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Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:06:34 AM

Dnomyar

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Usually I post just to get peoples reactions to a question. This time Im looking for an opnion. In a recent post I had a owned slave reply to a question. He was all bent out of shape by the question and went on a rant. I welcome others opinions but this was taken a little to far. I don't know if he asked his Mistress before he did it or is it allowed for a slave to do something like this on their own? I would like a slave owners opinion on this.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:13:54 AM

gooddogbenji

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I'll give my opinion:

Just cuz someone said something you don't like does not mean it was over the top. All it means is that you took it to be offensive, and now you want us to tell you "Oh, yes, all slaves have to ask for permission before posting anything."

Slaves can do anything their owners want them to do. If they can post freely, they will. And as a Dom, you should know how poorly pissing and moaning suits anyone.

Yours,

benji

PS: is it bad if I have gone for 75 posts thinking the OP was a sub?

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:15:33 AM

AnAtlantaDom

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If his Mistress has given him permission to post then it's her problem (the rant). If their dynamic is otherwise then it's his problem. Seems simple to me

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:15:43 AM

crouchingtigress

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Many owners allow thier slaves to voice thier opinions and to say what is on thier minds....Many find it to be more attactive to have a slave only adhere to rules of protocol with in the confines of thier own dynamic. I think that when an owner is too heavily invested in the common idea that 'what the slave does reflects on them', they are perhaps too invested in thier own ego and should relax a bit....

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:16:24 AM

LuckyAlbatross

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Assume that if a slave makes a post, the master is ok with the slave making the post. I can't tell you how annoying it would be for me when I was on AOL and get a random IM from some cyber dom saying as an owned slave I shouldn't be online. If I shouldn't be online, my owner would certainly have let me know and it's not for a cyber stranger to suddenly be deciding how my life should be lived.

If corrective action needs to be taken, I'm sure it will and their posting behavior will be shown accordingly.

I know of doms who make a few general guidelines on what may and may not be shared publicly, or how certain positions may be taken. There are a very few number of doms who actively limit and manage their slaves time online directly.

Treat people the same and have the same expectations regardless of their orientation- their orientation means nothing in terms of social status and is only useful as a point of information for their perspective.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:18:41 AM

MsKatHouston

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Not knowing the post you are talking about, I'll answer in a general fashion. Any slave of mine has complete permission to participate on forums, message groups, etc. He or she is expected to give honest opinions about the topics in which they choose to participate whether I agree or not. However, I also have certain behaviors that are allowed and not allowed. For example, courtesy is required. There are ways to post a dissenting opinion without being rude. Name calling and generally being disrespectful is not the type of behavior I want from someone serving me. Intelligent, heated debate is one thing. Resorting to childish tactics just means you ran out of something intelligent to say. There's also room for humor and this does not bother me either. But even those with the best of intentions can have a bad day...maybe that was his.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:22:17 AM

gooddogbenji

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsKatHouston

Name calling and generally being disrespectful is not the type of behavior I want from someone serving me.

Well, that's my cue!

*backs out of the room*

Yours,

benji

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:23:24 AM

MsKatHouston

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no, you fall in the humor category ;)

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:25:13 AM

gooddogbenji

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Well, fuck that shit! That can change damn fast!

Yours,

benji

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:26:50 AM

Archer

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Elegant is in fact required to argue her opinion in most cases.The opinion we have come to s a house she is required to defend until she has een convinced beyond doubt that the other viewpoint is better than ours. Until that point she is required to debate with tact and respect but with all she has.

Unless we are forced to defend our opinions with facts we get lazy and miss the chance to have them grow.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:34:32 AM

juliaoceania

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I have one basic rule and I have followed it assideously. If I screwed up and posted something he did not like he would never let anyone here know he disciplined me, and I respect that. He is not into shaming me in front of strangers on an internet message board. My point of relating this to you is that even if the owner of this slave reprimmands him for this behavior, you may never know, nor should you necessarily. If there was a transgression it was against the owner of the slave, not you.

I would wonder how you would feel if the person was not an owned slave? Just out of curiousity? catize recently posted something I am in total agreement about for a unowned submissive.. she said the internet was an equal playing field for an exchange of ideas... I tend to agree with her. If I was not in a dynamic I would be even brassier than I am because I would bear complete responsibility for my words and they would reflect only my views... it is harder for a submissive in a dynamic because we often do not have a way to defend ourselves the way we would like from being attacked by dominant people... which is not right either.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:41:34 AM

justheather

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I'm permitted to post on certain days of the month.
What and how I post is up to me.
I am expected to be mindful in my speech. That includes what I type on the boards.
If I believed that something I am going to say would reflect negatively on my Daddy (even though most people here have no idea who my Daddy is) I wouldnt post it.
Otherwise, my opinions are my own and I am at liberty to express them.

Edited to add this is a fast reply.

< Message edited by justheather -- 9/21/2006 11:42:19 AM >

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:51:22 AM

Dnomyar

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If you read the post I didnt ask for a submissives point of view. Im not a slave owner. Im just curious about what a slaves owners views are on what their slaves are allowed to express.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:58:22 AM

gooddogbenji

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

If you read the post I didnt ask for a submissives point of view.

Nope. But you got them anyway.

Yours,

benji

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 11:59:20 AM

justheather

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Once you put your question out there, anyone who wants to respond is free to do so.
If you don't like what the subs who responded had to say, feel free to not read them.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 12:03:13 PM

juliaoceania

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edited because heather beat me to it

< Message edited by juliaoceania -- 9/21/2006 12:04:04 PM >

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 12:04:48 PM

mstrjx

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As a once and future slave owner, I have a couple of viewpoints on this.

As MsKat and Julia indicated, there should be some guidelines as to what, within ones respective relationships, can or should be communicated, the style, etc.

These forums are not for any of us, individually. If they were, we could all get together in one room and talk and argue and throw stones and wield weapons until the 'bestest' 50 were still standing, bloodied, to walk away.

These forums are for an exchange of ideas that we can personally gain from, for the lurkers who watch us right now, and for BDSMers (or whatever they will be called) to see 50 years from now (or however long the posts stay up and LA catalogues them).

If any slave of mine is able to match wits with you or me (and if I have anything to say about my selection process, she would), then so be it. If she has something valuable to say, she should not be basished to the General or Servants' room. Do you stay out of the Servants' room?

If she didn't already have the skills, she would be taught how to communicate with trolls, whether due to emails or silly posts, albeit with a delicacy and grace that exceeds mine. There's only so much 'snark' allowed in my family. (We would giggle about it in private, however.)

I think that covers it for now.

Jeff

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 12:19:11 PM

softpjOS

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Ack! Caught lurking again

And sorry but yes this is yet another response from a slave so pass me on by if You don't wish to hear from me.

See, Mistress allows me to post freely. My responses are reviewed by Her and discussed privately. I am allowed to debate/offer advise/ question and even *gasp* disagree with any post even if it was made by a Dominant. As you see, I do not post often but that doesn't mean I'm not allowed to. I like the shadows and sneaking up on people.

pj

ps... mstrjx i saw You lurking in the slaves room earlier

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 12:19:17 PM

Dnomyar

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So what is being said is that you dont care who the post are being directed to. You dont have the experience to answer the question but your going to mouth off about it anyway. I would think that post are to gather knowlege from. I didnt know so many people knew everything.

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RE: Slave post - 9/21/2006 12:23:10 PM

gooddogbenji

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Awwww... widdwe dommy has a boo boo?

Come here! I'll kiss it better!

Yours,

benji

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