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strob -> Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 3:28:03 PM)
As a follow-up to this post, I was wondering if there are any Dommes that like their subd weak and spinless, with no right to have their own opinion, with no rights at all...subs that only know to say "yes Mistress, yes Mistress, ys Mistress..."

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 3:33:42 PM)
Yes I would very much like to own a slave/lover, but not a weak and spineless one. I would love one who (like TammyJo's slave) never says no, but is permitted to respectfully disagree/give me information he feels I need. So A smart and strong man would be that much sexier while being servile. Editted because I misunderstood the question initially. [8\|] M

Lashra -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 5:36:53 PM)
Nope ~Lashra

SweetDommes -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 5:39:58 PM)
I know of a few who are of the "I want a worm" variety, so they do exist ... however, if I want a worm, it's because I'm going fishing, not because I actually want a worm.

MochaMistress -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 6:01:56 PM)
No I have no desire for a spinless weak submissive. No place for such in my life. MM

PhoenixMoon -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 6:53:30 PM)
I have zero interest in such a slave. I have actually dismissed many for just such behavior. Submission does not equate with spineless and ignorant.

DreamyLadySnow -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 7:10:01 PM)
SweetDommes said it all. LS

LadyWhisper -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/14/2006 8:49:21 PM)
Ummm...let me think...hmm...No. Those are the types of slaves you chain in the basement, for own sexual pleasures, I have met a few like this, and it just doesn't excite me at all. I will only have a slave with a brain and a spine. Lady Whisper

mons -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 12:46:16 AM)
greetings no has to be able to talk with me most be smart and no fools mons

EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 1:16:38 AM)
who wants a person that acquiesces or subjugate themselves so readily? knowing your place is ONE thing.. feigning some supposed struggle is another. i don't personally tolerate the "i need to be broken" bullshit. you come to me you know your place. with that being said.. being a blatant doormat is another. i prefer Alpha males to submit to me. males that the average public would NOT even guess for a MINUTE is a slave. if someone is a sub to anyone.. a wimp to anyone.. a pussy to anyone.. a doormat rug to anyone other than ME.. what the fuck do i want them for? what are they giving me that the average person on the street doesn't see? or receive? if they give anyone that walks by, the same submission and relinquishing of self to any domme or anyone.. then what am i getting special? i sincerely hope Dominants (male or female).. don't want a door mat, spineless subordinate.. yeah, they're less work, but what is sacred if it's given freely to anything with a whip? if they're a doormat to anyone else.. then what are we, as dominants, getting special from them? my 2 cents.

MisPandora -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 6:02:58 AM)
Enough of us didn't say NO in that thread????? Again, the answer is No.

MsKatHouston -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 8:12:29 AM)
I think we have a unanimous opinion here thusfar. No.

LaTigresse -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 8:15:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess who wants a person that acquiesces or subjugate themselves so readily? knowing your place is ONE thing.. feigning some supposed struggle is another. i don't personally tolerate the "i need to be broken" bullshit. you come to me you know your place. with that being said.. being a blatant doormat is another. i prefer Alpha males to submit to me. males that the average public would NOT even guess for a MINUTE is a slave. if someone is a sub to anyone.. a wimp to anyone.. a pussy to anyone.. a doormat rug to anyone other than ME.. what the fuck do i want them for? what are they giving me that the average person on the street doesn't see? or receive? if they give anyone that walks by, the same submission and relinquishing of self to any domme or anyone.. then what am i getting special? i sincerely hope Dominants (male or female).. don't want a door mat, spineless subordinate.. yeah, they're less work, but what is sacred if it's given freely to anything with a whip? if they're a doormat to anyone else.. then what are we, as dominants, getting special from them? my 2 cents. Pretty much my opinion.......cept no males..[:'(]

Phoenixandnika -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 8:41:12 AM)
No, if I wanted a doormat I would go to walmart. Though I have meet my share of Dom/mes who look for doormats, in my opinion it is because they can not "master" a stronger person.

MysticFireTopaz -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 9:04:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: strob As a follow-up to this post, I was wondering if there are any Dommes that like their subd weak and spinless, with no right to have their own opinion, with no rights at all...subs that only know to say "yes Mistress, yes Mistress, ys Mistress..." No, I like an intelligent man who can carry on a stimulating conversation. Hearing "yes, Mistress," "yes, Mistress," "yes, Mistress" all day long would get rather tiresome. Lady Topaz

LadyHugs -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 9:11:52 AM)
Dear strob, Ladies and Gentlemen; I find that slaves who have spines, have an easier time in carrying items and standing. As many toy bags I have, not counting luggage, weak isn't going to move those bags for me. Why have a weak slave if I still have to tow my goodies? Of course, a spineless slave might be interesting...they would have their heads closer together and perhaps service one head and easier to put their body into a bow-tie. Arms be so low, at least they could sweep the floor while they walk. Also, might actually be able to clean themselves better but, would have to stretch the slave out on a rack to iron out all the folds, wrinkles and such. Might be interesting through to pack into luggage a spineless slave and then shake 'em out and ...well, who knows what spineless slaves do other than compress into the hip. [Chuckles] Make an awful lumpy rug though--hip joints and the phallus, the balls get in the way. Respectfully submitted with a lot of wit, Lady Hugs

ToGiveDivine -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 9:50:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyHugs Dear strob, Ladies and Gentlemen; I find that slaves who have spines, have an easier time in carrying items and standing. As many toy bags I have, not counting luggage, weak isn't going to move those bags for me. Why have a weak slave if I still have to tow my goodies? Of course, a spineless slave might be interesting...they would have their heads closer together and perhaps service one head and easier to put their body into a bow-tie. Arms be so low, at least they could sweep the floor while they walk. Also, might actually be able to clean themselves better but, would have to stretch the slave out on a rack to iron out all the folds, wrinkles and such. Might be interesting through to pack into luggage a spineless slave and then shake 'em out and ...well, who knows what spineless slaves do other than compress into the hip. [Chuckles] Make an awful lumpy rug though--hip joints and the phallus, the balls get in the way. Respectfully submitted with a lot of wit, Lady Hugs As I've said on other topics - your posts are fantastic and hilarious. I have to imagine that your subs find you to be more serious at other times and them finding you humorous would be inappropriate ;-) It's refreshing to talk with serious people who don't always take themselves too seriously [:)]

LadyHugs -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/15/2006 10:45:23 AM)
Dear ToGiveDivine, Ladies and Gentlemen; You wrote; quote: ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine As I've said on other topics - your posts are fantastic and hilarious. I have to imagine that your subs find you to be more serious at other times and them finding you humorous would be inappropriate ;-) It's refreshing to talk with serious people who don't always take themselves too seriously [:)] There are times to be serious and a time to be one's cheerful self. If everybody forgets to have fun in this lifestyle and in life itself, it is sad and wouldn't be fun or worthwhile to enjoy. The same can be said for submissives and slaves. Part of the spineless thread, if slaves and submissives forget how to live, to laugh, to have a bit of wit--they have lost a part of their soul. The boring hum of a spineless and or weak submissive/slave, after a while; even the Yes Ma'am, Yes Mistress, Yes Master and or other title, would loose its meaning. It would be a better investment in getting a naked plastic blow up doll. Besides, a plastic blow up doll that is naked doesn't eat, sleep, always hangs around, doesn't need clothes or needs the toilet same time you do. Respectfully submitted with a tad of wit, Lady Hugs

Samwhiplash -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/16/2006 3:42:41 PM)
f*ck no. I want a MAN not a mouse. He wld hve to be a strong individual to be able to survive wth me ;-)

MistressDolly -> RE: Re: "Does being a sub mean you have to be weak and Spinless? " (9/16/2006 9:06:00 PM)
Greetings Strob, First, I believe you're referring to "slaves", not subs. Real slaves relinquish all their rights, wants and desires, subs do not. And second, I don't think a slave who says "yes Mistress" is weak and spinless. It is difficult to give up all your rights and completely live for someone else. We are creatures of Survival and it goes against our innate grain to completely surrender our needs, wants and desires to someone else. I don't know about you, but I couldn't do it. It's hard and takes a whole lotta of training. Fondly, Dolly

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