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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 8:13:48 AM   
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Over taste and smell there can be no just cause for disagreement.   Women care
about such things as the color of your eyes, and how well your nails are manicured.
Some women like black men. Some like men with big dicks, some like men with
big tongues, some like men with big hearts.   Hairy, smooth, tall, short, fat, skinny,
muscled, voluptruous, athletic.  We all have our tastes, and we each have a right
to our tastes.  Women have their criteria, men have theirs.  Men care more
about honey, women care more about money, status and dominance.   And then
there are the exceptions to the rule.  You want a dominant man, a submisive
man, a blue collar worker, a white collar worker, an Einstein, a Tyson, a
Gandhi, a Stalin. 
 
Evolution programmed men to be more interested young, healthy
looking specimens, and women to be more interested in maturity,
dominance, status, and wealth.   The gene pool, of course, includes
men and women with every combination and permutation of likes
and dislikes.
 
I myself like younger women with an athletic build, a tomboyish attitude,
a genius IQ, bi-polar tendencies in need of lots of love and attention.
I am not bothered by 20-30 pounds overweight.
 
I recall some woman writing Ann Landers saying after 20 years of looking 
and four failed marriages, she found the ideal mate.  He had great sense of
humor, he was super intelligent, a great lover,  he was young, dashing,
and athletic.  He was an accomplished musician and artist, and a
self-made millionarire.  But there was just one thing, he always used to
brag at dinner parties that he was a self-made millionaire, and felt she
could not put up with such a character flaw.  I wondered how perfect
she must be to so judge him.
 
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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 8:24:08 AM   
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Mist,

I nominate your last post as the best ever in ANY weight thread!

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 8:28:31 AM   
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Mist,

I nominate your last post as the best ever in ANY weight thread!




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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 8:52:40 AM   
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oooooooooooo crappy

you so sexy

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:02:49 AM   
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I am 5'11" and about 210lbs. It is not in the right places. Somebody can weigh that at my height and be cut, massive arms and chest and almost no flab at all (and they're working on that last ½" ), but that's not me.

I consider myself chubby, possibly fat in some people's eyes, but certainly not obese. When I see an obese person, for right or wrong I think to myself 'if I were that big I wouldn't eat for a month'. Used to be fat, between dietary changes and some fasting in the past I am down to chubby. It feels good. I don't want to go back to being fat, and that is a struggle as one ages. My job is alot more sedentary than in the past, and of course now I am a bit of an internet junkie, so the fight will not be easy. But in my mind I must maintain, I feel better with the weight off, and I am determined to keep it that way.

Let's say you are the Woman for me. There is more to life than physique, so let's say you are fat, but I can deal with it. Now I would expect someone I hook up with to have similar values and ideals, so when I walk into the room, are you eating a taco or chicken salad, or a spongecake ? Are you making a spicy stirfry, or a big pot of spaghetti ?

Obesity, or at least overweightness, or chubbiness, is an epidemic. Skinny people seem to stick together, so what now ? Expect anyone you meet to have a few extra pounds. Especially into the forties. This is when alot of the people still gainfully employed have moved into more sedentary jobs, like foreman, manager etc., and their taste does not always adjust.

Normally I don't eat alot, but if I work hard, like moving or doing house repairs I pig out. There are days when, at work I do no physical labor at all, on those days I do not pig out, I eat very little.

I haven't had potato chip in about 10 years, sugar in 15, and I only eat pasta about once a month now. I am TRYING to stay healthy, so if you, chubby Woman are for me, you are doing the same. You are not eating fast food with supersize fries. Get the point ? If you are for me, we will do our own cooking. That includes on the stove of course.

Chubby girls can be fun too, even fat girls, but when it comes to obese it gets in the way. How does one define these conditions ? No, not by medical science silly, it is simple.

Standing up, wearing a pair of jeans:

If you can slide them up and down but your hips keep them from falling down you are svelte, and fuck you.

If you got about an inch or so protrusion above the beltline, you might be chubby.

When that protrusion gets to the point where it hangs below the beltline on the outside, you might be fat.

When you give up and buy bigger pants to go OVER that gut, you are probably obese.

See ?, we don't even need a scale. Human nature being what it is, I'll be honest, chubby or fat, OK, but obese, no. Reason ? I have two very valid reasons, and remember these are my reasons and OP, YOU asked.

For one, obesity wrecks the body. I don't want to have to have a defiblilator on hand. My intention is to find a way to drive you wild, to heights of ecstacy heretofore unexperienced. That's what keeps you around, so if I want you around I figure that comes with the teritory. You will need a strong cardiovascular system. I want you to the point of passing out, like in the porn movies, but for real, and maybe better. I have tools for this purpose.

For two, obesity, to me, shows a weakness. This is a weakness I would rather not see in a partner. That is my personal preference, and I hope I get this across without someone construing an insult out of it. We all have weaknesses, but just how weak are we ? I took charge of my health years ago and actually cured some conditions that they say are permanent. I never hit obesity, but I was fat, and my knees were so bad I could not walk down a flight of steps. I changed.

I am quite careful about what I eat now, and in a mate I would expect to see a similar resolve, desire, goal. You don't need to lose weight, this is how you came out of the box, that is fine, if it weren't you wouldn't be here. Just don't gain weight. Excess weight is bad.

Health is an important thing to me, but lately I can't pay 100% attention to it, but I'll tell you this, I don't eat junk food, anything that comes through a window, nor any cake, candy or even ice cream. This has been so for a decade or so.

And since this IS an adult website I'll mention this, I get a hardon like a 20 year old. I mean it gets HARD. Not the biggest thing in the world but big enough, and hard as a rock.

I haven't seen a doctor of any kind in ten years, still got all my teeth and hair, not gray. I just wish I could see. My eyesight is terrible, I have two pairs of glasses, one for distance and the other for closer, like on the computer, and then at work I have to take them off to do close work. It sucks. But I could be in alot worse shape, and at one time was.

I would hope someone would want to be around me enough to try to be healthy and live long. Wouldn't you ? To be with me and be self destructive means that you are not fulfilled enough to want to live. That is unacceptable.

T

PS Same thing goes for other things, like addiction to hard drugs, binge/purge, everything like that. It is a compulsion, do whatever you want, but stay in control. In that way you earn and maintain my respect, and likewise. Realistically, I could probably help someone out of one compulsion, but if there are others or if it is very strong, one might be beyond help. Sad but true.

T

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:11:46 AM   
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Again, very true. I know women who are "chubby", but incredibly sexy too. Not only are they fuckable, but I'd be proud to be seen with one on my arm. Of course, none of this has anything to do with whether she is smart (gotta be), or funny (gotta be), or trustworthy (gotta be).

You're talking about me again lol - people will talk ya know


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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:13:22 AM   
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You look great, Katy.


Thank you.  But I know you are  just bribing me so I will sit on your lap and you can tell about football defenses.





Hmmmmmm, blitzing lol......no, I meant it.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:14:44 AM   
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There's a woman I work with who is the epitome of disproportionate; egg-shaped head, huge upper torso, flat ass, scrawny legs. It does not help that she is the most annoying fucking person I've ever met.



*bursts into fits of hysterical laughter* 
 
minus the egg-shaped head, you very well may be working with SpongeBob Squarepants... 
 
 



LOL drh.... *smiles widely and makes the sign of the gump*....... she is Spongebob's long lost cousin!

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:23:55 AM   
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why are straight men so picky about a ladies weight and looks?  ... why do men brush off fat ladies? ...


Why? Pretty simple. It's all about physical attraction. The sight of a woman either can make your dick hard or cannot make your dick hard.

Romantic relationships are difficult enough as it is. Would you compound that difficulty by trying to develop a relationship with a woman who doesn't fire-up your libido just by the sight of her? 

I just can't believe you created still another fat thread. I'll look in again a few hundred messages from now...  


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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:30:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: missturbation

Again, very true. I know women who are "chubby", but incredibly sexy too. Not only are they fuckable, but I'd be proud to be seen with one on my arm. Of course, none of this has anything to do with whether she is smart (gotta be), or funny (gotta be), or trustworthy (gotta be).

You're talking about me again lol - people will talk ya know


Oh, let them talk, and we'll smile and nod


I'm smiling and nodding - i wanna reason to though lol

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:36:28 AM   
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Women, can be coerced by a guy's personality. Most guys won't even talk to a chick that doesn't make their dick tingle.
And as for bald guys, shave your head! Please! You can't make me believe that women aren't into that. I'll use Sting as an example, or shall we talk about Sean Connory? Seriously, embracing the baldness (which is a high maintenance do) is the only way to go. The hair plugs and comb overs are just painful to see.
Personally, being into men and women, what I find hottest is someone with confidence. Obviously some attention to their look is important, but goofy is a look.
Obviously, obese doesn't work, and super skinny doesn't work for me. I like the range in the middle. I like a little waist to grab onto. And as far as dick size...if you can make it work, it doesn't matter the size. Again, the extremes (way big, way small) suck, but I don't really need a dick to have an orgasm, it's just something to hold onto. What did my friend say? Ah yes...."It's not the size of the weapon, it's the method of atttack."

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:36:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhipTheHip


Evolution programmed men to be more interested young, healthy
looking specimens, and women to be more interested in maturity,
dominance, status, and wealth.   The gene pool, of course, includes
men and women with every combination and permutation of likes
and dislikes.
 


We all seek in another what we lack in ourselves. 

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:40:01 AM   
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I am sure my little bitty post will get lost in the pages of people arguing back and forth about fat being not attractive, and fat being attractive.
 
It all comes down to the fact, that everyone has a preference of what they look for.  I am overweight, but personally, I don't find it attractive in someone else(stocky, yes, obese, no).  I love myself, and take good care of myself, grooming, clothes, all of that.  If I am not for you, that's perfectly fine with me.

I don't judge if someone doesn't find me attractive, I am just not their type.  I am sure what turns me on, may not someone else and vice versa.
 
I don't really find Brad Pitt all that attractive, he just isn't my type.  I am attracted to looks, yes, but also intelligence, depth, and someone literate.  If you don't have those qualities, I don't see myself waking up to you everyday.  Not saying they wouldn't be a good lay though, had a couple of those.
 
I think the only two things that really frustrate me, are the people who think because I am overweight, I can't be picky about who I am with.  I should just be happy I guess that anyone would want me.  Then there are those that are overweight, who judge others on looks, yet will bite the head off of anyone that says they aren't attracted to them for that reason alone.
 
I have no problem with you all having your preferences, just make sure you leave me to mine.
 
We like what we like, and we shouldn't be judged for that, by anyone.
 
Masters Akasha
 
 

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:41:56 AM   
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I've never been with an overweight woman. It's just never happened and I can't say there is anything conscious about it, it's just a matter of who has attracted me. I don't consciously select, its what lights my fire. I'm not a big bloke, 5'8" and 165lbs (pretty much all in the right places), a big woman would probably snap me. However, thinking about it, the last women I've had a relationship with have been 5'1", 5'2" and 5'2", all weighing around 105-15lbs which allows me to throw them around which is nice. If I can get what I want, why go for something I don't want? And since I'm not looking for a serious relationship I don't mind compromising on personality.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:42:54 AM   
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I honestly don't understand why people get so offended by discussions of weight. 
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The discussions turn ugly when people start to suggest that those who are overweight should have lower self-esteem and see themselves as less in society.  There is often a feeling of "How dare you enjoy life and be happy with yourself when you are fat!". 

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 9:57:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I honestly don't understand why people get so offended by discussions of weight. 
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The discussions turn ugly when people start to suggest that those who are overweight should have lower self-esteem and see themselves as less in society.  There is often a feeling of "How dare you enjoy life and be happy with yourself when you are fat!". 

Be well,
Julie


That's really not been my observation. I have seen most discussions about weight turn ugly the moment someone states they have any sort of preference in that department. What I can't understand is why anyone would feel so threatened or attacked by someone simply stating their own personal preference. I've certainly never had the experience of ever hearing anyone say "How dare you enjoy life and be happy with yourself when you are fat!" but I have often seen people who seem to respond from the perspective that they perceived that was the underlying message. I would have to say that reflects on something within the perceiver.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 11:58:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: LadyJulieAnn

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I honestly don't understand why people get so offended by discussions of weight. 
*snip*



The discussions turn ugly when people start to suggest that those who are overweight should have lower self-esteem and see themselves as less in society.  There is often a feeling of "How dare you enjoy life and be happy with yourself when you are fat!". 

Be well,
Julie


That's really not been my observation. I have seen most discussions about weight turn ugly the moment someone states they have any sort of preference in that department. What I can't understand is why anyone would feel so threatened or attacked by someone simply stating their own personal preference. I've certainly never had the experience of ever hearing anyone say "How dare you enjoy life and be happy with yourself when you are fat!" but I have often seen people who seem to respond from the perspective that they perceived that was the underlying message. I would have to say that reflects on something within the perceiver.


I agree that most of those dicussions get way out of hand and that people tend to overreact in an emotional way.  However, I can provide examples of statements that really do present the attitude I stated in my previous posting.  When I see those sorts of comments, that's when I tend to respond.  As for personal preferences, I'm all for them, and have pretty specific ones myself.

Be well,
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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 12:13:41 PM   
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why are straight men so picky about a ladies weight and looks?  my brother was out here a week- he could have had several woman. but n000000000. meanwhile at the bar, it was all men there. all suasage.

woman avoid these vulcherish places.

why is it so hard for straight folks to date?

i introduced my bro to Jenn- she can cook, sew, has her own income, her kid is raised, he wasnt into her at all.

meanwhile HE IS AGING TOO.

why do men brush off fat ladies?  i dont mean obese, i mean chubby.


Some men probably do, others don't. We all have our limits and preferences but personally there is nothing I find unattractive about chubby women. There is no doubt that the West values slim women but there will be men that simply prefer slim women because they are wired that way and can't really explain it. An example of what I'm saying, I have always liked brunettes with dark eyes. I can't tell you why, I have no idea. I'm just wired that way. Size would only be an issue for me if she was big or very thin. 

To cut a long story short, when push comes to shove most of us have more strings to our bow than to turn away women because they don't fit society's norms.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 12:22:53 PM   
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Its simple. if a girl can cook & sew, has her own income & her kid is raised, and I do not find her sexually attractive, then she is roommate or best buddy material, but not for a romantic relationship. Just as i wouldn't expect a woman who is into tall black men to get involved with me (or at least not once she sobered up).

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 12:42:47 PM   
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Its simple. if a girl can cook & sew, has her own income & her kid is raised, and I do not find her sexually attractive, then she is roommate or best buddy material, but not for a romantic relationship. Just as i wouldn't expect a woman who is into tall black men to get involved with me (or at least not once she sobered up).


To throw another point into the debate, we choose our mates based on primal instinct. Women look for men who they think will provide - whether it be because he's tall, intelligent, good looking, strong - all of these characteristics are evolutionary indicators that such men will go far in life and thus serve the basic need to provide for the woman and her children.


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