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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

Sir Kenin,

That is awfully subjective.



It has always grated on my nerves when a man decides its his job in life to inform women about how to take care of their bodies.

I hope that you are getting your prostate checked, and doing ass cheek firming exercises on a regular basis... Nothing is sadder to see a man who lets his ass cheeks get saggy.

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That is nonsense.  I know someone very well that is a 42 E that the boobs and nipples are nice and perky.  It is only if you sit down or lean forwards that they should point down.  Otherwise they should not sag too much and point downwards unless you do not look after your body or let the muscles in your chest go to shit.  Do not get Me wrong.  I have seen ugly boobs that point downwards as you mentioned, but I have seen plenty in that size that are nice and perky and even firm..  mmmmm.

While I would not express myself quite so forcefully on this matter as SirKenin and I must admit my research is mostly theoretical but I do happen to think he is right. lol

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I am a freak in some ways, my boobs improved with nursing my son,

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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Now am wondering why I'm arguing with men over breasts???   M   

Because men are the one's that nibble on them... lol  [:D]  Unless of course you are lesbian or bi, but we can not confuse the issue here.  lol

I have seen women in their 50's with big, firm breasts, so I am not sure how much age accounts for it.  I have also seen teenagers with their panties and their bra incorporated into one unit.  heh.   So, there has to be more to the story than gravity and age.  I am thinking of one particular example.  Two women, roughly the same age.  One with an extremely large chest and chubby, the other slender with a very small chest.  The first women is perky and firm, the second is saggy and squishy, like a beanie baby.   How do you explain that one?

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Mmmm. They are really firm. My wife loves them. Want a pic? I have given one to everyone else. Might as well give one to you too. [8D]

Hai, I do not care if it grates on your nerves or not, really. Everybody is entitled to their opinion. You are not obligated to give heed to Mine. But, sometimes, for some women, it helps having thoughts from the other side of the fence. See, like it or not it is the men that they are trying to impress. As a matter of fact the OP cares about it so much she started a potentially embarassing post to ask for advice.

It just so happens I know My boobies inside and out.. lol.. and I know what works, and if you do not like it I guess that is just too bad, eh? There have been a lot of good suggestions here. I cannot recommend a particular bra (well, I can, but I do not even know if they are available in the USA, so I will not bother), but I can certainly tell you well known methods to help improve the saggy issue (there are particular exercises you can use to bring your chest muscles back in shape) and I can certainly tell you some things that guys find appealing. If you decide that is not for you, oh well. No skin off My nose.

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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

juliaoceania:

I suppose that is a just a difference in our own perspectives. I generally bristle at the idea of a man being arrogant about anything to do with a woman's body. This being outside of BDSM, and a particular irritation of mine.

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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

AH HA.

I knew you fucking had tits.

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And... noooooo I don't want a butt pick. Jeez are Doms now trying to show their crap to me too. wtf.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen;
 
I would like to mention, that men do suffer from breast cancer.
 
We all need to help each other gently, when it comes to minding personal health. 
 
One reason I do like protocol, when slaves offer their chest/breasts, their genitals and their behind and their mouth, it is just as much reaffirming their body is mine or is being offered (if submissive and not slave) but, it is also a dominant's peak opportunity to examine the slave/submissive's body for any signs of change, damage, bruises not healing, moles changing color or size, discharges and the like.
 
The slaves/submissive can do the dominants a favor when they give their Master/Mistress a bath and or perform Master/Mistress maintainence.
 
Just a few thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin

Dry and banter is always good. Sarcasm works too. I delight in good sarcasm for some stupid reason.

I do have boobies, incidentally. They are installed on a life support system sitting in the livingroom, reading a book (Helter Skelter I believe). [8D] It is a real bitch carrying it out to the car, but there is nothing like molesting boobies while you are driving down the street.

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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

Sir Kenin:

*pout* Didn't you see the edit?

At this point I think we have what I like to refer to as "Playful banter" yes? My banter tends to be a LITTLE more dry and teasing. NOT anal (although really there you go with mentioning butt related stuff, you rogue!)

Hm. What else could I bristle at?

And of course I don't know more than a gyno. Its more like... the average man. Although as a side note I do not visit male doctors for my own personal reasons. *shudder*

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ORIGINAL: SirKenin


What the real issue here is that real men do not insult a woman about her boobs.  That does not mean that she has nice boobs.  It just means that they have enough class to not say anything and just grin and bear it.  

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I have never told a woman that she has ugly boobs, but I have seen My fair share, believe Me...  Meanwhile, at the bar, I promise you that it is a whole different story