our better bomb builders are put out of work, Mexico could give them their equivalent of an H1B visa.

Thing is, if Mexico goes stomping around the world like we do, there is a slim chance that they might put Mexican interests first. I've long given up any hope of the US government putting US interests first.

Here's how the government works (you may quote this):

Say you own a casino and let some idiot relative of yours run it. Almost everybody has at least one idiot relative, if not use a friend. At times the boss in a casino will sit down at a high stakes poker game and gamble. If he is an accomplished gambler there is not that much danger, but remember he is an idiot. Draws to inside straights, throws away four card flushes, all that good shit. He bets on instinct, which he lacks.

Well, it doesn't matter to him because he can always go in the back and grab more chips. You've seen in the movies where the owner of a casino says "The only thing I have to offer is the ownership of the casino itself". Well in that case the guy lost, but he knew what he was doing. It might've been a very bad night even if he is a highly competent gambler, but he knows that it happened.

In the case of your stupid friend or relative, he has already lost the casino and doesn't even know it. When the winner gets up and cashes in his chips, the money is not there. Oops.

Whether it's Robin Williams, Robin Trower or Daffy Duck who wrote that, the content is still valid. All the things we don't like about this situation will change. Sooner or later one of the players is going to walk up to the window with his boodle of chips and then the fun starts.

Now let's say the federal reserve is a casino and this happens. Gotta print up a bunch of money, kinda like when the guy at the casino had to go into the back room for more chips. But now, for everybody, the chips have a lower value. All the customers bitch and leave, which exaserbates the situation. Print more money.

Let's try on the new prices shall we ? Loaf of bread $7, 20" TV set $400, stripped down four cylinder pickup truck $65,000, a new two bedroom house on a 32' X 50' lot in the inner city $350,000. Meantime you're still making $40,000 a year.

Compared to the pre-depression dollar, what we have today is worth about a nickel. As I said before, you need to make $200 a day to make a dollar a day. I fall short of that, how about you ? For a five day week that is $52,000 a year. Granted it is not that much money, but figure it into the new prices. Yet you will continue to toil, delay your retirement, forget certain vacations. The net effect is to take things away from YOU.

People with real money keep it in several currencies, so they are a bit insulated from these effects. Of course there is always gold, but they can make it illegal for us at any time.

In the brave new world there won't be any need for gun control, people won't be able to AFFORD guns. Watch and see. It will take the whole family fortune to pay for their best and brightest to emmigrate from the US to say, Europe, get a good job and start sending money back to get more plane tickets for their family members. Remember the new prices. If you make $40,000 a year and a loaf of bread is $7 and your rent is $3,000 a month, that $12,000 for a plane ticket is a bit hard to come by.

Perhaps I'm clairvoyant, seems I just heard someone think "Wonder what gas is". Off the top of my head, probably $20 a gallon. How the devaluation of the dollar affects the prices of any given commodity is hard to figure. Real estate makes a good yardstick.

Absent any other changes, if you buy a house for $20,000 and fifteen years later nothing has changed, no major improvements to the property or the neighborhood but it's worth $60,000 now, the main thing affecting that dollar value is the value of the dollar itself. The real value of the property is simply broken up into smaller pieces.

This will happen anytime thieves print the money.

I write this because I wanted to delve a bit deeper into the roots of this problem. This is how they steal, see, you actually have more dollars than you used to, so the theft is undetected. The rich have alot lot more Rubles, Zlaty, Francs, Marks, Euros, Yen, Shekels, Pounds. You however, on the other hand, have less wealth.

I haven't much to offer up as to a solution, but I do have ideas. Remembering the words of a hillbilly song "I'm addicted to a dollar, that ain't worth a dime".

Peaceful protest will not work, armed conflict will not work. Not today. I say that each and every one of us needs to break our dollar addiction. If alot of people did this there would be a surge in the economy, for example, get the house paid off, all the real estate, burn the creditr cards. Only pay the secured notes. Get your bills down and have the kids learn the virtue of $6 tennis shoes, and books instead of a $75 video game.

Break the cycle, this will destroy the tax base in a way they can't fix. You can't tax a person more than they have, it's been tried. Of course they might, but they'll never get it. OK things might get rough, but what else is there to do ? Get your bills down, continue to rake in the dollars for a time and get all the important shit paid off. Then go to work and tell them you are semi-retiring. Get into a lower tax bracket. Deal in cash, but buy things that are worth something. Guns and gold come to mind, but even gold is actually useless, except you might be able to sell it later. You can't eat it. How much you put into gold should be based on your perception of just how far this is going to go.

Think of other things, generator, propane (and a set of jets for your furnace), gasoline, WATER, FOOD (non perishables). The list goes on, but is not going to be exhaustive here. After a time you are ready. If alot of people do this, the government will no longer be able to pay the interest on the debt. As they pay their "swarm of officers to harrass our People", the value of that pay dwindles. They will be waaay more susceptible to bribes, and friends, you won't even need money.

Remember the propane, guns, food, knowing how to fix their car. All things of real value, which they have not. Things that are now so expensive to buy they can no longer afford it. Now you have like a "black market" source of money with which to pay the few bills you really still need money for, like if the utility companies are still in business or something. But then you are not doing anything illegal and you didn't steal the stuff so you're in the clear.

Inflation is a cleansing force. Big money leaves but the People are forced to rebuild the wealth of the country. Ridiculous inflation has happened, like when Poland simply lopped a few zeros off their currency. It happened in Germany before that, and you know what the result was.

Some Russians had a saying, when they were living under communism "They pretend to pay us, so we pretend to work". Why did they lose the cold war ? They were a machine sabotaged from within. It happens.

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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 10:30:38 AM   
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I kinda like the plan.   Lets become isolationists.   Put mines and troops on our borders to stop illegal immegration.  Quit sending aid overseas, kick the UN out with all their diplomats.  close all embassy's and bring the diplomats home.  Quit buying goods and services overseas and stop international trade.  Put Americans back to work. quit being the worlds policemen.  Strengthen our military so that when they get pissed at us we can kick their butts off our shores.   Use the scorched earth policy (bigger and better nukes mounted on missles to keep troop losses down) to retaliate against those that incur against us.   Hey lets go for it.

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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 2:06:56 PM   
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swtnsparkling said.

3) "All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days, the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

Dont do that or the French will build a camp near to the Channel Tunnel entrance so they can jump a train and land in UK. Then we will  have to ship them back to the US . Problem is we have got loads of Admirals but not many ships.lol

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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 3:20:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

swtnsparkling said.

3) "All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days, the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

Dont do that or the French will build a camp near to the Channel Tunnel entrance so they can jump a train and land in UK. Then we will  have to ship them back to the US . Problem is we have got loads of Admirals but not many ships.lol



ROFL   maybe you should look at force restructureing and unload the admirals or ship them off to France to oversee the train jumpers.   LOL

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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 3:54:06 PM   
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umm - swtnsparkling didnt say anything.
I just posted some thing I got in email.
I thought parts of it was interesting. Some one else thought it up with and wrote it.

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RE: The Plan - 9/13/2006 5:02:33 PM   
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Actually...I think if we just sent our own (CM) troops over (where ever there is trouble) we could end the world crisis.
-Send our own "Jess Powers" over as the head interrogator, if she is a sadistic as she thinks she is...everyone would talk and spout out all the information anyone needed for a long time.
-Make anyone who argued with our ways of thinking, sit and read "James the rug guy's" posts...after a couple hours of that and they would give up their borders and scream peace at the top of their lungs.
-If that doesn't work, let ole "Whips da Hip" jump in and tell them tales of how he was this and that, and lived then, or was that now (who knows) and how he really knows it all and probably even knows what they are going to do before even they know it themselves, so resistence would be futile.
After all that..I am sure that most countries will band together for the common good, just to halt the torture...lol.
 
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RE: The Plan - 9/14/2006 4:31:01 AM   
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  awesome plan 
          lol

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RE: The Plan - 9/14/2006 7:30:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

Actually...I think if we just sent our own (CM) troops over (where ever there is trouble) we could end the world crisis.
-Send our own "Jess Powers" over as the head interrogator, if she is a sadistic as she thinks she is...everyone would talk and spout out all the information anyone needed for a long time.
-Make anyone who argued with our ways of thinking, sit and read "James the rug guy's" posts...after a couple hours of that and they would give up their borders and scream peace at the top of their lungs.
-If that doesn't work, let ole "Whips da Hip" jump in and tell them tales of how he was this and that, and lived then, or was that now (who knows) and how he really knows it all and probably even knows what they are going to do before even they know it themselves, so resistence would be futile.
After all that..I am sure that most countries will band together for the common good, just to halt the torture...lol.
 
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RE: The Plan - 9/14/2006 8:06:07 AM   
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The thing is, the US economy depends on immigrants and illegal aliens.  Without them, there would be no produce, no taxis, no 7/11's, no Dell or AOL tech support.  Prices would skyrocket to accomate the increased labour costs.  I do not know, but do you really want to get rid of them?

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