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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/26/2006 10:26:15 PM   
JerseyKrissi72


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Status: offline 		I am not working at the moment but if i were...you just have to be computer literate enough and know how to erase all your tracks online I am open about who I am and if someone can't accept that, that is their problem...

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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 7:01:23 AM   
MizSuz


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ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie

CM came up as "legal liability" for some reason.


It's a legal liability to the company because if the wrong person is walking by your desk when that spread eagle, cock or tit shot comes up on your screen they can then scream sexual harassment and hostile work environment.  Then the company has to pay to defend against these allegations.  Whether its their fault or not and whether they win or not, they still have to pay and expend resources to defend against it.  That makes it a legal liability.  And yes, MANY people take jobs and then look for ways to get a settlement (lots and lots of people do this).

I've seen companies lay literally hundreds of people off due to the cost of defending litigation (not necessarily sexual harassment litigation).  Litigation instigated by the greedy and their hungry lawyers.  Since I did the background investigations on these plaintiffs I can say I have a pretty good idea of the average plaintiff in this regard, at least with one company, and use of the word "greedy" is being kind.

Even if you're never approached about the sites you visit at work, you should know that any company with a real network has logs and if they are looking for a reason to let you go inexpensively (reads without severence, benefits, etc.) you can believe they will have IT audit those logs.

If you're not keeping your surfing to business only at work you are endangering your job and you may be putting others at your work place at risk of litigation.


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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 7:19:44 AM   
MizSuz


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ORIGINAL: JerseyKrissi72

I am not working at the moment but if i were...you just have to be computer literate enough and know how to erase all your tracks online I am open about who I am and if someone can't accept that, that is their problem...



You can't erase the logs that the server creates (unless you have access to those logs).  If your company uses a server, and you think that cleaning your temp files and cache is protecting you, you are grossly misinformed.


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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 8:33:42 AM   
NINASHARP


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Seeing by the responses to this thread, I see now that my using my own laptop and having a wireless card has it's advantages.

Ok, so I know that some people abuse their internet usage and thats not really good for your company. But I would hate to see anyone get fired from a job just because they are browsing the message boards, and I'm sorry if that doesn't go over well with the bosses who have to police dog their employees, but I can think of many better reasons to get fired from a job then just being bored after all work is done and deciding to hang out here.

I'll let you in on a little secret, some of you may already know this, but for those who don't, you can use your internet tools on your web browser and under the tab privacy, click the site option and enter the site you want to block the cookies to that you don't want tracked. You won't be able to log on under your screen name, but you can still surf as a guest. Another tip (and I'm being naughty now by posting this), but to block your spyware that your company/or anyone else has installed on your computer, go to a website that has live radio. Have the radio running in the back ground on your computer. I know this works with Spectorsoft eBlaster one the popular spyware software. Can't promise it works for all spyware but I know it does with this one.

Here is a link to a radio site that you can use to run in the back ground.  http://213.200.64.229/freestream/download/radiohamburg/new/frame.html

Happy surfing!

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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 8:51:16 AM   
ownedgirlie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NINASHARP
I'll let you in on a little secret, some of you may already know this, but for those who don't, you can use your internet tools on your web browser and under the tab privacy, click the site option and enter the site you want to block the cookies to that you don't want tracked. You won't be able to log on under your screen name, but you can still surf as a guest. Another tip (and I'm being naughty now by posting this), but to block your spyware that your company/or anyone else has installed on your computer, go to a website that has live radio. Have the radio running in the back ground on your computer. I know this works with Spectorsoft eBlaster one the popular spyware software. Can't promise it works for all spyware but I know it does with this one.

Here is a link to a radio site that you can use to run in the back ground.  http://213.200.64.229/freestream/download/radiohamburg/new/frame.html

Happy surfing!


Cookies have nothing to do with a company's tracking capabilities.  MzSuz's posts were absolutely correct.  Once you are logged into the company's network, any site you hit gets logged, pure and simple.  You can clean up anything you want on your pc - cookies, temp files, history, and it will not change the network logs.  Period.  This is bad advice to give people for the purpose of not being tracked at work.  If you don't want to be tracked at work, don't surf the sites they don't allow.  Either that, or sleep with your networking guys...lol.

And most who use streaming audio or video at work are probably going to call attention to themselves, and get asked to stop sucking up all the bandwidth.  At my work, streaming audio & video is blocked, but I have never heard of it blocking spyware.  I haven't heard of companies putting spyware on individual computers, either.  At work, we use a program called "TrackIt!"  TrackIt runs an inventory of everyone's computers and what programs are on it, among other types of reports.  WebSense is the internet tracker, which has nothing to do with spyware.  It tracks what sites are being logged onto the network.  If you want to get rid of spyware, run a spyware program (SpyBot, Adaware, etc.) but I am only familiar with spyware being placed on computers by various internet sites. 

I have a laptop and wireless Edge card also. I can log out of the company's network and get online using the card and I am no longer trackable in our network.  But that's usually a lot of work to go through just to read a message board. 

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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 8:58:23 AM   
cris1


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Status: offline 		This site is blocked at my place of employment, most sites of an adult nature are blocked.

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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 9:00:04 AM   
NINASHARP


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Status: offline 		I wasn't aware that you once you used your privacy option, before logging into a website, that your company could still see that you were there. Never had to worry about it, but hey, I don't want to give out bad advice, either! Thank you very much for the correction.

As for the streaming audio blocking spyware. It does. At least with this one spyware program. That is from what I have experienced personally. 




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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 9:24:09 AM   
ownedgirlie


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Status: offline 		At our company, there was a group of people who thought they could circumvent the internet tracking systems.  They thought they were going around WebSense, as it were.  I don't know exactly what they were doing, but guess what - they were caught doing it.  What they don't know now is that they are being tracked like never before.  Most of them are going to porn sites.  Their time at our company is pretty limited at this point.

By the way, Nina, I agree with you that personally I see nothing wrong with a little down time at work spent browsing.  I've tried to tell our network guys - if it's not surfing, people will be on the phone, or emailing each other, or chatting in the hallways.  People need down time.  It clears the mind and helps them function.  But I also agree, I wouldn't want to walk into some guys office and see picture of a woman spread eagle on his monitor. Decorum should also be practiced :)

Interesting about the spyware program.  I'll check it out.

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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/27/2006 8:21:51 PM   
BBBTBW


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Status: offline 		The thing people need to remember when they think they are getting around a network tracking system, is that in order for their Individual Computer to get on the internet they have to go thru the server which is where the tracking programs are kept....just like getting to the airport terminal.  You have to go thru the checkpoints in order to get to the terminal.  There are very few free and clear ways around it.  Just don't do it at work and especially where customers (if that applies) can see you.

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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/28/2006 10:48:50 AM   
MistressSassy66


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Status: offline 		I work at a Library and this site should be blocked,but due to a new operating system,we have been unable to get the blocks back up.
We are in the process of getting a new blocking system,I go around to see what sites I can get on...then report to the Head Librian what ones are still accessible.

I take note of who is around,and use the PC in the corner where most cant see.
My job duties or lifstyle interests are not for everyone to see.

I dont think that you should be looking at these types of sites in a place where just anyone can see it.Maybe you dont care if people know you do it....but there are pics of O/others who prefer to remain hidden,browsing their profiles/forums in a public setting could be outing someone you dont even know.


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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/28/2006 11:19:30 AM   
AbstractSavant


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Status: offline 		It makes me so sad to see the people blase about accessing a site like this at work.

It's fine if you're confident it won't affect your job because your immediate bosses know, but what happens when a higher up or an owner finds out?

I worked for a real-estate company once that not only fired an agent for accessing porn at work, but prosecuted him and sued him for the court fees.

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RE: Collarme.com at work - 10/28/2006 1:35:44 PM   
xunderyoux


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ORIGINAL: BBBTBW

I went to a place of business and saw one of the employees reading the message boards here on collarme.com.  It wasn't my place of business, I was but a consumer of the services they sell.  This is a place I don't frequent so I am not familiar with the person I saw reading this.  I just want to say that even though you might think you are being discreet when reading the boards, you never know when someone might recognize the pages you are on.  I did not say anything to this person nor do I intend to.  But please be careful because others might not be as discreet as you are about your lifestyle and interests.

Ms Loren


it should be obvious that people should not be reading collar me at work. what are you doing? get to work!

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