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aging slaves - 1/27/2005 9:43:08 AM

seasonedslave

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greetings to All *smile* i have been discussing the lifestyle regarding aging slaves with a friend and beg Your opinion.

no one can stop father time from walking on O/our bodies. the lines on the face, the sag in once firm breasts and ass, the softening of muscle tissue, the thinning of the skin that would eventually crack under the lightest whiplash, the aching in joints, etc. at some point, a slave will lose his/her usefulness and value. where do they go? what happens to them? as a slave, not having a Master to adore and care for is agony. what hope do they have when they can no longer perform the simplest tasks, such as kneeling in worship to One?

i beg Your opinions on this topic. *nods*

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RE: aging slaves - 1/27/2005 10:03:53 AM

match2u

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just simple - the Master get elder too - or do i see it wrong?

not really sure if the Master wanna beat His sub/ slave up while glad He is able to walk - smile -

as long as i know - there exist relations, slave is to old, to weak, problems with knees to climb in the cage.

so it is.... the dynamic of M/s is still there

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RE: aging slaves - 1/27/2005 10:34:05 AM

Atavist

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It depends on what your Master seeks in a slave. Age has nothing to do with attraction for many (including me).

"Mature" women are attractive to me, assuming they are fit and take care of themselves. Firstly they have insight into who they are and what they want. They have a clearer understanding of the places that give them contentment. Emotional maturity, self knowledge.

Physically, the body of a mature woman is (at least in my experience), softer which I find appealing and very sexy. With experience, she understands her body and knows what arouses her, and her Master.

This leaves aside the entire concept of love and emotional commitment (imagine that).

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RE: aging slaves - 1/27/2005 10:39:12 AM

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At 58 for me and 62 for Master and 36 years of marriage, things are still getting better as we continue to discover ourselves. A few joint problems limit some activites but that's about it. Not sure what the next 30 years will bring.

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RE: aging slaves - 1/27/2005 12:11:12 PM

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Hello Seasonedslave,
I agree with Petra above, that just as slaves age, so too do masters; I would guess it becomes more difficult if one is accustomed to performing only a few activities, but modifications/creativity will be required as one ages and can no longer do certain things...

I'm touched by your post because it is fairly easy not to care when one is relatively young/healthy, and overlook potential future problems; I have thought about it, and my confession is that this (aging) is one of the few good reasons to attach self to someone on a long-term/permanent basis; otherwise, there's little point in getting to know/deal with other folks' baggage is there?
This reply is a little cynical (especially coming from a lady who believes the whole world should come together and love one another), but it's honest when I think of why I should put effort into dating/connecting. M

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RE: aging slaves - 1/27/2005 12:14:49 PM

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I would hope that when my girl is too decrepit to serve physically, she would take pride in helping a new girl learn the mysteries of how to serve me properly and remain in my service providing intellectual companionship. I personally value much more than the physical acts of serving so I don't truly see my girl losing her usefulness to me as long as she still has her mind.
Timothy

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ORIGINAL: seasonedslave

greetings to All *smile* i have been discussing the lifestyle regarding aging slaves with a friend and beg Your opinion.

no one can stop father time from walking on O/our bodies. the lines on the face, the sag in once firm breasts and ass, the softening of muscle tissue, the thinning of the skin that would eventually crack under the lightest whiplash, the aching in joints, etc. at some point, a slave will lose his/her usefulness and value. where do they go? what happens to them? as a slave, not having a Master to adore and care for is agony. what hope do they have when they can no longer perform the simplest tasks, such as kneeling in worship to One?

i beg Your opinions on this topic. *nods*

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RE: aging slaves - 1/27/2005 8:51:39 PM

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We all get older.....both Dominants and sub/slaves. The important thing is to not linger on what you can't do....but what you still can do.

My husband died last year. My service to him was reduced to getting him drinks, driving him to the doctor, preparing his medications. He was a very depressed person the last few years. He would not enjoy the life he had bacause it wasn't the same as the life he'd had before. He missed out on so many joys, so many good times.

I am presently getting to know a Dom. He is my age and has health problems which are similar to those my husband faced. Yet, his attitude is completely different. He is optimistic. He knows there are some things he can't do anymore, but realizes that there are so many things he CAN do. His attitude is so refreshing.

At first, i hesitated getting to know this Dom better. I wasn't sure i could face someone with those medical problems again. Yet, his wonderful outlook on life draws me closer to him the more we chat. We will meet later this year to see if what we feel for each other online can become real life.

He has his limitations and knows i have my own. He does not consider that his value has gone down, nor has my age made my value lesser. Sometimes i think about the future. I don't see me hanging up my cuffs someday. It's just that the dynamics might have to adjust a bit as we get older. Adjusting isn't bad. It's just something we do.

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RE: aging slaves - 1/28/2005 3:44:22 AM

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thank Y/you all so much for Y/your opinions. *smiles*

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RE: aging slaves - 1/28/2005 4:15:09 AM

Quivver

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Ah, an issue so close to my heart. As I approach that half century mark and see those lines etching in, standing in a mirror naked almost seems a punishment at times. I'm thankful i've kept a youthfull frame of mine, and that this shell I live in has aged well. But, being new to this lifestyle and trying to learn, sorting thru all the personalities that it draws i've come to the conclusion that if i do ever find the right one he will encourage me to better myself. Of course i'm saying this from the point of view of a Sub rather then a Slave and I do think that the difference in this question is vast in that perspective.

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RE: aging slaves - 1/28/2005 1:30:26 PM

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Don't forget that Dom's get old too.

Constent use of whips, floggers, paddles, and the hand can lead to carpil Tunnel disease, arthritis, and such. Joints get old as muscles and stamina may weaken. So it all works out as a couple grows together.

Sure some ppl think out with old and in with the new but they end up learning a new lesson all together by doing that. It varies from person to person so I can't tell you what the lesson is exactly.

Either way, enjoy every day you have with your other for it may be your last day.

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RE: aging slaves - 1/28/2005 5:44:50 PM

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I have hesitated to mention this but there is a Yahoo support group for submissive women 40 years or older. It seems to be a very active group, but I know nothing about it except the homepage.

A Submissive's Spirit

A Submissive's Spirit is a safe, discussion/support forum created exclusively for 40+ and over for female submissives in the Lifestyle. Topics of interest will include but are not limited to: Life and health issues, emotional well-being as well as the challenges we face as submissives as we become older. Join us in this exciting chapter of our lives while celebrating and rejoicing in our submissiveness.

Note: You must be 40 and over to join as well as having a Yahoo ID with your age and gender, otherwise you will not be approved.

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RE: aging slaves - 1/29/2005 6:25:10 AM

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Hmmmm...

My slave is 45 and I am 32, but I'll be damned if she isn't getting better with each passing year. She's still as gorgeous as ever, as selectively slutty as I could ever hope for, a wonderfully wretched masochist, and everything I could ever want in my slave.

Aging happens...it's just how you choose to live your life that will determine how well you hold up over the years. I'm looking forward to the years spent in the Old Sadists' home, and getting our pelvises replaced after years of wear and tear.

~Thorns

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RE: aging slaves - 1/31/2005 10:25:03 PM

DarkQuin

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Aging happens at a progressive rate that we cant stop, so therefore we must change how we do things. Just like if somebody who was in an accident learns to accept the changes in their life, so must we accept what Father Time gives us.

I'd suggest a pillow for the older slaves to sit on and maybe not kneel as their knees no longer have the ability to support them as gracefully as they once did. That the dynamics of the relationship change more to the mental aspects of BDSM and less things that are physically demanding be kept within her 'new' limits.

Life is about changing, to change one must grow and growth causes change.

I may not be able to do everything I was able to when I was 18, but there are lots more things I'm much better at since over the last decade. I'm much more sadistic and have to expend less effort than when I was in my early 20s, so age can be a good thing. <chuckle>

Have a good one

Quin

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RE: aging slaves - 2/1/2005 11:31:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkQuin

Aging happens at a progressive rate that we cant stop, so therefore we must change how we do things. Just like if somebody who was in an accident learns to accept the changes in their life, so must we accept what Father Time gives us.

I'd suggest a pillow for the older slaves to sit on and maybe not kneel as their knees no longer have the ability to support them as gracefully as they once did. That the dynamics of the relationship change more to the mental aspects of BDSM and less things that are physically demanding be kept within her 'new' limits.

As a slave in her late 40s, I will attest that the slave pillow is an invaluable tool because it allows one the opportunity to spend more time upon their knees in service to their Master despite the ravages of age or other physical limitations.

I have a large corduroy pillow that measures a bit over 24" square, it was purchased at K-Mart for under $15.00. (Joe Boxer item) I covered with a thick fleece material, no sewing required (I'll describe how to do it if anyone is interested) Master is a few years older than I am, and respects the fact that I may serve Him better when I am not feeling the discomfort of kneeling on hardwood floors.

Allowing an older submissive or slave some extra comfort is a good thing, although I respect those whose opinions and desires may differ. It works very well for Us.

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RE: aging slaves - 2/2/2005 3:02:15 AM

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I remember talking to a young couple about people in their 70's still doing kinky stuff. You should've seen the look on their faces which said ' everyone knows those over 50 stop doing it .'

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RE: aging slaves - 2/3/2005 12:40:02 PM

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I will put my two cents in. Getting closer to 50 I find there are things I can't do anymore so I would not expect a sub or slave to be able to do everything. Lets face it is not all about the physical things but the mind also. Besides I find women more mature then myself Hot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: aging slaves - 2/4/2005 3:03:06 PM

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See..... here is what irks me.

Just becaus they get "older and more mature" does not make them less worthwhile.

Why do 50 something males who are equaly "unattractive" to young females insist on stalking youth and ignoring their own age catagory ?

I haev seen a lot of very attractive 35-50 year old wemen that I would love to mess around with, flog, beat, suck, fuck, tickle, and "pickle in teh dillio" with.

Some of you "OLD FUDDY DUDDYS" need to start exercising the rest of the body to keep pace with the taut young flesh that your "peirs" are chasing.

"A womans body is the greatest weapon agains a mans mind..... some of yall just need to learn how to work it"

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Lost value!?! - 2/4/2005 7:46:30 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: domtimothy46176
I personally value much more than the physical acts of serving so I don't truly see my girl losing her usefulness to me as long as she still has her mind.

I quite agree. The concept that a slave will lose her value as she gets older appals me. I can see that if one is only into S&M, things might get that way but a true slave's value changes in nature as she matures and should not be lost.

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RE: aging slaves - 2/5/2005 4:24:21 PM

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Nah, I say just get rid of her if she can't chew the hides anymore...lol Do like the Eskimos---take her out and leave her on the ice flow when she's too old... Just kidding. She's been a good slave? Treat her well in her retirement. She's earned it! ---Flo

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RE: aging slaves - 2/6/2005 6:06:38 PM

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As one agesw one also "mellows" out.. the days of my youth are long gone.. the days of getting off 2-5 times a night are gone.. yet with age there comes a patience, a understanding and a more thoughtfull approch to life and sex..
There is no reason that a "Master" cannot be such all his life.. and that when he is put into the ground it will be so with the care and concern of a loving slave or two.. What happens after that.. One morns the loss.. accepts it as part of life and seeks another to offer ones self in petition to..

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