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orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 6:22:04 PM   
LillieRose


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Status: offline 		As far as training, how long does it take if someone can only orgasm two ways, and has never orgasmed on command?  Does she have hope of being able to do this for her Sir?  She wishes to please him in all ways and is having doubts that she will be trained to do this...help please!
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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 6:33:19 PM   
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As far as training, how long does it take if someone can only orgasm two ways, and has never orgasmed on command?  Does she have hope of being able to do this for her Sir?  She wishes to please him in all ways and is having doubts that she will be trained to do this...help please!


Success of the project will depend at least as much on him as it does on you.

That being the case I don't think either of you should be lining up to take the lion's share of blame in case things don't pan out.



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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 6:43:53 PM   
PrimitiveLogic


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Status: offline 		I have had the good fortune to have shared time with more than one submissive who was capable of cumming on invitation...just a difference in summoning as opposed to command. As Noah states; it truly depends on a shared relationship and realistic evolving expectations. It certainly doesn't happen by ordering one.  He has to create a place where you can't imagine yourself not seeping like a hot ripe peach...waiting to burst.  You have to have created the pathway from His voice and desire; through your flesh, to your very soul.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 7:29:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've known two slaves that were programmed with triggers. It didn't matter how the trigger word was delivered with one, or by who. The other would only trigger orgasm by hearing her Master's voice say the trigger.  If all else fails, then hypnotism might be an option to pursue?

It's usually not terribly difficult to get into a nice sexy headspace and orgasm easily when coaxed along by Master's voice, words and vaginal/nipple manipulations. But to simply orgasm upon hearing a "cum now" command is very tough indeed, if not impossible for some to ever get their head wrapped around, it takes much longer to manifest.  

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 8:18:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		First, not everyone can be trained; second, not everyone who can be trained can be trained by just anyone; third, even people who can be trained sometimes take a long time.  There's really no way to predict this.  It might work, it might not; it might happen soon, it might not.  You'll have to hope that your dom knows what he's doing, too, because if he doesn't, he could be playing with matches.

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ORIGINAL: LillieRose

As far as training, how long does it take if someone can only orgasm two ways, and has never orgasmed on command?  Does she have hope of being able to do this for her Sir?  She wishes to please him in all ways and is having doubts that she will be trained to do this...help please!

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 8:26:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dear LillieRose, Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
Orgasm by command or on a command, comes with consistant re-enforcement of the same command when you're able to orgasm.  Word/mental image/mental suggestion is the big key element in doing this.  It takes time for both.
 
Really boils down to conditioning.  The experiment was done with dogs ages ago, where on a que/trigger/command they would perform a task to get rewarded.  However, I doubt dogs have the extra mental distractions that humans do, such as work, kids, bills, etc., that has to be shelfed when you do these conditioning exercises.  It just doesn't happen at a snap of the finger.  There will be more misses than hits and the dominant needs to positive re-enforce that you're a good lass so all that self defeating mental dialog is cancelled out.
 
It will get easier as time goes by and, it also does not mean that every Tom, Dick and Harry will be able to get you to orgasm on their command--everything mentally, emotionally and physically has to be 'just so' as to do it.
 
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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 8:53:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LillieRose

As far as training, how long does it take if someone can only orgasm two ways, and has never orgasmed on command?  Does she have hope of being able to do this for her Sir?  She wishes to please him in all ways and is having doubts that she will be trained to do this...help please!


It helps if your dominant person has the view that life is a journey and not a destination, so that way even if you never reach the "goal" you can still have fun trying to.

Most people cannot do this no matter how hard they try. It is like trying to find the Golden Fleece. I do hope you do not feel pressured by this desire because it is hard enough to orgasm normally without pressure

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/16/2006 9:33:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		The amount of time it takes would vary by person, one would think.  And yes, it is possible - was trained to do it long-distance - over the phone and internet.  Was amazed, did not think it was possible - but it definitely is.  The trigger word worked when either Him or His partner (a Domme) said it, but not when anyone else used it. 

It can happen - don't worry about it, just relax and enjoy the journey - let it take you by surprise..........................

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 7:11:59 AM   
marieToo


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Status: offline 		I am a "cum on command" skeptic.

Its one of those "when I see it, I'll believe it" things for me. <and even that wouldnt be enough.>

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 7:14:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LillieRose

As far as training, how long does it take if someone can only orgasm two ways, and has never orgasmed on command?  Does she have hope of being able to do this for her Sir?  She wishes to please him in all ways and is having doubts that she will be trained to do this...help please!

lol in all her years, this slave has never been able to achieve this. Needless to say, her inability to do so has given Master many enjoyable moments

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 7:15:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		We do the cum on command thing at times. When I started out it took lots of patience to do it. It isn't something that you can do the first time. It is fun pratcing though.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 7:18:42 AM   
eyesopened


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Status: offline 		i can fake an orgasm on command, does that count? 

please, no flames, i'm just kidding


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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 7:26:30 AM   
LillieRose


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LillieRose

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 7:53:17 AM   
alwayscuri


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Status: offline 		Well I cant speak for anyone else nor do I wish to but for me I can come on command with my Master but it wasnt always that way It was something that evolved over time. I couldent do it with my prior Master no matter how we tried. There is just something about my Masters voice in my ear that triggers this, though I cant explain what it is except for the fact that maybe its because we are so in tune to each other...........curi

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 7:55:46 AM   
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cumming on command is not actually cumming on command in many ways,, its more being in a state of denial continually, and when he says whatever the trigger word is, you are able to release instantly. most i know find the training to be a little time comsuming because it entails lots of denial. you take soemone to the edge, and then deny. i fully remember when i learnt, and how once i reached a certain point in control, i was taken to the edge, thinking i was going to be able to cum, then told to very slowly count to 100. im not even sure how i was able to focus on each number, but it took me to a different level. and it was after a couple times of this, that i realized, i never knew when he'd push me, and every minute i was with him i just wanted to cum. its at that point you can cum on demand, be it on the phone, in person, or even at a certain time of day. you think about him, and when they clock strikes that minute you can almost hear his voice tell you, cum now,,,, good luck
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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 8:25:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LillieRose

As far as training, how long does it take if someone can only orgasm two ways, and has never orgasmed on command?  Does she have hope of being able to do this for her Sir?  She wishes to please him in all ways and is having doubts that she will be trained to do this...help please!


I'd say that the onus is far more on your *Sir* than you, to be able to do this, if at all possible. Much of it is conditioning and tied to how receptive you are to that type of thing and how well he can manipulate you and your feelings/mind etc..

From a personal angle......it took a lot of time and I certainly wasn't working toward it, quite the opposite, in fact. His utter confidence that it would happen at some point annoyed me, not least because I knew that he knew my body and mind that closely.

If it had a great significance I think that the anxiety would likely have rendered it unlikely, frankly.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 8:33:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is a whole downside of this "cumming on command" conditioning.  I find this very difficult to do.  There have been studies suggesting the entire concept of being able to achieve orgasm without stimulation is impossible.

In my own experience, I being highly orgasmic, can "cum on command" as long as we are engaged in actual intercourse AND he gives permission as I am already starting to cum (not quite cumming on command).  HOWEVER, "His Highness" started working on the opposite......keeping me from having an orgasm until he was ready for me to have one.  This produced a disaster that only left me frustrated and angry. I would get worked up until ready to orgasm, he would tell me no and then I  was unable to orgasm at all during that sexual encounter.....even if permission was given later. 

***stomping my foot****  I'm not listening to "no" anymore.  I'm willing to risk punishment later!  Of course he hasn't denied me either, since our experiment ended in disaster.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 9:05:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LillieRose

As far as training, how long does it take if someone can only orgasm two ways, and has never orgasmed on command?  Does she have hope of being able to do this for her Sir?  She wishes to please him in all ways and is having doubts that she will be trained to do this...help please!


Much of this depends upon the individuals involved. Once the first trigger is in place it is much easier to install secondary responses.

While I can cause my girl to cum on command by use of a word. How I say that word can effect the intensity. By use of a touch I can bring her to the edge of release without the release. A tease if you will. With another word I can cause her to feel like I just flicked her clit. If the girl is tickled she has been trained not to move until she is given the ok. This is like winding up a rubber band and then letting it spasm its release. Once wound up though, if you wait long enough the tickle will dissipate. These are all basically neat tricks, but they do allow an added dimension.

Besides, it makes a great way to end an unwanted conversation. Your at a party, she's talking to much, I say a word and all of a sudden she stops talking, looks down for a moment and then can't remember what she was talking about. End of conversation. I did not have to create a spectacle and most people are not the wiser to what just happened. She's reminded of her place and life continues on.

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 9:16:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		For me, and orgasm is *as much* mental as it is physical... sometimes even more so.  I know this because I can have orgasms in my sleep without any physical stimulation whatsoever...

I agree with most in that "cumming on command" is a mental conditioning exercise.  It's about losing yourself in your Master's/Sir's voice and desire and allowing yourself to step over the threshold without question.  Often, women are shy or distracted when it comes to matters of the clit, and quite honestly now that I have learned to "cum on command" I find it difficult to cum without such command being given.  :)

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RE: orgasm on command?? - 9/17/2006 9:49:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Since that conclusion is false, I vote to defenestrate those studies.

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There have been studies suggesting the entire concept of being able to achieve orgasm without stimulation is impossible.

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