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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 2:35:07 PM   
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quote:

quote:

topcat

*Eldest child
*Wears glasses
*Reads (reads a lot)
*Likes Sushi
*Smokes
*Artist of some sort

tick... (well, only... so i guess i am the oldest)
tick...
tick...
tick...
cross... but starts smoke(if Ya know what I mean... )
tick...


If you're a redhead and like motorcycles i think we have a match.

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 3:13:44 PM   
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Mmm....Delicious thread so far. This is hitting home right now because I'm actively interviewing local submissives.

My perfect submissive: is a straight male, between the ages of 25 and 38, tall and on the slim side. He's funny, smart, intelligent and gainfully employed. He's got interests outside of the realm of BDSM. He's strong, has opinions and can carry on intelligent conversation. He's attentive and detail oriented, and a good listener. He's not a 'sensitive guy' rather, he's a mature man who's not insensitive.

He's a bit of an exhibitionist and a bit of a slut in the right circumstances and he adores me and is absolutely overt about it. He pushes back a little to the point of S.A.M in some cases during a scene, is willing to have his limits pushed, and enjoys a creative Domina (hi Jules). He looks hot shit in a leather harness. He understands who and what he is, and in a public party venue is respectful and courteous to everyone, regardless of their station.


For me, the first paragraph is something he must come to me with. The second paragraph can be trained into the right submissive.

Lily


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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 3:44:06 PM   
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For me, the first paragraph is something he must come to me with. The second paragraph can be trained into the right submissive.


Lily, I must say you are quite organized and it is apparent you know what you seek!

I am so impressed with everyone's time, effort and thought they have put into their ideal compliment. I'm sure many of you have spent months and years perfecting your list.

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 6:03:09 PM   
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ok this raised a discussion in my household
and what I looked for and had previously had (note this is for male submissives part only)

taller than me eg greater than 5 8, with a preference for over six foot
younger than I, preference again with somewhere in the thirities (I am in my forties)
masochistic and service oriented
Local
University educated
Athletic build

I found him the perfect one, same height as me, older than I , blue collar worker (electrician by trade) no university degree
and he is wonderful and service oriented , masochostic to the hilt (that was non negotiable )
It was funny we met for play almost four years ago, nothing more ... ohh and he wasnt local at the time. He is perfect, well he is male so
My ideal was different in reality



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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 6:15:30 PM   
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Dominant Sadist, is the short version of it... the long version is One who is comfortable with who and what He is... He is dominant by nature and will use me as an expression of it rather than a prop... He has a bent sense of humor and knows how to laugh and play... He loves dishing the pain as much as i love getting it... He ejoys life and is happy with Himself, for i believe while another can add to and multiply a person's happiness, one can't -make- someone happy... happiness begins inside yourself and spreads outward... He has imagination and creativity because what's more fun than cuddling after a hard session and daydreaming up new torments for all the next-times? He is intelligent and well read because it's important for me to be able to talk with Him out of bed as well as in it... that He's honest, trustworthy and confident speak for themselves... and lastly, i need Him who knows His craft... i run on all gears from soft to hard and while i love a spanking as much as the next girl, the hard i like requires knowledge and skill else damage can occur...

physical appearance is not so important to me because while it's nice to look at the outside of a person, it's the person inside with whom we live...

great question willing2serve...
thank you!

sincerely,
merry

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 6:26:35 PM   
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quote:

My ideal was different in reality


LdyAuburn, I love this quote. I just wonder if my reality will be different as well. Thank you so much for responding.

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 6:30:27 PM   
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quote:

i believe while another can add to and multiply a person's happiness, one can't -make- someone happy... happiness begins inside yourself and spreads outward... He has imagination and creativity because what's more fun than cuddling after a hard session and daydreaming up new torments for all the next-times?


Merry, you have very healthy ideals. Thank you for your input as well. Where are all of these ideal partners? They must exist because some of you have found them.

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 6:39:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willing2serve

Merry, you have very healthy ideals. Thank you for your input as well. Where are all of these ideal partners? They must exist because some of you have found them.



It took me about ten years to find mine, and then it was largely a matter of dumb luck.

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 6:53:36 PM   
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It took me about ten years to find mine


Did you ever lose hope or did you hold fast to your ideals of what you needed knowing you would eventually find that person?

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/15/2005 6:58:03 PM   
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I had more than a few moments of bleak despair, but I never stopped trying. Each failure gave me further grist for the mill, as I redefined and added to the list that I had begun.

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 12:27:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

The perfect Dom.....at least for me...

Someone who is intelligent, witty and has a good sense of humor. Someone who is self assured and confident but not so full of Himself that He can't admit imperfection. Someone who is capable enough of taking care of Himself that I am an asset to His life, not a need such as clothing, food and shelter, but to fill His more emotional and intimate needs. He would be a mentor, a guide, a sensualist, a sadist, a disiciplinarian, a confidante, a best friend. He would be loving and accepting of the fact that I am also an imperfect being and would encourage me and show me the path to becoming the best that I can be. He would be open and honest to a fault and would expect no less from me. He would be experienced enough in life and lifestyle to know exactly what it is that He wants and will have given as much thought to His Dominance as I have to my submission. He would be someone who fully understands the responsibilities that are an intrinsic part of being a Dominant. He would be patient and tender when it was appropriate and strict and unwavering when that is appropriate.....and He would know the difference.

A tall order......not really. I just described my Sir.


How can I NOT love this woman? No measure of praise is adequate for all she gives me and I sometimes wonder if I'm truly worthy of her.

I've spent my life as a single man. The absolute bachelor. Beyond the normal list of mundane lost loves I'd never found the person I wanted to spend my life with. And then I met erin.

I've waited 40 years for her to come into my life and I tell her so every day. All I really ever wanted was someone who understood how to be supportive of my ambitions, respectful of my emotions, and accepting of my personality and desires. As simplistic as these items may sound I've never found such a combination in any "modern woman" I've ever known. And yet, she is all of these.

When combined with her humor, intellect, wisdom, and the purest desire to serve she becomes far more than I had ever hoped to find. When my dog days are upon me and my spirit is low I need only hear the words "I believe in you." pass from her lips to feel the wind under my wings once more.

The bonuses? Gourmet chef, loving mother, extraordinary lover and playmate, loyal friend, unshakable faith, an undying quest for improvement, and...believe it or not...bare knuckle fist fighter (no bullshit!).

All of this wrapped in the body and soul of a true Irish Miss. A natural submission tempered by fire. A lady of unequaled quality. For me...perfection!

And the best part? She's all mine...mine, mine, mine, mine, MINE!!!!!!

To my loving erin,
No man could ever be so proud as am I to have you as my own. No man ever so lucky. No man ever so pleased. Though the very stars of heaven crumble to dust my love for you shall never waiver. If a collar be my universe always remember it is you at the center.

Your Sir,
John


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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 12:37:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: 1RottenJohnny

To my loving erin,
No man could ever be so proud as am I to have you as my own. No man ever so lucky. No man ever so pleased. Though the very stars of heaven crumble to dust my love for you shall never waiver. If a collar be my universe always remember it is you at the center.

Your Sir,
John




Okay, everybody on three...

one...


Two...


THREE!

AWWWW! That's sooo shweet ::chortle::


(honestly, I'm pickled tink to see you both so happy, but I couldn't resist a little teasing)

< Message edited by Suleiman -- 1/16/2005 1:11:19 AM >


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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 2:11:16 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Suleiman

(honestly, I'm pickled tink to see you both so happy, but I couldn't resist a little teasing)



LOL! I figured I'd get it from someone! Might as well get it over with!

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 4:43:11 AM   
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Good Morning:

My first experiences in D/s were created by the Domme/Dom as I did not overtly seek the individuals or BDSM experiences. Each was very intense and created many questions for me regarding why I had allowed them to continue. Thus, I did not have an ideal Domme/Dom for many years.

As I began seeking D/s relationships myself, I created the perfect Domme/Dom that I was seeking. A Domme had to be over five feet ten inches tall, strong voice, very intelligent, continental European, smoked though I did not, wore black clothing, etc. Additionally, I had a list of hard limits such as scat, chemicals, etc. and soft limits.

There were a group of similar expectations for a Dom. They would be tall, blonde, intelligent, athletic build, thirty to thirty-five years old, American, etc.

Interestingly, none of the earlier Domme/Doms had created these specific requirements. Seeking this ideal Domme/Dom, I had some fun experiences, laughed a great deal, had a several Domme/Doms that desired switches. Discovered that I didn't enjoy topping. Yes, I had one excellent long-term D/s relationship as a domestic slave with a Domme who did not meet these, but I did not notice.

A very squeaky voice told me that a mutual friend suggested that we talk and would I meet her for drinks at Momo's that evening. I agreed, and she instantly told me to wear tan trousers, sandals, a white polo shirt with no belt, underwear, no wallet, keys, etc. in my pockets, and to bring a resume.

As Momo's was a favorite watering hole of a close friend, I had been there several times. Unless I was abducted in a Bentley, Porsche Turbo or Ferrari, the servers were not going to allow a ruckus. Obviously, she was going to pay for expensive drinks.

I arrived at Momo's to meet a very very thin, Central European woman with a very high voice. She did not smoke, was not tall, wasn't interested in conversation but wanted specific questions answered. She was very confident and well liked in Momo's it appeared. She was a well established ballerina with a London ballet company. Regarding my limits, she stated that I must agreed to break them if I was to be punished and listed off infractions that would result in such punishment. On the other hand, she was a pixie!

Immediately, I had been a submissive to her. Her life was very frantic, demanding, etc., but her D/s relationship was very planned, ect. It was ritualized, and she demanded that it remain as such.

I would arrive at her flat near the Barbicon where the door would be ajar and walk down the hall to a back room. I was not to go into other rooms, stop if I saw someone, etc. Quickly and efficiently, my clothing was taken from me and placed in another room which I had never entered. The bondage was very specific with my cock and balls aways attached to a chain secured to an eye hook in the floor. Other bondage was used to hold me in position.

In the end, I realized that she enjoyed seeing me reach the point where where I only reacted to her voice, the ritual, etc. Basically, her ritual was meant to strip the self from the submissive by draining the submissive physically and emotionally. I never had expected the strength and endurance that this tiny pixie exhibited.

The difficult part was the distance that she put between us. I was the only one who changed. She wore what she wanted whether a business suit, warm-ups, etc. Her day progressed as normal as she answered the phone in another room or talked to a boiler engineer who arrived. On the other hand, I had absolutely no choices. My day changed completely when I arrived. She knew what I would be doing every second of the time in her flat.

She returned to her ballet company in Central Europe, and I was thinking about new relationships. This experience made me understand that it is not the perfect Domme/Dom (height, weight, hair colour, age, etc.), but one is seeking a specific emotional experience.

This made me realize that the 'friendships' that I had been seeking with Domme/Doms were not part of the emotional experience that I seek. Instead, the perfect Domme/Dom for me is a person who enjoys power exchange and does not desire to know me as a person. The Domme/Dom takes my privacy and immediately builds upon that. They continue their life as usual whether including friends or dressing. This creates a great gap between us with the Domme/Dom quickly gaining the majority of power and control in the relationship.

The Domme/Dom's enjoyment of humiliation results in a continued testing of the exchange of power. I do not know it if is the lack of power and control or the humiliation that I find the anxiety and other emotions which draw me to BDSM relationships.

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 5:51:14 AM   
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quote:

How can I NOT love this woman? No measure of praise is adequate for all she gives me and I sometimes wonder if I'm truly worthy of her.

I've spent my life as a single man. The absolute bachelor. Beyond the normal list of mundane lost loves I'd never found the person I wanted to spend my life with. And then I met erin.

I've waited 40 years for her to come into my life and I tell her so every day. All I really ever wanted was someone who understood how to be supportive of my ambitions, respectful of my emotions, and accepting of my personality and desires. As simplistic as these items may sound I've never found such a combination in any "modern woman" I've ever known. And yet, she is all of these.

When combined with her humor, intellect, wisdom, and the purest desire to serve she becomes far more than I had ever hoped to find. When my dog days are upon me and my spirit is low I need only hear the words "I believe in you." pass from her lips to feel the wind under my wings once more.

The bonuses? Gourmet chef, loving mother, extraordinary lover and playmate, loyal friend, unshakable faith, an undying quest for improvement, and...believe it or not...bare knuckle fist fighter (no bullshit!).

All of this wrapped in the body and soul of a true Irish Miss. A natural submission tempered by fire. A lady of unequaled quality. For me...perfection!

And the best part? She's all mine...mine, mine, mine, mine, MINE!!!!!!

To my loving erin,
No man could ever be so proud as am I to have you as my own. No man ever so lucky. No man ever so pleased. Though the very stars of heaven crumble to dust my love for you shall never waiver. If a collar be my universe always remember it is you at the center.

Your Sir,
John


typing through my tears........Sir you made this girl's heart soar!!! There was another thread asking if a Dominant could be romantic, well if this is not proof enough I surely don't know what is.

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Peace and light,
~erin~

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 7:08:28 PM   
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My Ideal Sub is probably extreme enough to be considered slave, because I want the relationship to be that involved, and I want control beyond the basic/bedroom.
Physically: He may be thin or thick like myself, not much more overweight than I (because I know I don't exercise much at all, and don't want anyone who also doesn't exercise/but eats more=hence weighing more, lol; I hope that makes sense to the reader).
He may be shorter ( afew inches) or taller...
Most importantly though he is relatively intelligent/smart/able to talk with me about every/anything, he has a sense of humor/is not terribly uptight, able to laugh at self and life.
Having said all of that, one can still meet someone with these qualities and still not feel the ellusive chemistry required (attraction is such a strange thing). M

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 8:12:15 PM   
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It is so nice to "meet" You. i'e come to see that erin is a real gem. i'm thrilled to see how much You realize it.

Gosh i just want to hug you both.

psst erin that's another thing we have in common, Master has always been The absolute bachelor also

lil_joy


quote:

ORIGINAL: 1RottenJohnny


quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

The perfect Dom.....at least for me...

Someone who is intelligent, witty and has a good sense of humor. Someone who is self assured and confident but not so full of Himself that He can't admit imperfection. Someone who is capable enough of taking care of Himself that I am an asset to His life, not a need such as clothing, food and shelter, but to fill His more emotional and intimate needs. He would be a mentor, a guide, a sensualist, a sadist, a disiciplinarian, a confidante, a best friend. He would be loving and accepting of the fact that I am also an imperfect being and would encourage me and show me the path to becoming the best that I can be. He would be open and honest to a fault and would expect no less from me. He would be experienced enough in life and lifestyle to know exactly what it is that He wants and will have given as much thought to His Dominance as I have to my submission. He would be someone who fully understands the responsibilities that are an intrinsic part of being a Dominant. He would be patient and tender when it was appropriate and strict and unwavering when that is appropriate.....and He would know the difference.

A tall order......not really. I just described my Sir.


How can I NOT love this woman? No measure of praise is adequate for all she gives me and I sometimes wonder if I'm truly worthy of her.

I've spent my life as a single man. The absolute bachelor. Beyond the normal list of mundane lost loves I'd never found the person I wanted to spend my life with. And then I met erin.

I've waited 40 years for her to come into my life and I tell her so every day. All I really ever wanted was someone who understood how to be supportive of my ambitions, respectful of my emotions, and accepting of my personality and desires. As simplistic as these items may sound I've never found such a combination in any "modern woman" I've ever known. And yet, she is all of these.

When combined with her humor, intellect, wisdom, and the purest desire to serve she becomes far more than I had ever hoped to find. When my dog days are upon me and my spirit is low I need only hear the words "I believe in you." pass from her lips to feel the wind under my wings once more.

The bonuses? Gourmet chef, loving mother, extraordinary lover and playmate, loyal friend, unshakable faith, an undying quest for improvement, and...believe it or not...bare knuckle fist fighter (no bullshit!).

All of this wrapped in the body and soul of a true Irish Miss. A natural submission tempered by fire. A lady of unequaled quality. For me...perfection!

And the best part? She's all mine...mine, mine, mine, mine, MINE!!!!!!

To my loving erin,
No man could ever be so proud as am I to have you as my own. No man ever so lucky. No man ever so pleased. Though the very stars of heaven crumble to dust my love for you shall never waiver. If a collar be my universe always remember it is you at the center.

Your Sir,
John




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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 8:15:55 PM   
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Oh this is so beautiful of Erin and John...I am envious and happy for you at the same time. I wish you all the success in exploring together and each other.

Respectfully,
Willing2serve

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/16/2005 8:39:27 PM   
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Thank you willing2serve,

I know that I truly am blessed. In the short time I have gotten to know of you though it is very easy to see just how much you have to offer. I am confident that the day will come when you too will feel so cherished.

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Peace and light,
~erin~

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RE: Fact or Fantasy? - 1/17/2005 5:08:45 AM   
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quote:

*Eldest child
*Wears glasses
*Reads (reads a lot)
*Likes Sushi
*Smokes
*Artist of some sort



<sigh> If only you were on the other side of the whip!

I want Lawrence, in the masochist model.

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