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thetammyjo -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/26/2006 8:03:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BDSM05478

There are many Christans that don't believe in the Trinity either....but that isn't for me to judge. Actually by the old testament ALL woman should have their heads covered, including christan woman since we too include the Torah in our books, do I ......umm no. People pick and choice what to follow in all faiths, it doesn't change what was origainally written.


This doesn't address my point at all.

Where did Jesus tell women to be submissive? He didn't. In fact it appears that some women followed meaning they weren't at home taking care of the hubby and having babies.

Other authors may have but they are not him.

Besides all of that is does not eliminate the fact that the ideas aren't Christian, they are patriarchal.

Patriarchy precedes Christian by thousands of years so claiming that having a submissive wife and a dominant huband = Christianity is ignoring historical reality.

If you want to claim something as Christian you should claim something that is truly and uniquely Christian like the belief in Jesus as the son of God or God incarnate -- even there there have been disagreements over the centuries between "Christians".

Stop trying to justify male dominance and female submission with Christianity -- just say you are a patriarch and go to it. Better yet just say you and your wife/girl friend/whatever like it like this.

You don't need religion to explain your dynamics.

If you think you do, that is just so bizarre to me.

(the "you" here is generic not specifically toward BDSM05478)




SirLordTrainer -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/26/2006 5:27:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Even Goreans believe in Blowjobs............


You gotta have faith.





your response here has no relevance to anything that was said. the gorean board is down the hall and to your left. 




mnottertail -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/26/2006 5:53:16 PM)

Because you are irrelavant doesnt mean you cant be here, either.

Ron




Sinergy -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/26/2006 6:13:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thetammyjo

You don't need religion to explain your dynamics.



I could not have said it any better myself, thetammyjo.

Sinergy




SirLordTrainer -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/27/2006 4:37:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MzMia

Everyone is different and everyone lives this lifestyle a different way.
I happen to love the Lord, and I did not decide to turn my back on GOD,
because I embrace certain aspects of this lifestyle.
I also do not feel I have to defend my views or my values.
I will say this, no one is in a position to judge any one else here.
If Christianity is NOT for you, so be it.
I don't judge devil worshippers and the like, so lets just agree to live and let live.
There is a much higher judge than man, and we all will answer to him.
Namaste


This isnt about having to defend views or values. Its about offering a view of if and how Christianity affects you and your D/s way of life as well how some Christian sects view us and how you deal with it. Refer to pg 1 for more detail if you like. Thanks.




ExSteelAgain -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/27/2006 6:54:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Because you are irrelevant doesnt mean you cant be here, either.

Ron



I'll take a Christian or atheistic blow job. It matters to me. Relevant.




BrazilianMoves -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/27/2006 7:37:40 PM)

Hi All-

I am sorry my apologies I dont know all of the names that gathered on this topic. I am a Christian...But to me- I am striving daily to be Christ Like, however it will never happen, because we all sin. *smiles* I can also relate to the topic of Christian BDSM as well... Although, I am only speaking from my point of view- I have struggled with this..Mainly because there are so many that want or need certain things from this aspect, that I cannot do- therefore for me, the only option is to find someone compatible, for me that I can relish in without having the anxieties. Yes- some of the things i have done while being in BDSM all of my 15 years- some of it was emotionally challenging to me- therefore i am no settling and just waiting....*smiles...Someone mentioned that there really isnt a difference between Christian BDSM- and standard BDSM...for me, I would think, and would like to still carry out the forms of BDSM with a partner in a monogamous relationship....Not with others....The comment about the female being subserivent..Actually, to me this means that I am a help mate to my spouse...He is the head and answers to God for any screw ups. It is not my position to be in charge and tell him what to do and how to run it. it is my duty, to give input when needed, and to help assist in reaching the goal... Please- this is all what *i* believe.....so- dont start throwing fruit at me...*smiles... yes I am strong, I am a strong woman, but without the correct order of the head of household- then it kinda starts to fizzle downward...
As for the writing in the sand.. This is what God told me when I was talking to him...I questioned that also..What he told me was the writing of the sand represented himself when he wrote the Commandments in the tablets for Moses... Well, God was Jesus in form, and when Jesus did that he was trying to show that it is the law, the same law that he had already written to Moses..... I talk to God every day..I get answers, and I am blessed to have seen so many supernatural things happen. Not all are good, but- all in all, i am doing what he wants...He wants a willing- giving heart... I love him...I am like David from Psalms...No matter how bad I screw up, how much damage I do to myself and at times others, I have a love for him...genuine....

Thank you for allowing me this opportunity to say this.
You are all wonderful people.

Brazil




SirLordTrainer -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/28/2006 4:10:40 AM)

'Interesting view there brazil.. Thanks for sharing




SirLordTrainer -> RE: "Christian" BDSM? (11/29/2006 6:20:05 AM)

Not really Christian oriented but no doubt how some may view us, heres a bit of early morning smack-talk to gander over your coffee. http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/2006/01/26/in-which-the-author-pronounces-on-a-popular-hobby/




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