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Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:06:23 AM   
mistoferin


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Status: offline 		Is anyone watching this on the news? I swear, this world is falling apart!

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:13:23 AM   
janna30


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Status: offline 		Can't see the news right now (at work) but news sites don't have much on it at the moment...  Just sketchy details.  Though why should you be surprised?  Rage and unhappiness are universal... 

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:17:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		It was just on BBC evening news.

I wonder what else goes on in these communities that we never hear anything about? It must be a happy place for all kinds of behaviours.
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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:17:07 AM   
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Though why should you be surprised?  Rage and unhappiness are universal... 


Wow....have we become so desensitized to violence that we should no longer be shocked and sickened by the slaughter of innocent children?

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:17:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ja, lotta people tired of having six-fingers.............

Unfortunately, the amish will not be following this in the media, in large numbers (oh, sure; the occasional one at the bus station, or working at an auslanders heim).


it is ALL wrong...................it just ain't that worth gettin' cranked up about.

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:27:01 AM   
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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:40:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sickened and troubled....  yes.  Shocked?  No.  Your statement seemed to imply that because they're Amish they're somehow immune from the sort of violence that affects schools all over the country.  I merely pointed out that such things happen everywhere and no community is immune.

Btw, if any of you are interested in school shootings and such, there's a wonderful (but very difficult to read) book out by Lionel Shriver called "We Need to Talk About Kevin"  Definitely worth reading....

All the best,
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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 10:47:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		We had a massacre here in Canadad over two weeks ago - the counrty came to a stand still.
It is very unfortunate - especially when it happens to those who are non-violet and pacifists. Children should never be targets or victims, for someone's twisted warped mind.
We have a large Amish and Mennonite population here in southwestern Ontario - and this will be taken very hard.
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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 12:22:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		There was an article in the USA Today about a town council in Idaho suggesting that all homes in the area be armed because of the sprawl of Boise and Boise a well known crime center of the planet that violent crime was on the way. Now I read about another tragedy in a school and I keep waiting for people to float the notion to arm the teachers.

There appears to be violence everywhere in the world and children are not being left out. It is just not about guns and their availibillity as there seems to be endless ways to kill people. It is sad but probably true that we human beings are not evolving like we think we are.

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 12:52:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Of course I am in agreement.............but hold on everyone.

I grew up with guns and stuff.  If I would have tried to take a gun to school (other than unloaded for show and tell, which many did in those days)......one of my parents would have said......................well, it would have involved question marks and all kinda punctuation, culminating in a so not happening scenario..........further, if I would have went to school and shot anybody, the beating I would have had to taken at the hands of my old man would have presciently forbid my having collapsed the wave function to that little copenhagen interpretation.

The PC with kids and the divorce rate is the root cause of alot of this ruckus.

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 12:54:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I read that book.  It's difficult subject matter.  It's fiction that reads like non-fiction

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 1:40:51 PM   
janna30


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Status: offline 		Yes...  I read it when I was six months pregnant...  So not a book you want to read when you're about to bring a human being into this world.  On the other hand, I'd like to see it be required reading for anyone planning on having kids. ;)

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 3:41:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: toservez

There was an article in the USA Today about a town council in Idaho suggesting that all homes in the area be armed because of the sprawl of Boise and Boise a well known crime center of the planet that violent crime was on the way. Now I read about another tragedy in a school and I keep waiting for people to float the notion to arm the teachers.

There appears to be violence everywhere in the world and children are not being left out. It is just not about guns and their availibillity as there seems to be endless ways to kill people. It is sad but probably true that we human beings are not evolving like we think we are.



toserve, arming teachers? I don't think it would be a bad Idea.

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 3:43:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just heard it on the news... Just shocked and don't understand right now.   M

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 4:34:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: toservez
Now I read about another tragedy in a school and I keep waiting for people to float the notion to arm the teachers.


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toserve, arming teachers? I don't think it would be a bad Idea.

 
Good idea. But what if the teacher starts shooting the pupils? Better to put an armed mom in the classroom as well.

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 4:37:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Old Order Amish refuse that notion. The are non-violent.
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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 4:41:31 PM   
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Is anyone watching this on the news? I swear, this world is falling apart!


Has there been any further information, such as why an Amish school and why were the male children released?     

And, yes I agree.  The world may have advanced in technology, but it is sorely lacking in humanity. 

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 4:43:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rule, I don't know but SOMEONE in schools should be armed.
We obviously don't have enough Cops to be in schools everyday so what do you do?

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 4:43:23 PM   
LadyJulieAnn


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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: toservez
Now I read about another tragedy in a school and I keep waiting for people to float the notion to arm the teachers.


quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250
toserve, arming teachers? I don't think it would be a bad Idea.

 
Good idea. But what if the teacher starts shooting the pupils? Better to put an armed mom in the classroom as well.


Sad to say, but that would be the next step based on the armed teacher logic.  *shakes head*  No wonder other countries think every home in America contains a gun.

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RE: Amish School Shooting - 10/2/2006 4:45:34 PM   
PlayfulOne


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Status: offline 		It apparently had nothing to do with the Amish,  the school was just close to him.  From the note he left his wife he has been holding a grudge for 20 years, I guess some little girl wronged him back in grade school.

I just can't wrap my head around how anyone could do something like that to children.

K

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