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That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/28/2005 7:13:50 AM

uponmyknees

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Hello Dommes. Please excuse my lack of intellect in regards to lay words.
Help me understand if you will. I'm met a young Domme in the area who has rejected my desire, ("ON-NO not AGAIN"). I am truthful with her demands, aka my desires and She blows my mind with a statement that even I question?
Yes I did ask her, (no reply yet) I suggested that I'm a low ,undesireable piece of shit that would like to be her maid. Her come back was "She prefers to belittle her subs on her own and that She wasn't interested"

Where do I get off? I know what I am,and if I should lie to Her and tell Her that I'm Joe business man with High Standards. That just isn't me. What should I do?

What?????? keep searching? Ok I'll let you talk! UPONMYKNEES

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/28/2005 8:11:46 AM

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I suggested that I'm a low ,undesireable piece of shit that would like to be her maid.

Uponmyknees, if you do not think of yourself as desirable why would she?

Seriously. Many dommes (maybe most) are not looking for a doormat to wipe their feet (although they might accept a good foot massage). They are looking for a sub who will make their life better. Your offer of maid service is a good one. Simply offer it up with humility... not degradation.

This is a related point...in offering the maid service (I assume you mean like housecleaning), just how important is the clothing you will wear? If you insist on a uniform it might make you less attractive as an potential partner. But you will have to decided what is important to you.

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/28/2005 12:57:31 PM

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I can not tell you how much I agree with onceburned. Why would a Domme want something without value. Also, if you already feel worthless, even if a Domme likes humiliation, it lacks the impact if you feel it is totally deserved. It sounds like you may need some therapy before you find a Domme. Although, you may be perfect for some Domme out there as you are.. the trick will just be finding them.

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/28/2005 8:52:23 PM

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Once burned. I see what you mean. Thank you. I may ponder of this for a short while. I must convince the Superior that I'm a proud man that is..... ofImoral being and is a willing servent,but has limets? Do I?
I guess i should just run an ad,as if I was seeking a adult woman in Yahoo personals? Ok I'll try this. Let's see what this mind game will bring.
Thank you.
I will show you the results daily.
uponmyknees

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/29/2005 4:48:51 AM

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I could do with a low, undersirable piece of shite everynow and then... and often find their submission more of a challenge than those who think they are worthy. Its a kink within a kink and doesn't make someone a doormat.

Jasmyn

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/29/2005 5:09:36 AM

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You don't seem to sell yourself well. your self esteemis low enough that you don't really need someone else to put you down, you do that well enough, but did you think that maybe she just doe's not have an interest in you, could be anything,just maybe not your type, also is she a real Domme or someone just pretending to be, it doe's happen. Dave

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/29/2005 9:30:49 AM

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If a sub said that to me i hope i'd be able to reply with such clarity too.

Why would i want to spend my time with someone who something that they consider not worthy of my time ? The highest insult to bestow on a Domme is to expect her to put up with something inferior. I expect my subs to have value, very high value on themselves, therefore their trust is much more valuable.

You are what i would refer to as a personality sub, which in my books is akin to a wimp. I dont want a wimp. Who does ?? I want someone to challenge me, press my buttons, make me think and work hard to enslave them. You would be no challenge whatsoever.

One manifestation of this is if a sub ever says to me that he doesnt like his body, or if he sucks in his stomach in my presence. I'll ask why, and if they are attempting to change it in any way, diet or exercise. If he wants to change it for the better and join a gym and diet sensibly, Excellent !! If he continues to moan without taking affirmative action, i get frustrated. I figure that as he is my sub, i consider him acceptable the way he is, as i am in control of him and his body. Low-selfesteem in a roundabout way is insulting something i own, control, care for and adore. I would dismiss a sub if he insulted my home or my body in such a manner, two things that i also own, control, care for and adore.

Geddit ?????
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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/30/2005 4:49:09 PM

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Dear Mistress. Ok what part of Canada or Calif do you live in?

I could be so much for you. And thank you for the defense. But.......I'm a brilant, self confident man that is submissive and I don't truly think of myself as that low life piece of shit. But I am submissive to Woman. It'a a real flaw on my part. I work for a Woman, who uses the hell out of me and OMG I love it. She drags me out of bed at 3 in the morning to go to the office,and start work and she will not allow me to go home untill I'm though with all my work. She only pays me for 8 hours aday and enen then I'm to go home with anything to eat each day!
I wish she would take me home and make me clear her house,and do the chores,and I think she knows this. But she just laughs at me in the meetings and in her office. I feel so degraded. I love this feelong. But I'm confident and want this to never end.
uponmyknees

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/30/2005 4:53:56 PM

uponmyknees

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Dave that you. That is a graet idea. Perhaps she isn't?! You know a man must try to do everything a man can to be all he can be.
Thank you.
uponmyknees

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/30/2005 5:03:15 PM

uponmyknees

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Ok Mistress. I'm asking YOU!
How does a sub man catch your eye?
Do I wear my $ 500.00 business suit, carry my $90.00 brief case and don a top hat? Perhap a copy of my 1040 from 2003 showing you that for being a sub I do better the 6 figures?
What words do you find in a request to be yours, do you find appealing? What or how should a man show you is submissive and that he isn't a whimp?

What would you have suggested I show this Woman? This Woman of Superior Gender?
Perhaps that I'm the police officer that I am here in Binghamton NY? A blue uniform,the hat maybe that a glock hands from my left and on, don't forget my cuffs!
I don't know what you Woman want?

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/30/2005 6:46:22 PM

ShadeDiva

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Soul.

Not the packaging.

Basically you are focusing on the masks you use.

Get rid of them.

Focus on submission itself, not the wrapping.

It sounds offhand that you have a lot of inner work to do still.

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/31/2005 3:16:03 AM

Redb

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uponmyknees... .who are you asking these questions of ??
you call everyone mistress but no-where did i request to be called Mistress by you so i'm not sure who you are replying to.
Could you be more specific ?

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 1/31/2005 7:14:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: uponmyknees

I suggested that I'm a low ,undesireable piece of shit that would like to be her maid. Her come back was "She prefers to belittle her subs on her own and that She wasn't interested"

I do believe that there are a lot of Mistresses out there on the internet looking for slaves who think just as you do. Most often though they are a young pretty girl playing the part just to get your money.

I don't mean to offend anyone by that comment and I am certainly not saying that all Mistresses with a website are this way. However, just by viewing many sites over the years the ones who seem to seek slaves who have so little self worth do fit that profile.

I have been active in my community Fetish scene for many years and I have never actually met a Mistress who wanted such a slave.

Personally my woman senses tell me to stay far away from someone who thinks as little of themselves as you do. Your offer may be genuine but the way you present it makes it unappealing.

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 2/1/2005 6:48:35 AM

uponmyknees

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Perhaps I was toooooooooooo belittling. I own a small service in another state and yes I'm submissive. Low and a piece of shit?..... Well perhaps not. But I thought this Domme would want me to be a submissive to a lower form. I guess my terms were to great for her and the rest of the community,But I am seeking a Domme to be hers to. I'm not the type that tells the Domme what I want I truly believe that a sub should do as he or she is told and with out haveing to have his or her hands held.
Is it too late to reconnect? I think it maybe,because she will think that I'm lieing. Am I'm really not!. Can you or others help me,Please?
uponmyknees

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 2/1/2005 6:52:02 AM

uponmyknees

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Mistress? You are not the first to tell me this. I think I prefer your statement best. I Will work on being a better submissive .
I ask, please. would you offer me knowledge?
uponmyknees

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 2/1/2005 7:07:52 AM

uponmyknees

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Good After Noon ShadeDiva. Thank you.

I have taken your advice and gone to your project. I have registered and am seeking an education in soul. I have registered undersubmale in training. Perhaps I can be taught? I will do as I am told. I will remove the masks and obsorbe the knowledge of SOUL.
Thank you.
uponmyknees

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 2/1/2005 7:10:47 AM

uponmyknees

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I'm sorry, I didn't see the attachment. OMG your so pretty. Again what coast are you upon?
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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 2/1/2005 7:14:00 AM

uponmyknees

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Sorry, I see thare are some here who don't favor that expression. How may I address you? And oh....I don't call every one Mistress. There are a few other names I use. Perhaps they are not as polite as Mistress.
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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 2/1/2005 7:30:50 AM

uponmyknees

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uponmyknees has read the messages here in ASK A MISTRESS. I agree. The statement LOW AND PIECE OF SHIT was and is too harsh. I have corrected this. I would say a donning of a suit would suggest that I'm not any less or any more then, I am current. But I seek knowledge. And to some extent I am recieving those tips of knowledge here. I seek more. I offer me to you and need to please you. I wish to learn. UPONMYKNEES isn't just a catchy phrase. It's my true intent,Am I too old to think that Women,(Dommes) are not seeking a maid? Perhaps a sissy or to phrase me as a slave vs, servent a greater but less descriptive journey. I understand all and yes you are correct. I needn't be so, demanning nor so.....embracing of the idea that I must be lower then dirt nor beneath those I seek to agree and desire to please.
Am I wrong to want to please the Mistress? The SUPERIOR GENDER? Please all that I ask, is to united with that of a DOMME to please and feel as though I'm worth more then nothing. UPONMYKNEES

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RE: That ever so this white line, para guide to ..... - 2/1/2005 7:38:59 AM

onceburned

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quote:

ORIGINAL: uponmyknees
Is it too late to reconnect? I think it maybe,because she will think that I'm lieing. Am I'm really not!. Can you or others help me,Please?

There's an old saying: "You only get one chance to make a first impression".

She has already formed an impression of you, and first impressions are hard to change. You are probably best off to be looking for someone else. Contacting her again would only seem like pestering.

Chalk it up to experience. You've learned something, and you won't make the same mistake twice.

Good luck in your search.

Edit:

I am far from an expert on this, but you might consider being a bit more restrained in how you approach a potential domme. The goal is to find the one who is right for you (and vice versa). Dommes are not interchangeable pieces of meat. Each one is a distinct and unique human being and will appreciate being treated as such.

When you write a domme, use discretion. Only write the ones whose profiles seem to match your own or what you can realistically offer. (pssst... and keep it private too!)

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