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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/3/2006 12:38:06 PM   
dublinsub


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How can something so intensely painful, and that renders you so utterly vulnerable, be so damn appealing?


My tolerance has increased over time. In my view there is nothing like the joy of total submission to a Mistress (particularly an Irish one! ) who knows that what you are enduring is all for her. 

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/3/2006 1:01:36 PM   
MistressDolly


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Status: offline 		The more sexually charged you are, the higher your pain tolerence will be.   Start off slow. 

You may discover the SM part of BDSM isnt for you.

Have fun.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/3/2006 6:22:34 PM   
undergroundsea


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Status: offline 		What can increase with time is one's ability to process pain. People who regularly play with intense pain have several techniques they use for such processing. I am not an authority on the subject but have caught wind of it here and there to know that such techniques exist. If that topic is of interest to you, you might get more responses on a thread about processing pain placed in the Ask a Submissive/Slave forum.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/3/2006 6:38:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MisPandora
But that's the wash -- when you're IN a situation/relationship with that sensible dominant woman, you can wrap your mind around the fact that she knows she  holds the keys to your body, your mind, your heart and your psyche AND that she does so in a caring, sensible and responsible manner.
Very well put MisPandora...  I think this (and let's face most types) of play does require trust which essentially happens when one takes a leap of faith and trusts his/her own instincts/sensibility.
I can't belive no one has mentioned the book "The Family Jewels" http://www.amazon.com/Family-Jewels-Guide-Genital-Torment/dp/1890159344 which for me was initially incredibly scary, but a wonderful resource in the end.    M

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/3/2006 7:04:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MisPandora

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ORIGINAL: hoss78412

As I approach the date of my first-ever "play session", I can't help but wonder about one activity in particular: CBT.  How can something so intensely painful, and that renders you so utterly vulnerable, be so damn appealing?


Perhaps it's your naievity, but ......CBT doesn't have to be painful at all.



      Just because something looks incredibly painful, doesn't mean your mind is going to process it that way.  It might just come through as a very powerful (and erotic) sensation.  Funny how the mind works.

    Excuse me, I'm going to go ask the wife if she still has that clothespin zipper.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/3/2006 9:13:00 PM   
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Yes, I think MsPandora offers a great description.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 6:10:42 AM   
Aubre


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Status: offline 		Torture does not have to involve pain.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 6:25:27 AM   
Nikolette


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Status: offline 		So are we talking subjectively here what "torture" means for us, or what it COULD mean in BDSM, or how different people react to painful things? Or fucking with someone's brain about what MIGHT happen? Because...... ........

torture n

1. the inflicting of severe physical pain on somebody, for example, as punishment or to persuade somebody to confess or recant something
2. the methods used to inflict physical pain on people
3. mental or physical anguish

vt

1. to inflict extreme pain or physical punishment on people
2. to cause somebody mental or physical anguish
3. to twist or distort something into an unnatural form

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 6:29:56 AM   
Zinja2007


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Status: offline 		Nikolette - I just noticed your quotes; I too study Eastern philosophy and LOVE Alan Watts.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 6:39:44 AM   
Nikolette


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Status: offline 		*grins* Very cool. I have had a couple people tell me they liked Alan Watts, or the quote.


Do you have a profile on the other side?

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 7:02:16 AM   
marieToo


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ORIGINAL: Nikolette

So are we talking subjectively here what "torture" means for us, or what it COULD mean in BDSM, or how different people react to painful things? Or fucking with someone's brain about what MIGHT happen? Because...... ........

torture n

1. the inflicting of severe physical pain on somebody, for example, as punishment or to persuade somebody to confess or recant something
2. the methods used to inflict physical pain on people
3. mental or physical anguish

vt

1. to inflict extreme pain or physical punishment on people
2. to cause somebody mental or physical anguish
3. to twist or distort something into an unnatural form


Problem is that some people process torture as pleasure.  But the bottom line is that its "still" torture (or pain). 

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 7:02:41 AM   
Zinja2007


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Status: offline 		I wish.  Been having so much trouble trying to get my profile going - picture wise.  Been a mess.  Half get rejected, then I get an email saying it's been restored but it doesnt actually ever show up.  I send in another - no artwork, no copyright infringment and no nudity  but THAT gets rejected too.  I tried to get a new profile under this name and it's yet it's proving to be yet another abortive attempt.



Have you read: Man, Nature and Woman by him?  I read all of his books and just love him!

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 7:19:54 AM   
Nikolette


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Status: offline 		im?

email? If so send me a line so we don't clutter up the forum:

yueefaa at yahoo im

or [email protected] im/email


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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 7:39:55 AM   
ToGiveDivine


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Status: offline 		Well, the consensus seems to suggest I don't know what I'm talking about (which is actually a true statement) - so I'll withdraw my comments until I have real knowledge in which to speak intelligently.

Sorry for any shit stirrage I may have contributed.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 7:44:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine
Well, the consensus seems to suggest I don't know what I'm talking about (which is actually a true statement) - so I'll withdraw my comments until I have real knowledge in which to speak intelligently.

Sorry for any shit stirrage I may have contributed.
Oh no lil boy, we didn't mean to hurt your feelings; please stay!  We've got candy.  M

< Message edited by BlkTallFullfig -- 10/4/2006 7:45:15 AM >

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 8:02:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine
Well, the consensus seems to suggest I don't know what I'm talking about (which is actually a true statement) - so I'll withdraw my comments until I have real knowledge in which to speak intelligently.

Sorry for any shit stirrage I may have contributed.
Oh no lil boy, we didn't mean to hurt your feelings; please stay!  We've got candy.  M


My feelings aren't hurt - I made uninformed comments and was called on the table because of it - it's more embarrassing than anything, but I'll survive.

I just need to learn to listen more and talk less.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 8:53:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine


I thought your comment about the vulnerability was an insightful post. And I agree with a point you suggest; there are dommes who value subs and those that do not, and the trick is for a sub who seeks a caring domme to be able to distinguish caring ones from those who do not care much about the person. I am optimistic that in the places I put myself, I will mostly encounter caring ones.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 10:30:13 AM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: Aubre

Torture does not have to involve pain.

That's my point.  It could be humiliation....laughing at the one inch worm, or dressing it up in a costume, or drawing on it with permanent marker....or a ton of other things that have nothing to do with physical pain.

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 3:05:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: undergroundsea
I thought your comment about the vulnerability was an insightful post. And I agree with a point you suggest; there are dommes who value subs and those that do not, and the trick is for a sub who seeks a caring domme to be able to distinguish caring ones from those who do not care much about the person
Sea
I agree with you that his statement is insghtful;  what I wanted to convey is that one's ability to choose wisely, and trust isn't as much a lifestyle issue as it is a grown adult issue of being responsible for yourself and your choices issue.   M   

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RE: Tolerance for CBT - 10/4/2006 3:06:25 PM   
MisPandora


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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine

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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

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ORIGINAL: ToGiveDivine
Well, the consensus seems to suggest I don't know what I'm talking about (which is actually a true statement) - so I'll withdraw my comments until I have real knowledge in which to speak intelligently.

Sorry for any shit stirrage I may have contributed.
Oh no lil boy, we didn't mean to hurt your feelings; please stay!  We've got candy.  M


My feelings aren't hurt - I made uninformed comments and was called on the table because of it - it's more embarrassing than anything, but I'll survive.

I just need to learn to listen more and talk less.

Your post was thoughtful, and there is no reason for you to leave.

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