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sissifytoserve -> Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/7/2006 11:09:43 AM)
Please listen to the Rense interview of Alex Jones on October 2, 2006. Discussions on the present course of America I listened to both segments twice. Hour 1: www.senderberl.com/rense_jones_100206.mp3 Hour 2: www.senderberl.com/rense_jones_100206_2.mp3

NorthernGent -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/7/2006 11:36:50 AM)
Well worth a listen. Who is Alex Jones?

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/7/2006 11:46:14 AM)
Here is wikipedias summary..but judge for YOURSELF. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_jones Alex's websites: www.infowars.com www.prisonplanet.com www.prisonplanet.tv www.jonesreport.com Jeff renses website www.rense.com

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/7/2006 11:49:24 AM)
Alex Jones on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=alex+jones&search=Search

UtopianRanger -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/7/2006 11:21:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve Please listen to the Rense interview of Alex Jones on October 2, 2006. Discussions on the present course of America I listened to both segments twice. Hour 1: www.senderberl.com/rense_jones_100206.mp3 Hour 2: www.senderberl.com/rense_jones_100206_2.mp3 Thank you for the links. I must admit that until now I had only heard short segments of Alex Jones on the ''Coast to Coast'' program ... but that discussion between the both of them is/was simply amazing. A few comments: For me, the John Lennon thing seems a little far fetched. But the most amazing part of the discussion was in the first part of the second hour, when they were talking about ''gravity guns'' - I've read information about this subject from a few other web sites....and if what they are saying is true, the Iranians ought to be very frightened if this type of technology is used on them. The Russians or Chinese won't even be able to help them. Also... the story about three million people marching in Belgium because they would not prosecute the pedophile, was also amazing - I must admit that I had never heard that story till now - R

stef -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/7/2006 11:58:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger Thank you for the links. I must admit that until now I had only heard short segments of Alex Jones on the ''Coast to Coast'' program ... but that discussion between the both of them is/was simply amazing. Amazing is one word for it. quote: But the most amazing part of the discussion was in the first part of the second hour, when they were talking about ''gravity guns'' - I've read information about this subject from a few other web sites....and if what they are saying is true, the Iranians ought to be very frightened if this type of technology is used on them. Somone should probably start inventing that technology and the robotic space planes so we'll have them to use in this scenario. quote: Also... the story about three million people marching in Belgium because they would not prosecute the pedophile, was also amazing - I must admit that I had never heard that story till now It's off by an order of magnitude off as where were "only" 300,000 people, but it was still pretty amazing. ~stef

NorthernGent -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 3:13:35 AM)
sissify, I quite liked his style. He may have some of the small details wrong but the meat of his argument is relevant. He has a similar style to George Galloway. It's a shame you can't get British radio over there (I know you can get BBC but I doubt you can get Talk Sport) as he has a show every Saturday and Sunday night on subjects ranging from imperialism to the environment. It's good to hear these views from Americans, because rightly or wrongly, the world has a view of America as completely self absorbed and in tune with your Government's foreign policy. Going back to the politics and limits thread, I think there are American posters on this board who are a credit to the US and their views are not the sort of views you want to close down if you are remotely interested in how the world views your country.

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 7:29:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef Somone should probably start inventing that technology and the robotic space planes so we'll have them to use in this scenario. It's "Amazing" to me that some people will believe anything they see on TV,but when it comes to alternative news sources if you even try to put forth information contrary...immediately you are labeeled a "Kook" or "tin foil hat" , "conspiracy theorist". I say to those people...you are part of the problem.

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 7:33:25 AM)
Actually Northern Gent..... George Galloway has been interviewed by Alex Jones at least twice and is in one of his documentary films. Some clips of Galloway.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhGWH93ZPJg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKIlLy-sHgk

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 7:49:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent It's good to hear these views from Americans, because rightly or wrongly, the world has a view of America as completely self absorbed and in tune with your Government's foreign policy. I sure as hell don't agree with it. I think the US is headed for a train wreck on its present course. The people who wrote the Billof rights aand the constitution certainly knew for ssure that governments can't be trussted. Now, unfortunately...people who disagree with the government are considered to be "with the terrorists"or"not a patriot". Being a patriot has NOTHING to do with government hugging.

NorthernGent -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 7:49:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NorthernGent sissify, I quite liked his style. He may have some of the small details wrong but the meat of his argument is relevant. He has a similar style to George Galloway. It's a shame you can't get British radio over there (I know you can get BBC but I doubt you can get Talk Sport) as he has a show every Saturday and Sunday night on subjects ranging from imperialism to the environment. It's good to hear these views from Americans, because rightly or wrongly, the world has a view of America as completely self absorbed and in tune with your Government's foreign policy. Going back to the politics and limits thread, I think there are American posters on this board who are a credit to the US and their views are not the sort of views you want to close down if you are remotely interested in how the world views your country. By the way, I'm not sure if this is clear but when I say "you" I don't mean you personally. I mean Americans in general. None of this "one" nonsense here on point of principle. Who would want to aspire to a nobility with about as much compassion as a hungry lion repeatedly prodded with a stick?

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 8:01:34 AM)
Its why the few control the many. People immediately fall in line for fear of being different from the rest of the flock. Its insane how many people think governments can do no wrong. History certainly proves otherwise. Whats frustrating is the fact that these same people are more concerned about "what did brad Pitt do last week?"...or "Pepsi is better than Coke"...or "American idol is on tonight..I don't care about that stuff". We are losing our country. I can see it every day...and its BY DESIGN.

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 8:06:36 AM)
Alex Jones getting Arrested by then TX. GOV. George Bush./state police for DARING to ask him a question. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpiDqjW-TxY

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 8:47:48 AM)
NorthernGent..... Here is a really intelligent guy from Belfast, Irelandyou may be interested in hearing his take on things. Michael Tsarion http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8545585184878490822&q=tsarion

stef -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 9:39:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve It's "Amazing" to me that some people will believe anything they see on TV,but when it comes to alternative news sources if you even try to put forth information contrary...immediately you are labeeled a "Kook" or "tin foil hat" , "conspiracy theorist". Except I didn't label them as either of those things. I'm not going to jump on *any* bandwagon without some kind of proof just because I heard a couple of guys talking about it on some webcast. I don't leap to the 'trust' stage before 'verifying' when it comes to such things these days. Sue me. Aside from knowing that I will not blindly follow the offerings of these individuals as if I were just a sheep of another color, you have no idea what I believe. That tactic didn't work the last time we went through this and it's not going to work this time. While there is the possibility that such technology exists, I'd like to see some proof aside from the word of people who are making their living coming up with such claims and stirring people into an unjustified frenzy to support their livelihoods. You know, like one of the thousands of professional astronomers or millions of amateur astronomers producing some verifiable documentation that they've seen and photographed such objects. Have they? I'd truly be interested in seeing it if such has been produced. That is, if the MIB didn't get to all of them already. quote: I say to those people...you are part of the problem. Yes, people who don't mindlessly succumb to such fantastic claims are part of the not gullible enough to believe everything they hear problem, and I can live with that. ~stef

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 9:50:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef Except I didn't label them as either of those things. No...but YOU called ME that. Sticks and stones. quote: While there is the possibility that such technology exists, I'd like to see some proof aside from the word of people who are making their living coming up with such claims and stirring people into an unjustified frenzy to support their livelihoods. You know, like one of the thousands of professional astronomers or millions of amateur astronomers producing some verifiable documentation that they've seen and photographed such objects. Have they? I'd truly be interested in seeing it if such has been produced. That is, if the MIB didn't get to all of them already. More sticks and stones. Yeah...and in the 1960s they said that the SR-71 didn't exist either. quote: Yes, people who don't mindlessly succumb to such fantastic claims are part of the not gullible enough to believe everything they hear problem, and I can live with that. ~stef I'll bet you can.

stef -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 10:19:12 AM)
quote: quote: ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve Except I didn't label them as either of those things. No...but YOU called ME that. We're not talking about you, we're talking about Rense and Jones' webcast and the claims they were making in that webcast. They are the ones who are trying "to put forth information contrary", you're just their parrot. quote: quote: While there is the possibility that such technology exists, I'd like to see some proof aside from the word of people who are making their living coming up with such claims and stirring people into an unjustified frenzy to support their livelihoods. You know, like one of the thousands of professional astronomers or millions of amateur astronomers producing some verifiable documentation that they've seen and photographed such objects. Have they? I'd truly be interested in seeing it if such has been produced. That is, if the MIB didn't get to all of them already. More sticks and stones. Yeah...and in the 1960s they said that the SR-71 didn't exist either. Well, I can't argue with "proof" that solid. By that brilliant display of logic, everything a person can imagine is proven to exist the moment someone says it doesn't. It's a mind-boggling theory, to say the least. In the 60's, there wasn't a medium in place for the instantaneous transmition of information. In the 60's, the technological ability to scan every inch of near-space for such objects was out of reach of nearly the entire civilized world. Things have changed a lot in half a century. You can't just throw things up into space without people seeing and knowing about it these days. Keeping all of that in mind, I'll ask one more time. Is there any REAL proof? ~stef

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 10:24:41 AM)
Depends on what YOU consider "real" proof I suppose. Are you saying there ISN'T highly classified (not revealed to the public) military or intelligence gathering devices weapns, and/or aircraft circling the planet right now? I would say that someone who was formerly in the CIA and accidentally revealed this type of technology in an argument stands a good chance of being accurate. Would you like to attack me for anything else?

stef -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 12:27:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve Depends on what YOU consider "real" proof I suppose. Something other than the suppositions of people who make their living by agitating people would be a fantastic start. quote: Are you saying there ISN'T highly classified (not revealed to the public) military or intelligence gathering devices weapns, and/or aircraft circling the planet right now? I don't believe I said anything of the sort. What I said was, I would like to see proof of these supposed space planes before I'm willing to believe THEY are circling the planet right now. It appears to be proof that no one can provide. There's many questions by members of the HE physics community as to whether such objects would even survive re-entry and maintain tracking/communication control through the plasma sheath that would surround an object re-entering the atmosphere at that velocity. In addition, the kinetic energy produced by a projectile hitting a mass at that speed would redirect most of the KE back into the projectile, destroying it before it was transferred to the target. Can you provide any information that would contradict the above concerns? quote: I would say that someone who was formerly in the CIA and accidentally revealed this type of technology in an argument stands a good chance of being accurate. Why? CIA employees are suddenly good sources of classified information if they say something you want to hear? That doesn't set off warning bells for you? Besides, if some CIA drone actually did let slip highly classified information to Charlie Sheen of all people in a green room, that man would be the discionary definition of fucked and Alex and Charlie surely would have perished in "accidents" by now. Isn't that how our current administration handles things? quote: Would you like to attack me for anything else? Asking you for proof is hardly attacking you. Drop the pathetic victim crap. ~stef

sissifytoserve -> RE: Alex jones/jeff rense interview (10/8/2006 12:40:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef Something other than the suppositions of people who make their living by agitating people would be a fantastic start. "Agitators"...as YOU call them are the ONLY people who ever changed things for the better in this country. If you want to go around and believe what the mainstream media pukes out on the TV every night and what they call "news" go for it. I know that they're lying.You have a MUCH better chance of learning the TRUTH through the internet, because you can get not only a 2nd opinion. You can get a 22nd opinion. So..AGAIN..depends on what YOU call the truth. quote: Asking you for proof is hardly attacking you. Drop the pathetic victim crap. ~stef Well...YOU were the one calling me the names after all, instead of actually engaging in critical thinking and constructive criticism.

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