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What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:05:23 AM   
WhiteRadiance


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Status: offline 		Is there anything we can do within the "lifestyle" that will not be accepted? 
 
Do kinksters have the right to say they dislike certain activities, find them distasteful, abusive, or damaging? 
 
Case in point:
 
I have heard of several instances of Dom/mes punishing a slave by making them xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.  
 
I have heard of a Domme and sub being married and at the reception he was told to suck every dick and lick every pussy in the room. 
 
I have heard of a Master making his slave take a shit in front of a group of people.
 
 
Are there any here who find these things unacceptable, and if so, why?  Would you do these things, or have you done them? 
 
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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:09:03 AM   
gooddogbenji


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Status: offline 		As long as it's between consenting adults (no matter how many) it's not my problem.

I may not enjoy being part of any of those scenes, but that should not reduce anyone else's right to do these things.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:11:46 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		For me things pretty much hinge on that whole informed non-coerced consent thing when it comes to other humans.

There are still things that turn my stomach.  My partners tease me all the time about how extreme my tastes tend to be, but if I see ANY sort of messy food stuff going on (not even needing to be in a sexual way!) I run.

Rape play?  Blood play?  Religious sacrilege play?  Nazi guard and Jewish virgin play?  Non human play?  I'm all for!

But come at me with a squished banana and I freak.

I don't like watching feeder play, and I don't like being around scenes where the energy is really bad or it completely goes against my mood at the time and while I've never had the opportunity, I doubt I'd want to be around a serious amputation scene.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:11:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I honestly think amoung consenting adults there is nothing wrong.  However how on earth would you get consent from everyone at your wedding to please them?  Perhaps it was in the invitation,  Please indicate here if you would agree to the bride pleasing you???

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:12:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		what is sick is somebody getting a blowjob and it isn't me.

Really!!!!

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:16:12 AM   
pinkee


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Status: offline 		i would consider unmentionables (under 18 years old) off-limits.  As for any other play between consenting adults, i do not judge (though am s'times astonished).  As for me, yes, there are hard and soft limits, as stated on my profile.
 
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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:20:45 AM   
SwordMistress


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Status: offline 		For me underaged, scat play and anything in the sense of amputation or cutting deeper than into the skin is off limits. As for the rest... I am curious about some things, I am neutral about some things. I believe that as long as it is consensual and at least a little sane, it is people's own thing.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:27:24 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		Can't mention animals other than human animals or the thread is likely to get pulled.

The danger of this thread is in inviting everyone to come in and state that what others are consensually doing and enjoying is wrong somehow.  To each their own. 

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:29:09 AM   
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What I was thinking earlier today actually was that most people in the scene simply dismiss anything they hear that they consider "too extreme" as simply not actually going on.  They think you are just making it up for attention or trying to freak people out.  They just deny that it actually happens.

It ALL happens, and very happily.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:30:00 AM   
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Whenever I see these posts I always wait for the inevitable 'I don't agree with underage sex/sex with a minor' standard response.
 
But why on EARTH do people insist time and again to say that?
 
Why do people come here and even contemplate that paedophillia - and that is what we are talking about here - has ANYTHING to do with BDSM.
 
It is really statements like that which perpetuate the myth that such practises are BDSM related.  They are not.
 
As for the op - what others do is up to them.  Nothing is anymore sick, better, normal, abnormal, abhorant, critical *fill blank word here* than another.  Everything is subjective - and really, what concern is it of anyones who likes what or doesnt like it, except for the people involved?
 
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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:31:41 AM   
gypsylee


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quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji

As to the dog situation, I am just curious to know whether or not he had a safeword.



quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

what is sick is somebody getting a blowjob and it isn't me.



  and here i am having a guilt trip cos i can't seem to post anything serious.



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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:33:48 AM   
BrutalAntipathy


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Status: offline 		I find several things distasteful or aesthetically unpleasant. In no particular order, scat, beastiality, female supremacy, male slaves & subs, enemas, latex, and roleplaying that doesn't involve a table full of nerds. There are probably more, but that is all I could think of at the moment.
 
It is not my place to tell others not to do these things, or even to call them sick ( except maybe scat, which IMO is sick ), but I don't want any part in them or just don't care for them. The only thing I see as off limits is pedo, which I do not consider daddy dom/daughter slave play to be. That I consider roleplay, which doesn't fall within the same category.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:35:35 AM   
MsKatHouston


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Status: offline 		There are things I do not personally like and do not want to see.  But as long as it is done with consenting adults, I say go for it. 

Many things also depend on the context.  There are acts I find hot when in a private or fetish event but would find disturbing if done in other venues. 

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:37:30 AM   
ownedgirlie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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What I was thinking earlier today actually was that most people in the scene simply dismiss anything they hear that they consider "too extreme" as simply not actually going on.  They think you are just making it up for attention or trying to freak people out.  They just deny that it actually happens.

It ALL happens, and very happily.


I totally agree. 

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:43:39 AM   
TxBadMan


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Why do people come here and even contemplate that paedophillia - and that is what we are talking about here - has ANYTHING to do with BDSM.

Exactly. It is something that I do not even discuss, period. If another brings it up with me, stating it as a limit; I just shake my head and go on my merry way.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:44:37 AM   
charismagirrl


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Status: offline 		i think consent is this big thing, anything where ALL parties consent is fine in my book even if it isn't necessarily up my personal alley. There are some things that would make my skin crawl but then i would just keep my fingers crossed that Daddy never made me do those things. i'm also just grateful tht as a Master he has the same hard lines as i do. (Whew)

That being said, the whole thing with beastiality, the animal can't consent soooo even if it weren't illegal it's still inhumane and there is a party that's unable to consent.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:47:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		Outside of me and mine, it's irrelevant.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:47:41 AM   
RiotGirl


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Status: offline 		Am i the only person who would actually enjoy seeing "sick" things just for the pure educational and interesting twist of it?

like scat play.. i couldnt do it.. and i think its pross IMO - but if i was some where where it was happening, while i'd be grossed out, i'd be watching facinated.  And if i was with a really close friend, i'm one of those ppl that whispers in the ear a million questions.. "are they really gonna do that?" "oooo they did"  "how is he not barfing"  "wow, why are they doing that"  "whats that supposed to do"  "do you think they ever get used to the smell"  ect ect ect ect.  Course it would be like a "ewww - wow" sorta thing. 

maybe i'm just a curious person and i get fascinated easy.  It really can be amazing what human beings will do.  There are like no LIMITS to what people will do and well i for one dont mind being on the side lines watching them doing it - wondering in amazement and learning via osmosis. 

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:50:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: charismagirrl
That being said, the whole thing with beastiality, the animal can't consent soooo even if it weren't illegal it's still inhumane and there is a party that's unable to consent.

Unless you're someone who is a peta-type, we do things to animals without their consent ALL THE TIME.  I know we like to humanize our pets and make them into our babies, but I'm quite fine about doing things to animals, whether it's immunization, surgery, killing for food, teaching them tricks, making them walk on a leash...or other things.

The scene is such double standard when it comes to non humans.  The funny part is that as often as it gets discussed and as often as you hear people talk against it, this sort of play happens ALL the time.

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RE: What do you consider sick? - 10/6/2006 8:55:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Folks, please feel free to have this discussion but leave reference to TOS violating activities and illegal activities out of it or this thread will suffer the same end as the "hard limits" threads usually do.

Thank you.

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