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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 7:45:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Voltare

1) Don't get involved in long distance relationships.
2) Don't get involved in long distance relationships.



I don't agree with this. It's alot harder when it's long distance and yes it may not last. But the person could live 3 blocks away and it still might not last.

I think if you find someone and the distance is atleast doable, then it's worth it, no matter how long it lasts. Happiness for a little while is better then none at all.

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 8:23:08 AM   
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I think in general these 16 rules are good ones. Webcams seem to be the thing standing out for most people, also I am solving that by using a digital camera.

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 10:14:02 AM   
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Wowwwwwwwwwwwww.... i cant believe i saw a post from Mistress Dread!!!!  Where the heck has she been?  Quite a few other people i saw posting too..........

Good deal writing this thread Stephan!


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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 6:52:16 PM   
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Yes, I agree with everything SherriA says. I do and have used my Web Cam, but the lighting stinks. and I HATE to use the phone.

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 8:07:07 PM   
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what an excellent post for this site or any online dating site. I have found out some shocking things by googling someone.When i got online, which was recent a friend cautioned me there was a good deal of fantasy that comes with the internet, even if the other person isnt misrepresenting themselves

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 8:07:25 PM   
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If someone has a spouse, and in their house that spouse is outta the room the webcam is filming in (wow that sounded like Green Eggs and Ham, ack), the webcam won't be proof  that they are single and ready to mingle (whoops, sorry again!).  Or have no kids, or have the job they claim, or anything apart from the physical.

Even then, the physical is only proven if there is a "control for the experiment", i.e. you have already heard the person's voice on the phone so you can cross referrence that with the voice on the webcam.

If necessary to have that cross referrence, one does not need a webcam pers se.  most digi cameras from 5 years ago onward will allow one to make a quicktime movie.  These are easily converted to small file size MP4 using freeware at a small d'load size readily available.

someone could say "well, a quicktime mov.file or wmv or mpeg pr mp4 is no proof because it's not in real time..."

well, such a person would never have seen any version of Cyrano (in which faking out the potential lover was done in "real time").  Anyone can get a pal to do a webbiecammy for them if the friend is willing, but that would take some effort, generaly more than most would put up with.  Same with a small file size movie file, so basically, you can be as "honest" sans webbiecammy" and any hardware with a usb port as you can with those little crappy balls sitting by the PC or mac that look like the MIni Me of Hal 3000 from 2001 A Space Oddity (pun and mispelling intended).

In fact, using basic dumb-ass freeware such as moviemaker on win xp will allow you to "be honest" about your height, weight, booty size, bald spot for the man or not, with less effort than it takes to set up a youtube acount and upload a crappy "here is my kittycat, ain;t he cute" piece of shit.

But allows you to remain anonymous (you just use the edit effects succh as "grain" plus another if really worried).

This allows you/them to verify the footage is "you now" versus "you 5 or ten years ago" (because voices change noticably in 5-10 years), WITHOUT giving anyone a "mugshot" that can bite you in the ass.

So it's not about web, or webcams or "privacy", it's basically about  if you want/are willing to give the potential partner a realistic barometer/expectation of your looks.  If not, fine, but the privacy excuse is no longer valid, for male or female.  Neither is the "I don't want to just send possible wank material" bullshit.  You can send stuff fully clothed and still be sexy (or not) with a "PG 13" rating and the other person will have at least some reassurance you ain't no bulshitter, of either gender. 

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 8:20:38 PM   
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In life there are no guarentees. These suggestions just help one feel comfortable about meeting a stranger.I don't know if any of you agree, but people never seem like their picture or webcam. People that have taken recent pictures even. Not because they are trying to decieve but because a photo is a moment in time, even on webcam you do not see how a person moves. I would say a video of someone in a room at a party would be accurate if that is what was important to you. You would see how that person moves thru space and his relative size to other people. When someone is very tall or very short it is a bit distorted in a pic because your mind makes them a regular size. One of the most beautiful men i had ever seen pictures of met me at eh gym where I work recently. He was so much smaller than  I imagined, it really threw me,

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 8:37:07 PM   
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In life there are no guarentees. These suggestions just help one feel comfortable about meeting a stranger.I don't know if any of you agree, but people never seem like their picture or webcam. People that have taken recent pictures even. Not because they are trying to decieve but because a photo is a moment in time, even on webcam you do not see how a person moves. I would say a video of someone in a room at a party would be accurate if that is what was important to you. You would see how that person moves thru space and his relative size to other people. When someone is very tall or very short it is a bit distorted in a pic because your mind makes them a regular size. One of the most beautiful men i had ever seen pictures of met me at eh gym where I work recently. He was so much smaller than  I imagined, it really threw me,

Look, I'm sure for you and many this is true, but there's a limit, and there have been years of studies into how men are so much more visually attracted and willing to "go for it" on the base of that than women, so sadly this will always (ofr the most part) come down to a gender diff.  I do not speak for men in the following statement, but I do for many I know:

"a moment in time" if it shows that a bodytype/look" is even 70% what someone claims in e-mail is perfectly valid.  No matter how they "move through the room" at a party and converse, if they call themselves (in e-mail) "Mae West" and they are really "Rosie O'Donnell", then sorry, they've fibbed, even if they did not mean to. And that kinda fib often means other kinda fibs, just like women complain about men making.

Also, I have met more than several women off the net, whom provided pics/whatever.  In my life, the women willing to provide those (and I always provided my own for them in return, no matter how "not up to scratch" I felt I was), were ALWAYS accurate, right down to bodtype by male standards.

Which often is very different to how women look at bodytype descr5iptions.  I told a woman whom wanted to meet me I liked Bette Midler body types.  She wrote back (sans pic) and said she was "very Bette Midler".

She was not.  She was very Toni Collette at Toni's LOWEST "curves".  I politely brought this up and she stated "well, I have Bette's personality and curly hair and can sing".

Uh, YEAH, granted, but that had jack shit with what I was talking about. 
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Now before you think me a troll or "visual first dammit" ogre, I met her anyway, we did date, mixed results, but still, just as a woman can prefer a male whom has more than a monosylabic vocabulary and a job, the male can say he wants a woman whom looks like a woman rather than some fashion runway sylph.  (no offense to sylphs)  Especially since so many women complain that guys want the sylphs at the expense of curvier women anyway.



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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 8:46:10 PM   
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I too hate the web cam too many dom have said, well girl i want to see you masterbate.  If you want to prove yourself to me you will do it, my remark was the same to all F____ You and I pulled the cable.  And others were hey girl do you want to see what I have for you.  Look here little girl,  I then get to watch him do a hand job.  yippee,  no I hate web cams.  I threw mine in the trash and.have no plans to ever buy another one. 

On long distance moving, I think that should be handeled by each one on how they feel.  I am talking to a Dom who lives in NC, I live in Oh.  I am relocating to NC but i was planning to move anyway so it is all my expenses.
We plan to get to know each other now through email and phone and so that by the time i move there we should be ready to meet.  If we click good if not then ok we wil be friends he will introduce me to the community there and we go our way.  I hope it works out this time. 


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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 8:53:23 PM   
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"too many dom have said, well girl i want to see you masterbate"
 
Well, THAT is just crass and cockless and spineless and making a guy be embarrassed to be male as ALL HELL.

I don't know this guy, but damn I hope his job means he has to move away to a place where he never bothers to contact you or any other woman. Except people that get paid for that sort of thing because even though I haven't made that barter, those women are more honest than Neo Cons and deserve work too.

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/22/2007 11:51:16 PM   
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Oh from what i hear from female friends in the vanilla world the wanting her to get herself off on cam while he does. is pretty universal. Seems to be why Men usually have to pay for that on porn webcam sites . My women friends say once they do anything erotic on cam for a man all conversation stops after that and its all about take off that blouse for me. I have seen alot of men on cam and they are always eager to show it all, no problem. I think for heteros is another story. So much more convenient to be with men. Thats why tho I am Bi i usually stick with men.Not shy. Oh no

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/25/2007 10:10:04 PM   
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Devilslilsister,

I wrote this thread about two years ago; it seems someone bumped it back up (so no, Dread hasn't returned that I know of.)  Yet skimming it again, I still stand by everything I read.

Just tonight, I was in a chat venue, talking with someone.  They were new to that venue, and claimed they were the person in their profile photo.  A quick look, and I instantly recognized her.... as 'megan'. She even went so far as to claim the cat in the profile photo was her own. 

I called her on the fib, and she finally admitted to the situation, profoundly embarrassed.  I doubt she will make that mistake again, in the near future.  The sad thing is that she finally showed me her photos, and she's quite an attractive mid 30ish woman.  The trouble is that little things like this tell me a lot about her - none of it good.  Her original justification was 'would you have talked to me if I had been honest?'  Since I'm not shopping for a girlfriend, obviously the answer was 'yes.'  It didn't matter to me what she looked like.  If that was the most important element of a woman, I wouldn't take the time and effort to engage in a conversation in the first place on the internet; I'd just go to a bar, and buy drinks for the prettiest women there, till I had some luck.  If people consider the amount of time and energy they invest into most online relationships, they will find that had they invested it into a part time job, they'd have a lot more money, and much better chances of meeting people based on appearance alone.

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/25/2007 10:32:41 PM   
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If I wasn't willing to do long-distence, I wouldn't be in the best relationship with my life. You can't say "don't do long-distence". You have to simply discover and accept if you are capable of doing a long-distence relationship. It doesn't work in most cases but guess what! Most local relationships don't work either. I really don't think it matters. If both people are willing to put in the effort and do what it takes to keep people happy then it has just as much chance of working as any other relationship.

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/29/2007 11:02:34 PM   
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Aquatic,

I can, did, and do say "Don't do Long Distance Relationships from the Internet." 

I also did, and do say that not every rule will apply to every person, in every situation - including me. 

Folks, kindly take advice like this with your own grains of salt.  It won't be my happiness or misery, one way or the other.

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RE: Dos and Don´ts - 1/30/2007 4:25:05 AM   
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Thanks Stephann, I think you offered some very good advice and gave me some food for thought today.

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