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Rumtiger -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 4:47:24 PM)
shes 24, I'm gonna say hes around 30

OhReallyNow -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 4:50:51 PM)
this slave is sorry but she is jumping on the side that says its not your business. If she chose this man, then obviously she is supporting what he is doing. This slave refuses to believe that she is unaware that you have been told to back off. *No offense, but let's face it. She is obviously adult enough to choose him; then she's adult enough to understand the ground rules that he is setting down.*

LotusSong -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 4:56:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rumtiger So...is it right that I told him to fuck off and eat my shit? Or should I have dropped him then and there? Still a possibility next time I see him outside. Who the fuck does this guy think he is to say this shit to me, I don't think many male doms are like this right? No.. you are the one that needs to "f" off then. You never know.. she may have asked him to intercede for her. He could be testing her loyalty.. could be anything. Tuck away your testosterone and hurt pride and give her the space she needs. You will then put in the enviable spot of being the strong shoulder she runs to for comfort if things fail.

Rumtiger -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:00:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LotusSong quote: ORIGINAL: Rumtiger So...is it right that I told him to fuck off and eat my shit? Or should I have dropped him then and there? Still a possibility next time I see him outside. Who the fuck does this guy think he is to say this shit to me, I don't think many male doms are like this right? No.. you are the one that needs to "f" off then. You never know.. she may have asked him to intercede for her. He could be testing her loyalty.. could be anything. Tuck away your testosterone and hurt pride and give her the space she needs. You will then put in the enviable spot of being the strong shoulder she runs to for comfort if things fail. If what you say is true in that she possibly asked him to do this, then fuck her if it fails, if this is whats happened then she betrayed me as a friend and I dont forgive that for anything.

Rumtiger -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:05:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OhReallyNow this slave is sorry but she is jumping on the side that says its not your business. If she chose this man, then obviously she is supporting what he is doing. This slave refuses to believe that she is unaware that you have been told to back off. *No offense, but let's face it. She is obviously adult enough to choose him; then she's adult enough to understand the ground rules that he is setting down.* No offense, but thats horseshit, i've seen plenty of abusive relationships with domineering boyfirends who do this exact same thing, and during the course of the whole relationship will beat the girls all the while saying they still love him. We've all seen these abusive relationships, hell some of us have been in them before. You gonna say that they are perfectly okay just because said girl is grown up?

LotusSong -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:06:25 PM)
Like I said, Tiger.. it could be anything. Just don't burn your bridges. She wants to experience a Dom.. this is part of it.

Rumtiger -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:11:29 PM)
No Lotus, you suggested I should be the one to fuck off from the friend i've known for close to 5 years. She isent some newbie, and she isent a slave. Hell its because of her that I was able to get certian doors opened to get deeper into the lifestyle to the point where I am now, so its not like she has some contract or is giving herself over to this guy, she simply has this guy for a boyfriend who is a dom and shes a sub.

OhReallyNow -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:11:39 PM)
quote: No offense, but thats horseshit, i've seen plenty of abusive relationships with domineering boyfirends who do this exact same thing, and during the course of the whole relationship will beat the girls all the while saying they still love him. We've all seen these abusive relationships, hell some of us have been in them before. You gonna say that they are perfectly okay just because said girl is grown up? *Ok, so now you are saying that what she is in is an abusive relationship? You know this for a FACT?* this slave see's nothing in your previous posts to state that this is the case. Based on the information given, which this slave will say is biased anyway; but based on the information given, she stands by her statements. All you have shown is that you are pissed off over the fact that some man had the unmitigated gall to tell you to leave his property alone. Well, umm, this slave can only say...welcome to the real world. HE HAS THAT RIGHT. And unless your umm, friend has said otherwise over the duration of their relationship, you have no right to interfer. quote: If what you say is true in that she possibly asked him to do this, then fuck her if it fails, if this is whats happened then she betrayed me as a friend and I dont forgive that for anything. *this slave finds your words here to be a true testimony to your character.* *good luck in what ever life brings you, you are going to need it.*

Rumtiger -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:14:47 PM)
Property? I said she, like me, is a sub...we arent slaves, theres no property here, not everyone into being the bottom has to be a slave you know?

AAkasha -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:15:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rumtiger If what you say is true in that she possibly asked him to do this, then fuck her if it fails, if this is whats happened then she betrayed me as a friend and I dont forgive that for anything. With friends like that, who needs enemas. Akasha

DiurnalVampire -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:15:35 PM)
Though it is not an unusual request... it is defiantely a disturbing flag from a Dom. It would be one thing if you were a Dom and he wanted you to back off while she was beginning her training. However, any Dom who is so lacking in confidence that he needs to cut his girl off from any male contact aside from him is a bad thing. Do I think you were wrong telling him off, not necessarily. Maybe your wording could have been better, but I understand the sentiment. A fight is a bad idea, aside from the legal implications, it gives him something to use against you. Even if he loses the fight, he can then go back to your friend and tel her how disrespectful you are and make you out as a "bad influence" And who does he think he is? He is a Dom, and he is speaking for his property. Does she even know he considers her his property? Letting her know what has gone on might open her eyes a bit to where her relationship is going with him. If she doesnt know how he is thinking about her, and might not be thrilled with the idea, this might change things. I know damn wel, I would have reacted differently. I have a hot temper, so I would have had my friend on the phone minutes after the guy was out of my sight. But thats just me. DV

OhReallyNow -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:16:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rumtiger Property? I said she, like me, is a sub...we arent slaves, theres no property here, not everyone into being the bottom has to be a slave you know? *would you care to address the rest please*

mistoferin -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:25:04 PM)
Rum, You know your friend in ways that none of us possibly can. I guess in the end that knowledge is what you are going to have to use to make your decisions. On a personal level, if any man ever thought I was not responsible enough to make my own decisions regarding friends and family...well he would not be a man that would be in my company long. Furthermore, any man whoever chose to disrespect a friend or family member of mine in such a manner as this man did would most likely get my foot up his ass on his way out the door. If I choose to end a friendship I am perfectly capable of doing so myself. But hey...that's just me.

Rumtiger -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:28:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OhReallyNow quote: ORIGINAL: Rumtiger Property? I said she, like me, is a sub...we arent slaves, theres no property here, not everyone into being the bottom has to be a slave you know? *would you care to address the rest please* Fine. You know damn well I dident say she was in an abusive relationship, I said i've seen the same thing happen in relationships that where abusive with asshole boyfriends. If he had indeed done anything wrong I'm pretty sure she would have mentioned something over the past several months, then again maybe she dident cause she knows I likely would have hunted the motherfucker down. You have some fucking nerve to think you can give me the "welcome to the real world" speech. Not everyone in the world is someone else's property, not every person who likes BDSM has to be told what to do and how to live. And most importantly, no he DOES NOT have the fucking right to tell me what to do or anyone else unless they actually give themselves to him as a slave which she did not. You mind explaining what the cute little "Umm Friend" comment was about?

Rumtiger -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:29:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DiurnalVampire Though it is not an unusual request... it is defiantely a disturbing flag from a Dom. It would be one thing if you were a Dom and he wanted you to back off while she was beginning her training. However, any Dom who is so lacking in confidence that he needs to cut his girl off from any male contact aside from him is a bad thing. Do I think you were wrong telling him off, not necessarily. Maybe your wording could have been better, but I understand the sentiment. A fight is a bad idea, aside from the legal implications, it gives him something to use against you. Even if he loses the fight, he can then go back to your friend and tel her how disrespectful you are and make you out as a "bad influence" And who does he think he is? He is a Dom, and he is speaking for his property. Does she even know he considers her his property? Letting her know what has gone on might open her eyes a bit to where her relationship is going with him. If she doesnt know how he is thinking about her, and might not be thrilled with the idea, this might change things. I know damn wel, I would have reacted differently. I have a hot temper, so I would have had my friend on the phone minutes after the guy was out of my sight. But thats just me. DV I had to wait, shes been working.

Sinergy -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:31:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rumtiger No offense, but thats horseshit, i've seen plenty of abusive relationships with domineering boyfirends who do this exact same thing, and during the course of the whole relationship will beat the girls all the while saying they still love him. We've all seen these abusive relationships, hell some of us have been in them before. You gonna say that they are perfectly okay just because said girl is grown up? Hello Rumtiger, While I understand (and agree with) what you are saying, the reality of the situation is that you are not in a position to do anything about their dog and pony show. You involve yourself in the seething turmoil they call a relationship, and after the explosion and blow up and fighting and everything else, she testifies in court that you started it and you end up in jail. Dysfunctional relationships seldom have much fun in them for everybody else forced to be involved in them. You might find what I am about to say to be unpleasant. I would suggest that the smartest thing you could do would be to turn around and walk away. She has your phone number and can contact you if she changes her mind. Good luck! Sinergy

PlayfulOne -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:39:00 PM)
Nothing still adds up. There is something here thats not getting shared 6 months then this, there is something else in the air. It may not be something you did but something she said. If you had for a moment kept your cool and asked what was up instead of getting into a pissing contest with him it might could have been easily settled. You stated you never asked her about her relatinoship, but you keep saying you know what she has or has not agreed to or done. Actually you don't, yoiu are assuming from things yoiu have known but since you never wanted to talk to her about it you really don't know. My little one was a sub when we found one another and there are people who would be shocked to find that she now calls herself my slave. Hence again if you kept your cool for a moment you might could have gotten a few answers. K

KatyLied -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:40:01 PM)
It's hard for me to tell what's going on here. Is he jealous? Is she trying to make him jealous? Is he indulging in a control kink? Either way, I have to agree, now's the time to create some distance between you and them.

WyrdRich -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:41:11 PM)
Been there. No lifestyle issues involved, just a very dear friend. I told him to butt out of a much longer term relationship. Wound up having a very nice coercive chat with him after he got nasty in the break-up.

DiurnalVampire -> RE: The right thing (10/3/2006 5:41:55 PM)
OhReallyNow, I hate to disagre, but he does NOT have that right unless she has agreed to it. And there is a chance she has not. Sub, slave or property, a master or mistress controlls whom is THEIRS. Telling his girl to stay away is one thing, and if the relationship has gotte to that point, then that is wel within his right. However, I dont see him having the right to tell anyone else what to do. Maybe it is ust the way I see things, and anyone who wishes is free to disagree. However, having been in situations like this before, I have always taken offense to Doms/Dommes who come to me and tell me that their sub, who I have been friends with for X number of years, is not offlimits for whatever reason. You want to tell your sub I am offlimits, g for it. But do not tink that just becasue you own someone means you can tell me what to do. Trust your sub to do as you ask, do not go out looking for reinforcement and hoping she wont be tempted. To me, that looks like he doesnt think telling his girl would work. DV

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