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Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 7:57:34 AM   
CrappyDom


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Princeton shows how it is done, as someone who has worked on those machines, the techs were calling them "hacker friendly"!

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 8:18:43 AM   
Chaingang


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Everybody is overthinking this, and I can shut down every single consipracy theory or video or other such bullshit with one very tiny, single, and damn simple thought.

If any of this shit was true, do you really think the government would just let any stain with a computer be able to send it every which way? And even then dont you think the governemnt would have pulled the plug on any of these things the second it came into existance?



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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 8:23:11 AM   
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I am not stating anything about 9/11 as a fact, I am entirely open to all info as it comes in. My point is that I haven't closed the book on the subject as many seem to have done.


You are the left wing equivelent of SirKennin.

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 8:29:46 AM   
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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 8:40:03 AM   
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I'm so sorry to hear someone has stolen your erections, but its important not to jump to conclusions here. Perhaps you just left them somewhere.... have you tried looking for them? Where and when did you last have them?

I would help, but I have to see my counsellor now. I'm sure you will be happy to hear that my dyslexia is improving though.

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 9:33:50 AM   
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im not a ahcker- but i do know a guy ild bet 1k he could hack into those machines...

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 10:05:44 AM   
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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 5:37:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwWP-N1HqT0

Princeton shows how it is done, as someone who has worked on those machines, the techs were calling them "hacker friendly"!


Ahhh.  So the Republicans just got to the machines first.

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:08:09 PM   
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Ahhh.  So the Republicans just got to the machines first.


I think you are being flip - and that's cool, it's crazy to think it has come to this. But yeah, these devices make a nonsense of the processes of our democratic republic. Elections can be and are being stolen in all likelihood. But this is not the road we want to be on.


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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:17:31 PM   
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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:30:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just have to laugh sometimes. If Gore had won his home state, and if Kerry had had any kind of clue, none of you would even be talking about rigged elections today. And if any Republican had complained about voter irregularities, you all would have laughed and told them to get over it.
There have always been voter irregularities. I dare anyone to show me an election where everything went perfect.
I am no fan of Richard Nixon, but when informed of possible voter fraud in Chicago when he lost against Kennedy, he didn't whine like a baby, or go to court. He accepted the results for the good of the country.
I have never seen such a bunch of whiny crybabies. You lost the last two elections. Get over it, and get ready to lose the next one.

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:34:44 PM   
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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:42:14 PM   
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Bush was the one that went to court...not Gore


Sorry, you are wrong. Gore went to court to get the votes recounted. Regardless, if Gore and Kerry had won, you wouldn't be complaining about stolen elections. You want to be wrong on that too?

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:53:04 PM   
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I dare anyone to show me an election where everything went perfect. 


In 2002, there was a Presidential election in the Congo, where Denis Sassou Nguesso won with 100% of the vote. A few weeks before the election, the warlord banned his two chief rivals from the ballot. One of these men turned up dead. The last challenger, Andre Milongo,  mysteriously decided to pull out, but insisted, ."My withdrawal is not a pretext for disorder. Elections should not be confused with armed struggle."
 
This seems to have gone as close to perfect as Mr. Nguesso could have planned ... other than the Congo being so close to Chad.

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:54:29 PM   
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if Gore and Kerry had won, you wouldn't be complaining about stolen elections.



       Likely not Estring, but the Republicans sure as hell would have been.  Maybe Bush would have shown more grace than Gore,  but the same people who screamed Clinton wasn't legit because Perot split the conservative vote wouldn't have.  I hate to think what kind of mess Gore would have us in after 9/11.

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 6:55:15 PM   
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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 7:00:33 PM   
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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 7:46:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Estring
if Gore and Kerry had won, you wouldn't be complaining about stolen elections.



      Likely not Estring, but the Republicans sure as hell would have been.  Maybe Bush would have shown more grace than Gore,  but the same people who screamed Clinton wasn't legit because Perot split the conservative vote wouldn't have.  I hate to think what kind of mess Gore would have us in after 9/11.


And I would have been down on the Republicans if they did complain. And for damn sure Bush would have (and did) show more grace than Gore.
If Gore had won, he would be trying to get Al Queada to use low emission bombs. Lol.

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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 8:42:54 PM   
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If Gore and Kerry had won...I would NOT be complaing.


It all depends on what kind of president he turned out to be. I think politicians are mainly of one kind, their particular political stripe is just decoration.

The point of an idea like "eternal vigilance" is to keep those assholes on their toes and busy as actual public servants.

How far the country has fallen.


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RE: Stolen Elections? - 9/14/2006 8:45:50 PM   
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