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marieToo -> RE: Why all submissives are all about sex?? (9/30/2006 8:58:42 AM)
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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
Two points:
A - Even if the profile were to clearly and exclusively say "NO SEX," there would still be conflicting messages: Text and clearly sexual pictures. So which is the true message which someone will see?
I dunno.. it depends how dense someone is. if they see this little caveat in my profile and choose to ignore it, regardless of how sexy my photos are, then that's on them.:
" i ONLYtake dominant lovers. Preferably rubber tops into heavy rubber and sadism, total lifestyle control, breathplay and rubber dolls.................With that being said, I do NOT bed my slaves anyway. slaves are slaves, they're not lovers."
most males don't even take the time to read anyone's profile. especially not one as verbose as mine. but when someone does then i know they've gotten past my pictures and there is something deeper to him and he deserve further audience with me. because i've laid it ALL out on the line what i expect and what they can expect. if they look for a deeper meaning or inference then they're wasting their time. i've already told them.
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
B - The following things are mentioned in the OP's profile which could confuse a hapless sub further:
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If you wish to serve me, you will worship me like the Goddess I am
if someone is that easily confused, then they really are a bit too daft for my personal intellectual tastes and requirements in a submissive or slave male. you make my profile appear as a venus fly trap waiting for some *hapless* male fly to land in it before being devoured by my digestive brew of confusion...lol um sorry i prefer males whom are versed in the ways of Cybele worship. if someone doesn't know what that is (or has to immediately run to google and look it up) then they already aren't of my calibre nor ilk of slave. Goddess Worship transcends BDSM for the most part and if you take that statement of mine as a sexually connotative one.. then i bet you're one of the many rushing over to google up what Cybele even means to begin with. if someone is confused by Goddess worship or takes it as sexually suggestive.. then they're a moron. i'm sorry. but they are.
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
While this does not directly say "SEX," common use of "worship" and such statements often imply sex on this site and sites like it. And isn't common use what language is all about?
boy did you hit the proverbial nail on the head with that one. the optimal sentence here being 'common use of "worship" and such statements often imply sex on this site and sites like it.'
some of us live in the real world of fetish dear. not some hyper-dogmatic, online fantasy dungeon realm. if you need a *site* to tell you what the common usage of a word is.. then you really need to get out more darling. common doesn't always or necessarily hold the same connotation offline as it does in the online world. no one goes around saying LOL or BRB offline and expect it to mean the same thing. they're both of *common* usage online, but people would look at you like a stark raving lunatic if you told them that shit offline.
the same goes for worship. the way i view worship is either in the sense of Goddess Worship.. or in the sense of the worship of a certain body part. this can or cannot be oral. and by oral i don't mean oral sex.. i mean oral as in licking of feet, or hands etc. worship is an intense adoration or fascination or appreciation for the object of focus. it can be a 2 hour foot rub that doesn't even have to involve any licking.. that's still foot worship.
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
Also used are:
Facesitting
i have a big round ass that i LOVE using for queening. i enjoy smothering someone under my ass and controling their ability to breathe by smooshing my ass on someone's face. i use my ass as i use any other tool in my toy bag. it's especially well suited for breath control and asphyxia. i'm not bare assed getting my ass or pussy licked.. i use it for smothering. queening can be oral or non oral. just like foot worship can. so no.. queening is not necessarily a sexually connotative part of my either... next...
Scents & armpits
how the hell are those sexually suggestive? boy your argument is getting weaker and weaker by the sentence.
Financial slavery (Doesn't mean prodomme, but the two often flow into each other. I mean apart from being against TOS)
pro domination is farrr different from financial slavery. financial slavery is a fetish for some.. pro domination is a business arrangement. but i'm not here to argue the difference between the two. so unlike you.. i'm staying on track. how is that sexual? we're talking about my sexually suggestive profile that's sending out mixed messages remember? not the couple of money bitches that i have. now i will give you this. i was/am not aware that financial slavery is against the Terms of Service for this site as i've seen it referenced much more blatantly than i have on many profiles not to mention my profile was approved here several times.. most recently like last week. if my profile was such an egregious violation of their Terms of Service then i'm sure it wouldn't have been approved. i have no problem removing that because i'm not one to violate TOS.. but it's not a big deal to me. i'd be more hurt if i had to remove any mention of rubber on my profile due to Terms of Service violations.. with that being said.. it still has nothing to do with anything sexually connotative on my profile so that's totally non sequitur- let's focus here dear... next.
Strapon training (Now if that aint sexual, call me Mother Theresa!)
silly boy, just because i don't let them fuck me doesn't mean that i don't like strapping it on. i quite enjoy taking male ass while he's safely away locked in a chastity device. technically that's a sexual reference, albeit anal sex for him. but since we're talking how my profile states no slaves as lovers, you could take it out of context and consider it sex (even though it's obvious i mean straight coital intercourse with a slave) .. seeing how feeble your arguments are so far.. i'll toss the dog that bone.
Cuckolding (Mentionned twice)
ok.. here goes. anyone that knows anything about the interaction of a cuckolding relationship is aware that there are many possible dynamics at play. there is no one cuckolding scenario and i won't go into all the possible scenarios of engagement on that one. i'll merely enlighten as to how my cuckolding relationships go. my cuckold serves me just like any other slave does in any other capacity. he just is forced to endure being closeted or mummified, or under a bed etc while my Top & i are enjoying each other intimately. and we LOVE it. my Top enjoys that power he wields over my weaker slaves and myself.. i enjoy making my slave jealous because i know he wishes he could be the one fucking me. contrary to popular belief not all cucks get the creampie or get to perform oral service. if i were to accept a cuckold male as my husband, then he would get more privileges in that area than a mere cuckold slave. as it stands now, my cuckold slave enjoys torture while i enjoy extreme pleasure that he's incapable of giving me. still no coital intercourse implied there.. so next feeble argument.
Boot, body, stocking/glove, foot/hand worship
body worship i can understand how that could be taken both ways. but oh lord... boot, stocking/glove, foot/hand worship? aren't you the little wealth of information. another water-weak argument from you as there is nothing sexually suggestive about any of those other than body worship. even then, for me, body worship is a privilege of my top slave. he's my personal attendant being allowed to prepare my bath, pedicure/manicure me.. tending to my dressing concerns like lacing my corset, massaging me after a rough day or whatever, shaving my legs or under my arms etc. the body worship that i engage in is not sexual either and anyone truly cogniscent of Goddess worship wouldn't automatically equate it to something sexual. maybe in online world body worship is a euphemism for subs that want to lick some pussy... next.
Virgin males (not sexual, but adds in one more sexual element) <== that's funny
hardly anything you've said thus far about my profile is overly sexual or implying sex betwixt my slaves & myself. lol so what's new? why attempt to add that little stipulation regarding *not sexual but adds in one more sexual element* to this piss poor argument and not the others? few aspects of human life aren't sexual. we're sexual beings and that's our driving force in life.. it's rather innate in us, but it doesn't mean we want to be approached by every being in a sexual manner. to me the ultimate height of servitude is when a male denies his innate, primal sexual drives to offer himself to me in complete supplication. virgin slaves are more pure to me in that they haven't had sex so their drive is even less about their own selfish sexual gratification and more focused on me..... next weak ass argument.
Toilet servitude
ok.. so i like to piss on people or make them drink it. how the hell is that sexually suggestive? oh.. i forgot.. maybe toilet play is in the same sexual line of suggestively mixed message fire as boot worship, hand or glove worship in your world.
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
Under the listed interests, she LIVES FOR
Body worship (you've been over that.. you're being redundant)
Foot worship (you've been over that.. you're being redundant)
Strapons (you've been over that.. you're being redundant)
Cuckolding, (we've been over that too already.. still redundant)
loves
Ass play
that would fall under strapon play or electro/anal torture.. once again.. nothing is going up my ass so i don't consider that the same as the sexual intimacy i have with a lover. i don't stick electro toys up my lover's ass and shock him like a mink. but it sure is fun to stick things up my slaves' arses. still isn't coital intercourse which is what MY profile is talking about.
Vaccuum stimulation
how is that sexually suggestive? i enjoy pumping my slaves' cocks up and then performing CBT on them. it's fun torturing pumped up balls or cocks. it's not like i'm pumping them up so i can fuck them. that doesn't say anything sexually suggestive to a slave who's about to have his cock pumped just so i can torture it or do some knife or fireplay or C/B bondage.
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ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
Well, I'm sure you get the idea.
lol only if you trying to give the idea that you have absolutely NO life or nothing better to do with your time than attempt to inadequately pick apart my profile in such an absurdly fallacious manner whilst clutching at straws to save your drowning assertions and make yourself appear to be a MasterdeBatur that you deem yourself to be. because that's about the only idea any sane person would walk away with from your idiotic *conclusions* (for utter lack of a more apropos word).
the only reason i took the time to address each one was because you obviously adopted my profile as your new hobby for the day and took the time to attempt to pick it apart so i figured the least i could do was toss the dog a bone and address each thing you brought up.
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gooddogbenji
How on earth could a sub get a mixed message?
perhaps if he was as dense as the *sub* who mixed the message up from the onset then i'm sure he could get a mixed message. anything is possible..you can lead an idiot to knowledge, but you can't make him think. it's ludicrous take an entire profile and chop it up to suit your erroneous arguments then totally negate or ignore the context from which they were drawn. you picked and chose the closet fetish/activity to anything even REMOTELY sexual so you would have the tiniest modicum of a leg to stand on with your *arguments*.
that about sums it up. your little fallacy fest you call a debate was rather amusing and definitely took my mind off my food poisoning tonight. i'm thoroughly tickled when people are incapable of proper discourse.
Interesting argument that things like queening, cuckolding and assplay can be explained away as non-sexual. What Im picking up here is that it isnt the physical acts in question, but how they are processed by yourself and the sub. If Im correct, would it be a safe assumption to say that you wouldnt mind a sub who wanted to eat you out and touch your tits and ass, as long as it was being processed as 'goddess worship' and he didnt cum from the experience?
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