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houseslave -> do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 9:35:02 AM)
a Wise Master once toldl me "slaves have no gender....they're just slaves." Do any Masters agree with Him? disagree?

zumala -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 9:41:39 AM)
chuckles Unless you've had your genitalia removed, you've got a gender. But seriously... I do get what you're asking. I would guess that it depends on the Master and how seriously they take 'possessing' and 'objectifing' their slave/property.

Lordandmaster -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 9:53:42 AM)
Well, see, if it's a male slave, it's "un esclave"; if it's a female slave, it's "une esclave." So yes, slaves have gender.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 10:18:59 AM)
I understand the point behind the statement is that what's important to a slave is to adhere to their masters authority, and not any gender role assignations. However, slaves still have gender and to suggest that one's gender identification does not strongly influence their overall sense of identity and choices in relationship is completely unrealistic.

raiken -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 12:21:12 PM)
What LA said...genders experiencce different cyclic rhythyms, involving hormones, dispositions, and stages of growth that affect each gender in different areas as one matures. It is wise, and may even be thought of as common sense, to consider gender as being a relevant factor in an M/s dynamic and structure.

DiurnalVampire -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 12:31:57 PM)
Slaves have a gender, of course. Masters and Mistresses have gender preferences, and slaves fall into those preferences. If your wise Master perhaps makes no distinction between his male and female slaves, then since their genders have no bearing on their responsablities and such, then I can see the logic behind the statement. I, personally, prefer male slaves. DV

StacyCat -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 2:02:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: zumala chuckles Unless you've had your genitalia removed, you've got a gender. It would be more like having their brain removed :-) Gender is a mental concept, vs sex which is biological. One can be female in sex but masculine in orientation, or the opposite, or anywhere on the continuium that is sex and gender.

BrokenDoll -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 3:01:06 PM)
Um and you say he was a wise Master???

mstrjx -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 5:05:10 PM)
A Master who would think like that would probably be more apt to say..... A slave has holes. That's all I (that master) need to know. And I'll use the one I wish when I get around to it. Jeff

Misstoyou -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 5:20:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: houseslave a Wise Master once toldl me "slaves have no gender....they're just slaves." Do any Masters agree with Him? disagree? Happily, mine do have a gender.

toy2006 -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 5:24:36 PM)
Not only do slaves have gender, they are people.....

MasterFireMaam -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 6:10:20 PM)
A quote from a wise slave (my friend slave barb), "slaves have gender, slavery does not." Master Fire

Frank01 -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 7:35:52 PM)
A slave should put the sense of cooperating with authority as thier first identification. The rest should follow behind that.

LadyMorgynn -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 9:49:52 PM)
I'll second this. quote: ORIGINAL: BrokenDoll Um and you say he was a wise Master???

BlkTallFullfig -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 10:57:00 PM)
I suppose one doesn't need a gender to be a slave, but mine better come in the form of a male, or he cannot be my slave, because I plan to use him that way.... M

zero69u2 -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 11:22:13 PM)
which 15 year old wise gor master told you this ? obviously since he'll never have sex in his cyber world.. gender has no meaning in his slaves. they are just slaves.. or maybe its a objectification to remove your sexual gender.. breaking down your female superority.. by removing your gender and making you just a slave.. To be just a slave.. or just a object to be used.. kinda defeats the purpose of having a smart sexy sassy slave.. perhaps he isn't as wise as he claims.. but have to know what the context around this statement was to really figure out his meaning.

Frank01 -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (9/30/2006 11:24:46 PM)
Objectifying sex to service status is a reminder that no one has ascendancy over an owner by allure.

puella -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (10/1/2006 6:29:41 AM)
I am wondering why you would consider someone wise who did not recognize gender in a person just because they were owned? No offense, but that is one of the dumbest statements I have ever heard, beyond perhaps acknowledging him as some sort of wisdom guru.

NYMaster101 -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (10/1/2006 7:32:26 AM)
Slaves have gender.

topcat -> RE: do slaves have a gender? (10/1/2006 7:33:55 AM)
Dear HS- I'd put it more as M. Fire's friend did, but I quite agree. 'Slave' transends (or subsumes) gender, IMO. While the uses to which one might put a slave might be dependant on their corpus, it is slave that defines them- not gender. Stay warm, Lawrence

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