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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 7:26:50 AM   
LadyEllen


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hmmmm. I cant help but think that receiving correction from the teacher after class is a victory for seeks.....

Perhaps not receiving correction but would be a better means of correction?
E

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 7:58:43 AM   
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I would not expect any problems on either the language or the cultural front.

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 9:00:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

Now you do realize.. that being An American going to school in your own country... you will be expected to learn Both THEIR languages fluently.



I'd better explain this one.   I have no qualms that the roommates will speak better English than we Americans do.  I was being snarky in a subtle reference to the immigration/learn MY language situation we have going on here in the SW.

Just ignore me.. it was ill placed.

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 9:23:48 AM   
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Lotus! How could you write such things! In pennance, you should spend the evening learning Spanish irregular verbs LOL!

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 9:28:22 AM   
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Lotus! How could you write such things! In pennance, you should spend the evening learning Spanish irregular verbs LOL!

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 9:40:40 AM   
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Ah comprendo. No soy si bien en espagnol. Donde esta la buro de social benefits por favor?

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 11:41:29 AM   
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I thought I got your drift Lady E: tho' I did have to look up sich ergeben. I bet you went to school in Germany ?

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 3:16:55 PM   
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Rock on!  I love listening to Rammstein, even though I do not
speak more than a few words of German.


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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

As Ramstein (the rock group names after the US airbase of the same name.) say

We're all living in America,
America ist wunderbar.
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.
We're all living in America,
Coca-Cola, Wonderbra,
We're all living in America,
Amerika, Amerika.



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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 3:21:16 PM   
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Yes, I have had other foreign exchange roommates over the years,
1 from Paris, France; another from Tokyo, Japan; and last year
1 from Upsala, Sweden.  It is a blast to watch all the guys beating
a path to their door when the foreign exchange girls arrive!
 
And those folks from Scandinavia are usually either big and tall
or big and strapping.


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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig
Why didn't I think of that???
I don't know about rivalries, but wouldn't mind being stuck in a small space with two strappin' europeans.   M


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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 3:30:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

Sounds like fun!

About the only wars I can think of between these two countries would be the period of the Vikings and the 30 years' war in the seventeenth century (basically protestants vs catholics) where Sweden was a major player, Germany was divided between the two camps and also provided much of the battleground. The Swedes may also have become involved in the disagreements between parts of and then the whole of Germany, and Denmark over the years too as Denmark and Sweden have been one kingdom at times over the centuries. In more recent conflicts, Sweden has been neutral, though it was a major player in the supply of war materials to Germany. Nowadays, both countries are members of the EU; Germany is a founder member and for a long time Sweden (along with UK, Ireland, Austria, Switzerland and its Scandinavian neighbours) were members of the rival trading block known as EFTA. EFTA has gradually broken up in more recent years, as its members have drifted into EU membership instead. Sweden joined the EU (I believe) in the mid to late 1990s, though the vote to do so was narrow. The Swedes' best friends are its neighbours, Norway, Denmark and Finland, along with Iceland (also Scandinavian in populace if not by geography), although even so there is fierce rivalry between them due to one or the other dominating the rest at some time in history. Finland was formerly colonised by Sweden and there is still a small number of Swedish speakers in Finland. Amongst its Scandinavian family, Sweden is probably the least liked by the others due to its former power in the region and also because its language though related to the rest (apart from Finnish), is sufficiently different for the others to say that the Swedes "talk funny". Germany meanwhile is best friends these days with its old enemy, France in political terms and these two countries have built a strong relationship despite past conflicts. I will assume you are familiar with more recent history, but Germany was founded as a single state only in 1918 after the first world war (until then Bavaria was still effectively independent). The move to a single state in the mid to late 19th century from a collection of smaller states, is the root of German nationalism and also provoked the arms race and international tensions that provided the fuel for the first world war. Germany is also friends with Switzerland (majority Germans speaking) and Austria (German speaking), although certainly the Austrians tend to dislike the Germans and see them as a domineering bigger brother. Whatever the political situation, the Germans as people do not like the French in particular, east Europeans in general and do tend to be assertive people, which comes across as arrogance to the rest of us in Europe. Meanwhile the rest of Europe still has mixed feelings at best about the Germans.

Wow!  Thank you Lady Ellen for all of that information.

As many have said, I dont think you will have any problems with language; Swedes it seems must learn English from a very early age as they all seem to speak our language as well as us (only the Dutch outdo them!). Germans meanwhile also learn English from an early age, and though English as a second language is not as widespread in Germany as it is in Sweden, a student choosing to come to the US would suggest to me someone either competent in English already or someone wanting to learn.

The results with the other foreign exchange young ladies
over the years have been mixed; some spoke English very well,
others have had a hard time in the classroom but been passable
in social settings.
 
Of course there are the inevitable social blunders when their
slang comes from watching "The Simpson's" and "South Park".
Try explaining, without embarrassing anyone, the difference
between a "dirt bag" and a "douche bag"!  


Culturally, Germans and Swedes and much of the rest of Europe is a little mixed. There is still a lot of pride in older culture, but young people especially are "Americanised" through television and music, and also receive a lot of media from the UK which is closer in culture to the US than to Europe. Yes, they have MacVomit, yes they know what rap is, yes they wear jeans and T shirts and trainers, yes they have seen The Simpsons etc. I think you will find they are much like you, but with accents! Forget any touristic image you might have of timber frame houses and folk dances in traditional country dress. As for religion its also a mixed bag - assuming they are natives rather than immigrants (both countries have large immigrant populations), they will be broadly Christian. The Swede will be protestant most likely, and the German could be protestant or catholic. Church attendance in Europe is higher than in the UK but much lower than in the US, so you might find you have one or both who do not and will not attend, or t'other way about.

My experience so far with all the foreign exchange young ladies
is that they are much more tolerant of religious belief systems
or the lack thereof, than most Americans.

Alcohol. Mainland Europeans have a sensible approach to alcohol - so your German should be no problem. Swedes on the other hand can be absolute horrors! Everything you suspect from their Viking heritage in relation to alcohol is regrettably true! Alcohol has long been strictly controlled in Sweden and with very high prices too, so you might expect your Swede to go a little crazy at the opportunity to get drunk (very drunk) regularly in the freer US. For us in the UK, it wouldnt be anything unusual to how young people are here, but it might come as a shock to you, so be prepared just in case.

E

You hit the nail on the head with that one Lady Ellen!  Those
Swedes party like rock stars!  And Oktoberfest is just around
the corner, so they very well may have competition beer tasting,
I mean guzzling, in the living room and kitchen.
 
Regards,
 
Vendaval





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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 3:39:58 PM   
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It has been my experience  (6 years in Germany) that their is fiecre competition when it comes to sports in Europe.  Doesn't make much difference what country.   Most of the competition is directed at cities where each city has it's "home town team"  This is as opposed to the US where people from all over the country support someone's team (Go Army Sink Navy)  lol   In Europe it is more regionalized.

That is interesting to know.  Thank you, KenDckey.

As to common language, I am sure you will  work it out.  Most of Germany requires English be taken.   I think it is the same in Sweeden but am not sure  I didn't get to go there.  I suggest that you try to learn a few words and phrases.  I am sure they will be glad to teach you.    Besides it is always nice to know when you are being cussed out.   LOL


I am anticipating a mixed bag of languages in this situation.
Plus, this weekend now includes a trip to a local bookstore
to pick up some of those handy-dandy "Dummies" books,
one for German and one for Swedish, that have CD Roms
with audio lessons.
 
I consider it common courtesy to know at least a bit of their
respective languages. 
 
Regards,
 
Vendaval
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 3:54:43 PM   
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- If you invite them to dinner, DON'T place a bouquet of red flowers on the table.  Red is a color of passion, and infers a romantic notion in Germany.
- It is considered impolite in Germany to hold the dinner fork in the right hand, as the right hand is considered to be for cutting.
- Cutting more than the bite to be consumed is also considered to be in poor taste.
- If the German starts partying and getting really friendly at 11:11 on November 11th, it is permissable behavior during Fasching season.
- Do not freak out if the German starts eating raw hamburger meat, pate's are a favorite snack.
- Don't be surprised if either or both hang their bed linens or pillows out the window during the daytime.
- Don't be surprised if either wonders why there is sand or leaves in the street in front of the dwelling.
- Gutefahrt, Einfahrt and Ausfahrt (or Eingang/Ausgang) are not bad words.
- Fuch is not pronounced as fuck, and means something totally diffferent (ie. Fuch's Beer, the villiage of Fuch).
- Soccer is indeed King among sports... and almost considered worth dying for by it's very loyal fans.
- Bitte does not mean bitch, it can mean a lot of things (pardon?, thanks, please, etc)... but not bitch.
- It is considered proper to say danke after either says geshundite when you sneeze.
- Do not ever refer to either as a swinehund, that's fighting words (pigdog).

It's been a few years for me, so this is hard... there's a few for now, lol 

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 4:36:51 PM   
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On the Einfahrt Ausfahrt point there quite recently was a female German high jumper called Ulrika Meyfahrt.
Not sure what was the name of ihr Vater.(father)  V= F in German.

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 4:42:20 PM   
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Would it really matter what her Vati's first name was?  His full name would always be a gute icebreaker!   

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RE: 2 new roommates, 2 different countries, 2 different... - 9/15/2006 4:56:46 PM   
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Ummm...they fought in the Thirty Years' War, but I guess that was before your roommates were born.  WW II wasn't too good for Swedish-German relations either.  Nowadays I think the main arguments have to do with who has the better matjes, because it's universally accepted that Sweden has the prettier women.

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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

For those in the know, are there any long-standing cultural/political
rivalries between Sweden and Germany?  Do they have say, a

fierce competitiveness about such sports as socceer, skiing or snowboarding?

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