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"Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in Ten... - 10/5/2006 5:53:23 PM   
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Good read, I hate to condense it.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 6:02:56 PM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 6:05:59 PM   
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Kellogg Brown and Root Concentration Camps
Yes, you read that correctly. Concentration camps…on American soil. “Preposterous!” you say? Regrettably, quite a reality. KBR, a subsidiary of Cheney’s old stomping grounds, Haliburton, is at this moment building facilities to house and detain large numbers of people. Dow Jones Market Watch notes that the contract “which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs….”

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 6:16:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Even without looking at any of that, consider how the "war on drugs" provides plenty of cheap labor for Unicor and other contracted factory labor at the federal level. Been going on for years.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 6:18:15 PM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 6:46:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't have a problem with detention camps for illegal aliens temporarily until we can get them deported back to their own countries but that combining Canada, U.S., Mexico, and Central America? Time to go gun shopping!
The Second Amendment is one of our most important.
There should be a gun in every house just like Switzerland and Israel and people should train to use them!

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 6:47:37 PM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 6:53:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Julia, why would they even care about detaining me?
As a U.S. Citizen if they wanted to detain me there's enough jails.
Those places they're building will hold hundreds of thousands of illegals.
As far as I'm concerned they should start that tommorrow morning.

There's hundreds of thousands of guys like me, Veterans that they could Deputise to help out with illegal alien round-ups and that has in fact been mentioned by many people in Veterans orgs.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:04:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		    Nothing happens in a vacuum.  Expect these things to follow significant events (or events the media treats as significant) and with wide public support.

     The question is, will those who see the dangers in such inevitable events be able to preserve individual liberty in how they are implemented (speaking of the cash-free society, not the "internment" camps), or will those people have completely marginalized themselves before the real problems arise?

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:05:44 PM   
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Huh?

What Border?

I see illegal aliens just about every day taking away construction jobs that Americans USED to do.

What USED to be a DECENT wage I might add.

How much garbage are American workers supposed to take?

In Ten years I see American workers VS. Illegals in hand-to-hand combat in the streets if things don't change.

Mabye THAT is why they are building the CAMPS and passing NAZI-like unconstitutional police-state laws.....

TPTB KNOW what their policies are going to do to people.

Will it take yuppie white collar jobs to be replaced before anybody does something?



OOOPS...those are being replace by illegals,overseas and the undocumented too!!!

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:08:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will not allow the government to implant me with anything so they can track me and know where I am all the time... I would die for that freedom of control over my own being... the government can go fuck themselves, I will never be implanted

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:12:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Julia, do you see why it's important that The People in this country need to rise up and get rid of "NAFTA", the "U.N." Nato and a lot of other things?

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:14:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I do not see a problem with a UN type concept, I do see a problem with NAFTA

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:15:32 PM   
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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:18:57 PM   
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Do some reading about cashless society, about how some people already have a prototype of these chips, and about how they are being recommended for the harbor where my Dom works as a way of controlling who has access to the harbor.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:19:44 PM   
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I will not allow the government to implant me with anything so they can track me and know where I am all the time... I would die for that freedom of control over my own being... the government can go fuck themselves, I will never be implanted



     These grand conspiracy ideas are fun to play with sometimes.  The implant would probably be sold as a "convenience" and protection against identity theft.  Easy to say "never" now, but what happens when you can't use cash to pick up a gallon of milk?

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:21:55 PM   
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Julia, do you see why it's important that The People in this country need to rise up and get rid of "NAFTA", the "U.N." Nato and a lot of other things?


Say what you like about how much California sucks. At least we refused to allow Diebold to install computers to steal the election for the Republican Fascists in our state.

I used to tell gun nuts, err aficionados, that I suspected their .44 magnum would not be overly effective against A-10s or Abrams tanks when they tried to rise up.

But then Monkeyboy sent them all to Iraq, so you have a chance now.

I agree with dumping NAFTA.  I think the UN is a great idea, although I have issues with Lithuania being able to vote to save Rwanda as long as it was paid for and fought by somebody like the US.  NATO seems a bit anachronistic since we no longer have a mass raid threat from the Soviet Union to defend against.

Countries like China and Japan and the United States tried isolationism, but I believe we are all on the third rock from the sun and if we dont learn how to get along with each other, we are doomed to endless warfare and eventual extinction.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:31:10 PM   
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but what happens when you can't use cash to pick up a gallon of milk?


Get pissed off with a bunch of other people and take the milk.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:45:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sinergy, that assumes that people in the armed forces would fire on their own. They won't. (USN-USCG Ret.)
I just don't think that The People have enough say about what goes on in our govt.
The people in Washington don't listen to us but they don't seem to have any trouble listening to the wishes of big business.

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RE: "Ten Reasons You Will Not Recognize America in... - 10/5/2006 7:48:09 PM   
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but what happens when you can't use cash to pick up a gallon of milk?


Get pissed off with a bunch of other people and take the milk.


And get shot. Stealing isn't an answer, julia lol. There's always water to drink....

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