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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 1:12:59 PM   
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There's a woman I work with who is the epitome of disproportionate; egg-shaped head, huge upper torso, flat ass, scrawny legs. It does not help that she is the most annoying fucking person I've ever met.



*bursts into fits of hysterical laughter* 
 
minus the egg-shaped head, you very well may be working with SpongeBob Squarepants... 
 
 



LOL drh.... *smiles widely and makes the sign of the gump*....... she is Spongebob's long lost cousin!


*returns the sign of the gump, with serious visage*

...  then bursts into fits of laughter all over again... 

I've missed you, my dear Level, hope you are well...  ~ red

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 1:15:25 PM   
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i wouldn't expect a woman who is into tall black men to get involved with me (or at least not once she sobered up).


*too funny* 

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 1:32:56 PM   
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all of these characteristics are evolutionary indicators that such men will go far in life and thus serve the basic need to provide for the woman and her children.



I remember when my wife worked in the city and her colleagues who had concentrated on their careers were approaching forty and busily looking round for a mate to have children with and provide to standard they had become accustomed to (which was high), couldn't find anyone. One of her male colleagues who was elligible and had the income said to me over a company lunch, if I was going to invest as much money as his female colleagues expect in a relationship, he would go for one fifteen years younger and with lower expectations. The mating game is cruel and while people may talk about it as though it is coated with sugar, there is little sentiment in it.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 1:54:14 PM   
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all of these characteristics are evolutionary indicators that such men will go far in life and thus serve the basic need to provide for the woman and her children.



I remember when my wife worked in the city and her colleagues who had concentrated on their careers were approaching forty and busily looking round for a mate to have children with and provide to standard they had become accustomed to (which was high), couldn't find anyone. One of her male colleagues who was elligible and had the income said to me over a company lunch, if I was going to invest as much money as his female colleagues expect in a relationship, he would go for one fifteen years younger and with lower expectations. The mating game is cruel and while people may talk about it as though it is coated with sugar, there is little sentiment in it.


I'm not saying that women go hunting with the intention of finding a man with money. There is far more to it than that. I'm saying that deep down in our subconscious we have primal needs that influence our choices without us even knowing it. Personally, I think the mating game can be coated in sugar (I've had some good times along the way and every woman who I've spent time with has known she's barking up the wrong tree if she's looking for a sugar daddy so I've never experienced a "cruel game"). My point is that we're not always aware of what is really driving our attraction to a mate i.e. the superficial element is the product of the subconscious. If a woman prefers tall men, intelligent men, strong men, successful men, good looking men it all comes back to the same thing - in the year dot these were the men who would be more likely to provide and thus a better bet to give a woman what she needs. In the modern age, this is still relevant.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 1:57:43 PM   
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I've missed you, my dear Level, hope you are well...  ~ red


Same here, good lady, and yes, I'm fine .... "Frank" says hello , he's doing well, too.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 2:04:28 PM   
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To throw another point into the debate, we choose our mates based on primal instinct. Women look for men who they think will provide - whether it be because he's tall, intelligent, good looking, strong - all of these characteristics are evolutionary indicators that such men will go far in life and thus serve the basic need to provide for the woman and her children.


Hmmmm....have you ever taken a good look at Bill Gates? I'd have to think he's probably an excellent provider and quite likely intelligent but.....I don't think I would attach any of those other adjectives to him.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 2:42:10 PM   
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To throw another point into the debate, we choose our mates based on primal instinct. Women look for men who they think will provide - whether it be because he's tall, intelligent, good looking, strong - all of these characteristics are evolutionary indicators that such men will go far in life and thus serve the basic need to provide for the woman and her children.


Hmmmm....have you ever taken a good look at Bill Gates?

I'd be lying if I said I've given him a close inspection but it's a point well made.
 
I'd have to think he's probably an excellent provider and quite likely intelligent but.....I don't think I would attach any of those other adjectives to him.
 
For clarity, I meant each of these characteristics serve the providing need so one of them (not necessarily all of them simultaneously) can be the basis for attraction e.g. Bill Gates and his intelligence and social status.
 
Think of politicians who you find repulsive (if you do that is). There are other women who are turned on by their social status - i.e. the attraction is that they hold the power to change the country which is an aphrodisiac for some. Where I work, I give a lot of presentations and from speaking with women who I've been out with from work they find men who can stand in front of an audience and speak articulately a turn on - it all leads back to the perception that a man who can hold his own in a social situation or one who is tall or is intelligent or is good looking is the man who will best provide in the eyes of a woman.
 
What do you think? The men you've been out with - do they share any characteristics?
 
 



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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 2:51:22 PM   
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What do you think? The men you've been out with - do they share any characteristics?


Yup, they sure do...they have all been ruggedly good looking, blue collar, hard working guys who have a strong affinity for living outside the box.

I wasn't trying to discount your theory at all, actually I believe it is quite credible. There was even a study that was released just last week that women put more effort into their appearance and even dress more provactively when they are ovulating.....and the study went on to further say that men were shown a group of women who they were asked to rank in the attractiveness department and the men chose the women who were indeed fertile at the time as the "more" attractive.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:06:13 PM   
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Hmmmm....have you ever taken a good look at Bill Gates? I'd have to think he's probably an excellent provider and quite likely intelligent but.....I don't think I would attach any of those other adjectives to him.


I bet Bill Gates would have no problem getting young beautiful women, rich men rarely do, no matter what they look like. If we accept that one of the primal motives women have in looking for a man is for a man capable of providing, then rich men have what they want. We live in a society were muscular bodies don't count for a lot, we don't hunt mamoths anymore but hunt the dollar and that takes wit, resourcefulness and brains. Great if you've got all that and a great body but a great body is icing on the cake. Go to any financial centre, London, Paris, New York and you will see pretty average looking older men in restuarants with young pretty women.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:18:07 PM   
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why are straight men so picky about a ladies weight and looks?  my brother was out here a week- he could have had several woman. but n000000000. meanwhile at the bar, it was all men there. all suasage.

woman avoid these vulcherish places.

why is it so hard for straight folks to date?

i introduced my bro to Jenn- she can cook, sew, has her own income, her kid is raised, he wasnt into her at all.

meanwhile HE IS AGING TOO.

why do men brush off fat ladies?  i dont mean obese, i mean chubby.


because most men are shallow (See the movie Shallow Hal for examples) and can't see beyond the person's looks. alot fail to realize that there's a person there...hidden by their close-mindedness and their outter shell.

just remember guys, there's feelings, emotions and intelligence in all beings, regardless of how much they weigh.


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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:22:01 PM   
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just remember guys, there's feelings, emotions and intelligence in all beings, regardless of how much they weigh.


You know what michael....I don't know what you've done but I think you should keep it up. Ever since you put up that new pic of yourself (which is a really nice pic btw), something about you has changed. You have been much more positive about things. It's been really very nice to see.

edited to add that what I quoted....was a wonderful observation!

< Message edited by mistoferin -- 10/14/2006 3:23:01 PM >

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:23:51 PM   
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Hmmmm....have you ever taken a good look at Bill Gates? I'd have to think he's probably an excellent provider and quite likely intelligent but.....I don't think I would attach any of those other adjectives to him.


If Bill Gates was a struggling programmer making an average salary, I'd definitely date him.  It's the smarts and the mindset that I find attractive.  Nerdy, geeky men are hot, and the brain is the single largest sex organ.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:29:02 PM   
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I am a fucking COMEDIAN!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:29:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		In my opinion, it's not how thin or fat a person is cause too thin is out there as well as fat.  What I've noticed turn heads is ~ Fit ~.  A fit body looks good in or out of anything no matter the age.  Combign fit with a personality and watch the line form.............  Youth is only a shell that's not taken the beating of time yet.

~sigh, and each year fit gets harder and harder

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:44:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		it perplexes me how both sexes moan how they want to find someone. yet- in this same geographic area- the availble pool to pick from is on a 1-10, less then a 7. if one is truly wanting a significant other- and they set the bar too high- it sorta makes them asexual=-or de facto socializational castrationed.

so- by setting the bar too high- where the goal can never be realized- is  ---- *fill in the blank*

[the gay world is even more messed up.... ]

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:47:58 PM   
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it perplexes me how both sexes moan how they want to find someone. yet- in this same geographic area- the availble pool to pick from is on a 1-10, less then a 7. if one is truly wanting a significant other- and they set the bar too high- it sorta makes them asexual=-or de facto socializational castrationed.

so- by setting the bar too high- where the goal can never be realized- is  ---- *fill in the blank*

[the gay world is even more messed up.... ]


Well when we're looking for a life partner we all set the bar at a height that is comfortable to ourselves....because forever is an awfully long time to live with someone who falls short.

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 3:55:05 PM   
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But life is like that, go bald as a man and you are fucked as far as most (which of course means one woman will post saying SHE loves bald men, but one woman doesn't make a trend) or if  you have a tiny cock or are short or have a high voice.


In polls women have said consistently the same thing about bald men

25% love bald men and have a thang for them... and I have to say there are some men that are very hot that are hot because they are bald

50% do not care one way or another, they are looking at the total picture and not the hairline (I fall into this camp)

25% would not touch a bald man with a 10 foot pole

Personally speaking I prefer men that are extremely active and agile more than I care about the amount of hair on a man's head.. in fact there is something totally sexy about a fresh buzz cut and rubbing my hands over that short crisp hair....mmmmmm

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 4:27:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		First of all, I find it interesting that most of the replies seem to be from women.

Second of all,  If any person rejects someone based only on looks,  they are not worth the time of effort.
My wife is a bbw and was when we met.  Prior to meeting her,  I had resigned myself to being a bachelor for the rest of my life.

A few months later,  we met and I fell deeply and madly in love with her again
Eight years later,  every morning that I wake up and see her sleeping next to me,  I fall in love all over again.  I am one lucky man to have finaly met the love of my life

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 5:08:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Simply put, we like what we like, want what we want, need what we need.  That being said, it is often a matter of cultural conditioning.  There are still societies in Africa where very large women are considered the most desirable (probably because they have enough sheep or cattle to afford a nice lifestyle) but in ancient times, a woman whose body showed she'd had children was very desirable because it proved she was fertile (survival of the clan and all).  Today, people do indulge in looking for the "fantasy mate" because popular culture deifies one type or another (yes, men are generally far more guilty of this than women).  But to the original post, the line "she cooks, she sews, she has her own income" would not be attractive to me.  I can cook, sew, use a vacuum, toilet brush and other small but potentially testosterone-depleting household implements.  If that's all she had to offer, she would be redundant.  OTOH, if you'd said, "She's bright, smart, funny, and has a nice lingerie collection" (well, that part's optional -- I'll buy her one) -- ah, now THAT would get my attention.  Yes, if she nearly as much as I do and is 5" shorter, I'll admit I'd probably consider her friend material.  Just as I would if she was too skinny.  Just as a lot of women I've known have  considered me as a friend, not as a potential lover.  That's fine...I enjoy their company as friends.  Looks do count.  And if I "set the bar too high," that's okay.  I'd rather be alone than in a relationship that I didn't truly enjoy (relish, need).    Personally, I think size 10-12 is not "big" (Marilyn Monroe was a size 14).  It's just about right.  [As a complete aside, "Missturbation," you are definitely hot.  (And I don't even like football.)]

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RE: Q to straight men - 10/14/2006 7:36:30 PM   
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I've missed you, my dear Level, hope you are well...  ~ red


Same here, good lady, and yes, I'm fine .... "Frank" says hello , he's doing well, too.


I'm glad you are well.  "Herman" says 'hi' back...  and he's doing smashingly, thank you. 

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