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RE: whats the big deal? - 9/30/2006 2:20:59 PM

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May Day as a major festival in the UK? hmmmmmm, maybe in Europe, but not here. Banned by Ollie Cromwell I believe, and never caught on again afterwards. It also took on association with socialism, and that made it especially a bad idea for a public holiday in the UK - so now we have a day a week or so later, so we dont get into dancing round phallic symbols like the pagans, lighting bonfires like the evil papists in Ireland or celebrating the power of the people like those damned communists.

Halloween should be what it is for the Asatru group I belong to; a night when we feel the presence of the ancestors and celebrate them around us and in us. But in the UK, as NG said, its purely about how much cheap imported crap made in China that the shops can sell for grossly inflated prices, and then little thugs harassing people on their doorsteps and making demands with menaces. Sure you can tell them to go xxxx, but you will either get your windows smashed, a firework through your letterbox or your car wrecked - and they'll inform the police you're a paedo and be believed. Best bet, dont answer the door. And giving them some candy or money? Thats about the worst thing you can do, as they'll inform their little thug friends and next thing you'll have a dozen of 'em making demands with menaces at your door.

I wouldnt mind so much, if British kids made any effort with their appearance for these Halloween "high jinks" - but then again a few drunken 14 year olds in hooded tops and baseball caps is one of the most frightening sights for most people here. They know they can do what the hell they like and get away with it - and come back and repay any resistance later. And you'd best not resist in any way, or you'll be up for assault on the little dears before your feet touch the ground, whether or not you did anything to them.

To our American friends - enjoy it, but please, keep it to yourselves, OK?

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RE: whats the big deal? - 9/30/2006 2:28:32 PM

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Lady, I read somewhere that in England now you can't even defend yourself physically now without being charged with a crime.
Is that true?

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RE: whats the big deal? - 9/30/2006 3:09:30 PM

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It all depends on the amount of force used to defnd yourself. Apparently you can use reasonable force whatever that is !!

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RE: whats the big deal? - 9/30/2006 11:07:50 PM

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After reading the thread in general about halloween i just have to ask what is the big deal about halloween? I live in the U.K and we just don't really make much of it - what is it that you Americans go so nuts about?

1. Free Candy & Caramel Apples

2. Watching a live "Rocky Horror Picture Show"

3. A scared sub likes to gling a little closer to her dom.

4. A good time to pretend, imagine, and live a little care free.

5. The Great Pumpkin arrises from the pumpkin patch, flys through the air, and dilivers toys and candy to all the good children around the world.

6. Haunted Houses

7. It's the one night I'm considered normal. Everyone is doing what I do that day so I find myself fitting in with everyone.

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RE: whats the big deal? - 10/1/2006 9:09:58 AM

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And what's so big about Christmas? Or New Years?

It's something we grew up with, something associated with fond memories, and an excuse to have fun.

Isn't that what every holiday is?

Yours,

benji

i think that's a good summary. and free candy, us americans live in a sugar world. if we can get our sugar addiction(i'm under the belief that lots of us over here use sugar pretty much as a drug) for free then more kudos! and who doesn't want to put on costumes that you would possibly be looked down upon for wearing any other day? i think it's just a fun time for release.

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