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what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/13/2006 4:11:07 PM   
LillieRose


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Status: offline 		She wishes to know more about sadism so that she may understand....will you share with her your knowledge of this part of the lifestyle?
Thank you....LillieRose
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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/13/2006 4:38:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		you might better ask what a sexual sadist is not; but, I'll accept that you're serious and divulge a few of My closely held super-duper secrets from the Magnificent Master's Manual of Mentoring. lol
  Let Me first seperate sexual sadist from that of sensual sadist, the latter is definitely different from the first, but only appreciably if you encounter these animals in a public setting, or sane level of play time.
  Sensual saidist like Me tend to take great pleasure from inflicting erotic pain that causes a girls senses to reel and to induce orgasms for orgasms sakes. heheheee
  The other can be dangerous or not, it depends on the person, but the same stands true for the latter. Oh My, does that mean that one should reserve judgement about which is for you? I would hope so, jumping into an arrangement with a stranger where you'll be restrained, breast bound, suspended, gagged, and repeatedly violated could be traumatic. wefg
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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/13/2006 4:57:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Despite Gentry's interesting, yet slightly overromantic and blatantly seductive natured response, I'll go for the more direct approach.

It could be a person who gets sexually aroused directly due to the suffering of others, usually caused by their hands.

It could also refer to becoming excited directly due to the sexual suffering of others, usually caused by their hands.

But sadist is definitely someone who gains pleasure directly from others actual pain.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_525044/mpage_1/key_sadism/tm.htm#525222
sadist

http://www.collarchat.com/m_564318/mpage_2/key_sadism/tm.htm#564972
sadistic tastes

http://www.collarchat.com/m_576188/mpage_1/key_sadism/tm.htm#576380
what is mental sadism?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_429407/mpage_2/key_sadism/tm.htm#430569
question for the sadists out there?



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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/13/2006 5:10:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		let me see if I can put it another way . sadism is like a box of chocolates .... you never know what flavor your gonna get but .... you know your getting chocolate .. sadism carries many different names . but ... its Sadism . wether sensual sexual mental physical ... rocky road .. I would prolly go with LA on this

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/13/2006 6:13:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well rather than confuse you further with the "There is no one definition crowd", I'll opt for the simpler approach. Textbook sexual sadism is when someone gets a sexual thrill/ excitement from the suffering of another. That said masochists are the "enemy" for lack of a better word, not the perfect match for a sexual sadist. As a freind of mine likes to tell people "I'm a sexual sadist if you're enjoying it I'm not having my fun yet. It's when you stop enjoying it that it gets interesting for me." Masochists just make a sadist work harder to reach the point where they get thier jollies.

That said who makes a good match for a sexual sadist? If we look at it from that POV someone who gets a different kind of satisfaction from enduring pain and suffering for their partner. Someone who gets the delayed satisfaction of enduring it for their partner. Funny as it may sound service oriented people make good matches for sadists. his of course assumes we are opperating in the legal and ethical world of consent and well being of both parties being central to the relationship.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/13/2006 11:21:18 PM   
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Example of Sexual Sadism:

The sadist (male or female) get you so hot under the collar that steem is screachuing out your ears, the blood is pumping so hard you are close to bursting a blood vessel, your sence of reason is way out the window and either you and dripping wet or your cock is so hard and throbbing that you are in agony and need a warm wet place to shove it for relief and the sadist laughts at you and tells you to piss off you pathetic thing...... Females of the genre' used to be call "Prick Teasers"....<< I'm told that this is why the Kiwis have such a close affinity with sheep (Jk)>>

This is something which 99.99% of male teenagers have experienced at least once in their lives..


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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/13/2006 11:46:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LillieRose

She wishes to know more about sadism so that she may understand....will you share with her your knowledge of this part of the lifestyle?
Thank you....LillieRose


A sexual sadist is one who derives sexual pleasure from inflicting physical or emotional suffering.

The sounds of your pretty female whimpers rouses and hardens me.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/14/2006 2:06:46 AM   
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  Making light of sensually driven sadism, that which takes pleasure from imparting the exquisiteness of purposeful pain, should be illegal and a class slutty eleven-teen felony. wefg
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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/14/2006 3:03:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you Masters/Mistress for your insights...they are very helpful to her...LillieRose

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/17/2006 12:12:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LillieRose

She wishes to know more about sadism so that she may understand....will you share with her your knowledge of this part of the lifestyle?
Thank you....LillieRose


A suggestion sweetie....Contact profiles that say "domiant sadist seeking real submissive/slave" and ask your questions. 

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/17/2006 12:36:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		A sexual sadist is a redundancy. A sadist gains sexual gratification through the infliction of physical or mental pain upon others. That is of course if you do not subscribe to the whimsical policy of making up your own BDSM definitions as you go along. If this is the case, a sadist is a '57 Chevy.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/17/2006 1:02:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		A suggestion sweetie....Contact profiles that say "domiant sadist seeking real submissive/slave" and ask your questions. 


Thank you...I will.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/18/2006 4:50:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BrutalAntipathy

A sexual sadist is a redundancy. A sadist gains sexual gratification through the infliction of physical or mental pain upon others. That is of course if you do not subscribe to the whimsical policy of making up your own BDSM definitions as you go along. If this is the case, a sadist is a '57 Chevy.


Ya know something tho....Ive had my ass kicked pretty fucking bad by a sadist who, if he was turned on sexually, certainly didnt show it, or...do anything about it.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/18/2006 10:04:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a Sadist, but that doesn't mean I like to hurt every person I meet. What I do is seek out those who desire pain. I like to administer measured amounts of pain with measured amounts of extasy. I think that's where the term sexual sadist comes from, it's someone who marries pain and pleasure and does it remarkably well.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/19/2006 12:09:04 AM   
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quote:

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ORIGINAL: BrutalAntipathy

A sexual sadist is a redundancy. A sadist gains sexual gratification through the infliction of physical or mental pain upon others. That is of course if you do not subscribe to the whimsical policy of making up your own BDSM definitions as you go along. If this is the case, a sadist is a '57 Chevy.


Ya know something tho....Ive had my ass kicked pretty fucking bad by a sadist who, if he was turned on sexually, certainly didnt show it, or...do anything about it.



Then I would contend that while the person may be a Sadist they were possibly not a sexual sadist. Sadist gets satisfaction from it while a sexual sadist gets a sexual satisfaction.

I'm much more a Sadist than a sexual Sadist, while I sometimes ge a sexual charge out of it there are more often other satisfactions I get from it.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/19/2006 3:59:58 AM   
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I'm much more a Sadist than a sexual Sadist, while I sometimes ge a sexual charge out of it there are more often other satisfactions I get from it.

this is much like Master is. Master does not get a sexual charge out of seeing his slave in pain; he does however get a deep satisfaction from knowing that this slave 'endures' it for him. A good example is when Master uses clamps on this slave. Master knows that when she see's them, she desperatly wants to beg him to not use them, yet this slave does not. The pain from the clamps brings tears to this slave's eyes; this gives Master a deep sense of pride in his slave  More often than not, after such pain infliction, Master desires nothing more than to hold his slave and comfort her through the pain .

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/19/2006 9:20:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Archer

Then I would contend that while the person may be a Sadist they were possibly not a sexual sadist. Sadist gets satisfaction from it while a sexual sadist gets a sexual satisfaction.

I'm much more a Sadist than a sexual Sadist, while I sometimes ge a sexual charge out of it there are more often other satisfactions I get from it.


Very true!   I fall under the classification of a sexual physical sadist in that inflictng mental or emotional pain in NOT totally satisfactory for me,  yet inflicting actual physical pain truly gets me WET!

I might also add that I found your comments, Archer, on masochists not being completely satisfactory for most sadists to be true, but only to a certain extent and not for all, as I adore inflicting pain but I adore it more when torturing someone who also sexualizes the pain as a masochist does -- again to each their own, but I agree the challenge of causing pain is greater than in some a non-masochist.

Interesting, indeed!!!


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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/19/2006 11:25:51 AM   
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what i view here is primarily a mix of clinical sadism vs  BDSM interrpretations of sadism.

clinical sadists tend to definitely be dangerous and often are sociopathtic.

sadistic people in a purely S&M sense (under the tenets of  S& M) merely enjoy inflicting pain, however, it is not their ONLY source of gratification.

sexual sadists are often the former. sociopathic and ONLY getting their  ONLY source of gratification from inflicting pain on others.

myself.. i'm a sadistic woman. i have sadistic penchants or propensities.. i'm not ENTIRELY a sadist in the sense that i can only derive gratification from inflicting pain on others.

what i see here is a mix of the two.

clinically a sadist is ENTIRELY different than a S&M sorta BDSM sorta sadist.

clinical sadists are dangerous. think serial killer.. think black dahlia.. think sociopath or serial killer using someone to get off on.

yes, it's entirely different.

sorta like fetishes.

MOST people that claim to a fetishist in the BDSM sense aren't truly fetishists, rather they ENJOY an activity. instead.. CLINICAL fetishists NEED said fetish to gain sexual gratification.

there is a HUGE umbrella under which BDSM falls. yeah i like feet, yeah i like causing pain. is that my ONLY source of fulfillment?.. no.

clinical sadists are DEFINITELY not the ones you want to play with.

myself, i am a S&M sadistic sorta person. i don't get *off* on using my slaves or bottoms (yes there is a difference between bottom/Top and D/s sorta interaction).. but i dont NEED them to get off.

like i mentioned before.. a fetish in the clinical sense is considered an afflication by therapists. it's something that must persist for at least 6 months and MUST be the ONLY source of gratification.

with that being said, many of us like XYZ.. it's not a *fetish* in the clinical sense.

i'm talking men that can't get through the work day without seeing a woman's feet and wanting to lick it.. then licking it.

yes.. that afflicts then and will bombard their daily lives.

if ANYONE runs across a TRUE sadist.

i'd say RUN.

they have NO compassion for human suffering and their victims (yes victims) have no say.

a sadistic person (in the BDSM non clinical sense).. will only take willing participants.

such as myself.

am i sadistic? yes.

am i a sadist?.

no

i can be sensual to my slaves.. the ones whom are NOT masochistic. but do i feel the need to inflict pain on those i feel CANNOT take it?

once again no.

a TRUE clinical sadist.. wouldn't take no for an answer

i know i'm not a master.. but as someone with  sadistic tendancies..

i had to post

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/19/2006 2:01:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suppose that I should write the editors of Oxford and Merriam Webster dictionaries and let them know that they need to change the definition of sadist. Think they might be willing to add the '57 Chevy definition to the list?
 
I am also amazed to discover that I am a dangerous serial killer. I'll be sure to tell the 60+ patients that place their lives in my hands 5 days a week that they are no longer safe. Funny, as up until now, despite my enjoying the pain of others regardless as to whether they wanted it or not, I have always managed to keep the infliction of pain under control and limit myself to willing partners. Frightening to find out that I now have to display sociopathic behavior with it.

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RE: what is a sexual Sadist? - 9/19/2006 5:35:50 PM   
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if you ONLY derive sexual gratification from HURTING people.. then yes you are a sadist and you are dangerous. (in the PURELY clinical sense.. and yes i did make that stipulation).

in a BDSM sense (which hopefully) you're talking about.. then i also said that there is a HUGE difference.

a TRUE CLINICAL sadist IS indeed and infact dangerous.

sociopathic.

i'm speaking purely based upon the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM IV) defintion of sadist. some things aren't touched upon in the good old merriam webster. fetishes, SM all that good stuff is classified as a mental disorder (which obviously i don't agree with.. that was my thesis at my university..).. HOWEVER.. some are rightly classified as such.

if you're sadistic in the BDSM sense then OBVIOUSLY what i said does not apply to you.

if you feel you are CLINICALLY sadistic and you have to *limit* your urges to willing participants,  then i would suggest people stay the fuck away from you.

if you have sadistic TENDANCIES.. but you don't snatch unwitting victims off the street to torture them.. then are you  are sadist in the BDSM sense.

NOT a sadist in the sense that inflicting pain is your ONLY source of sexual gratification.

check your facts and read the WHOLE post before you *attempt* to either engage someone OR reply.

i made obvious distinctions between the two.

you however apparently chose to ignore them.

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