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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 6:08:48 PM   
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Neither.

Both are losers who do eactly the opposite of what they say they do.

If voting changed anything..theyd make it illegal.

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 6:37:21 PM   
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I dont like any politicans. Republicans are complete assholes. Democrats are spineless dweebs. Libertarians are as socially naive as Communists are economically naive.

Obama seems to have his head in the game, but I'm not convinced. After all, John McCain flaked to the far-right and he spent 5 years in a POW camp.

I'm creating a new political party.. The No More Bullshit Party.

I'm enforcing the following ideals:

100% secular government. If God wants to be part of the government, he can come down and run for president himself.

Using every single freedom encroaching piece of legislature to destroy the personal lives of those politicians who passed those bills in the first place. I'm going to label every single Conservative Congressman an Enemy Combatant and toss all of them into Guantanamo Bay where they will endure the most humiliating tortures imaginable by Johnny Knoxville and Bam Magera. Every bit of which will be filmed and put on cable television as the next big thing in reality TV.

Enforce new payroll mandates. Every elected official will make no more, annually, than the average annual salary of the average individual in their area of representation. If  congress wants a raise, then they have to make sure those tax cuts for the upper class they dole out every few months ACTUALLY trickles down into someplace other than an offshore tax-shelter.

Enforce new corporate regulations regarding buying and selling of new businesses. Upon passing of the bill, any business or organization that buys out another business or organization must keep at least 75% of the currently available employee positions from the business bought out, open for no less than 10 years after the acquisition.

In addition, any corporate entity that acts like a hostile, independent nation (eg expecting special deals for operating within US borders, treating their employees  unconstitutionally, breaking US laws within our borders, trying to economically blackmail the US) will be treated like a hostile, independent nation (ie borders invaded with HEAVY firepower, lands and equipment seized, children of those in power placed in federal prisons or shot on sight).

Marijuana and Prostitution will be legalized, regulated and taxed. This country wastes far too many resources combating such petty crimes. Also because it was only by the most ridiculous aesthetics that either was made illegal in the first place.





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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:05:27 PM   
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Zenrage.... Can I join your party?

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:17:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ZenrageTheKeeper

I dont like any politicans. Republicans are complete assholes. Democrats are spineless dweebs. Libertarians are as socially naive as Communists are economically naive.

Obama seems to have his head in the game, but I'm not convinced. After all, John McCain flaked to the far-right and he spent 5 years in a POW camp.

I'm creating a new political party.. The No More Bullshit Party.

I'm enforcing the following ideals:

100% secular government. If God wants to be part of the government, he can come down and run for president himself.

Using every single freedom encroaching piece of legislature to destroy the personal lives of those politicians who passed those bills in the first place. I'm going to label every single Conservative Congressman an Enemy Combatant and toss all of them into Guantanamo Bay where they will endure the most humiliating tortures imaginable by Johnny Knoxville and Bam Magera. Every bit of which will be filmed and put on cable television as the next big thing in reality TV.

Enforce new payroll mandates. Every elected official will make no more, annually, than the average annual salary of the average individual in their area of representation. If  congress wants a raise, then they have to make sure those tax cuts for the upper class they dole out every few months ACTUALLY trickles down into someplace other than an offshore tax-shelter.

Enforce new corporate regulations regarding buying and selling of new businesses. Upon passing of the bill, any business or organization that buys out another business or organization must keep at least 75% of the currently available employee positions from the business bought out, open for no less than 10 years after the acquisition.

In addition, any corporate entity that acts like a hostile, independent nation (eg expecting special deals for operating within US borders, treating their employees  unconstitutionally, breaking US laws within our borders, trying to economically blackmail the US) will be treated like a hostile, independent nation (ie borders invaded with HEAVY firepower, lands and equipment seized, children of those in power placed in federal prisons or shot on sight).

Marijuana and Prostitution will be legalized, regulated and taxed. This country wastes far too many resources combating such petty crimes. Also because it was only by the most ridiculous aesthetics that either was made illegal in the first place.








Zenrage, I like it.
What would your party do about illegals, foreign aid and getting us out of the "U.N."?

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:24:56 PM   
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Lorelei: Sure.

The FCC will no longer be allowed to issue fines for indecency. If you don't like what's on TV, get off your ass and change the channel yourself. No one has the unalienable right to television and no one has anything near the right to expect to use it as a nanny for their children.

The No More Bullshit Party is inventive, vulgar and highly inappropriate because that is how real world changes take place.


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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:26:36 PM   
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Almost Gov.-elect of New York Elliot Spitzer & Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico


Fascinating pairing! I think it like it.

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:29:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ZenrageTheKeeper

I dont like any politicans. Republicans are complete assholes. Democrats are spineless dweebs. Libertarians are as socially naive as Communists are economically naive.

Obama seems to have his head in the game, but I'm not convinced. After all, John McCain flaked to the far-right and he spent 5 years in a POW camp.

I'm creating a new political party.. The No More Bullshit Party.

I'm enforcing the following ideals:

100% secular government. If God wants to be part of the government, he can come down and run for president himself.

Using every single freedom encroaching piece of legislature to destroy the personal lives of those politicians who passed those bills in the first place. I'm going to label every single Conservative Congressman an Enemy Combatant and toss all of them into Guantanamo Bay where they will endure the most humiliating tortures imaginable by Johnny Knoxville and Bam Magera. Every bit of which will be filmed and put on cable television as the next big thing in reality TV.

Enforce new payroll mandates. Every elected official will make no more, annually, than the average annual salary of the average individual in their area of representation. If  congress wants a raise, then they have to make sure those tax cuts for the upper class they dole out every few months ACTUALLY trickles down into someplace other than an offshore tax-shelter.

Enforce new corporate regulations regarding buying and selling of new businesses. Upon passing of the bill, any business or organization that buys out another business or organization must keep at least 75% of the currently available employee positions from the business bought out, open for no less than 10 years after the acquisition.

In addition, any corporate entity that acts like a hostile, independent nation (eg expecting special deals for operating within US borders, treating their employees  unconstitutionally, breaking US laws within our borders, trying to economically blackmail the US) will be treated like a hostile, independent nation (ie borders invaded with HEAVY firepower, lands and equipment seized, children of those in power placed in federal prisons or shot on sight).

Marijuana and Prostitution will be legalized, regulated and taxed. This country wastes far too many resources combating such petty crimes. Also because it was only by the most ridiculous aesthetics that either was made illegal in the first place.


You got my vote!

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:42:47 PM   
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The No More Bullshit Party...

On Illegal Immagration:
Hunt them down and ship them out and at the same time, secure the borders - Make it a priority for as long as it takes. 12 million didn't come in in a week, 12 million wont go out in a week. Put armed guards along the Texas border for the drug traffickers. For those immigrants that have American children, ship out the  parents, and drop kick the kids into social services. If two felons were to escape prison and have a baby on the outside, would you just let them raise their family?

Foreign Aid: No more aid to Saudi Arabia or other oil rich contries that don't need it. Those countries suffering from natural disasters on a case-by-case basis only. We've got plenty of malnourished people in our own country that need our help.

The United Nations: The global community is important. Living in a free society, even a global one, does not mean living in a society free of responsibility or neglecting our fair share of those responsibities. As such, we can not abandon the UN, but at the same time, we can not remain the United Nation's sole source of economic resources. Changes would be made in our position there, but we can neither become isolationists to the global community nor can we expect to be the world's lord and master.

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:44:07 PM   
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100% secular government. If God wants to be part of the government, he can come down and run for president himself.





As long as your HATRED for astrology doesn't make you a Hilter wanna be.

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 7:49:18 PM   
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On Illegal Immagration: Hunt them down and ship them out and at the same time, secure the borders - Make it a priority for as long as it takes. Put armed guards along the Texas border for the drug traffickers. For those immigrants that have American children, ship out the  parents, and drop kick the kids into social services. If two felons were to escape prison and have a baby on the outside, would you just let them raise their family?


Lost me on that one. But I do like the rest of your platform.

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 8:21:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ZenrageTheKeeper

The United Nations: The global community is important. Living in a free society, even a global one, does not mean living in a society free of responsibility or neglecting our fair share of those responsibities. As such, we can not abandon the UN, but at the same time, we can not remain the United Nation's sole source of economic resources. Changes would be made in our position there, but we can neither become isolationists to the global community nor can we expect to be the world's lord and master.


Um? Although it is the largest contributor (in theory) the USA is not the UN's sole financial support. In fact is owes back dues of  $675 million. The UN is good value for the USA and has been a useful front.

I agree with much of what you say. That imigration policy is a bit jackbootish though - making kids pay for their parents mistakes seems vindictive. 0

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 9:20:48 PM   
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For me- it would be Barrack Obama for President with Hillary as his Vice president. (Hey, I like Hillary- what can I say.  Besides, I can't think of another Democrat  to put in that slot.  Although John Edwards is a nice piece of eye candy).
 
This would ensure  that Barrack would be very protected because Hillary would be the next in line. This same premise protected Bush being no one wanted Chaney in the top spot.  Plus, Hillary has the experience that Barrack lacks right now.
 
What is your winning team- ANY party.


I don't have a winning team, but rather a much better solution:

I'd like to see it where the 550 person elected body in congress is replaced by a lotto style drawing. And then the president and all the cabinet members would be elected from that body. Then we'd have another drawing to make up the difference in lost positions to the cabinet, so every state has equal representation.

We'd have mail men, utility workers, artists, doctors, homeless people, teachers, etc, etc., instead of lawyers, lifetime politicians, and the traditional CEO mentality types - A true peer based representation of people.

To anyone who thinks my idea isn’t workable....I seriously ask you how it could put us in any worse shape than we are now.

We're on the verge of world war III ; We have to borrow two-billion dollars a day over and above what we collect in taxes just to stay a float, Our civil liberties are being disparaged, our autonomy is slowly being destroyed by open borders, and we are surrounded by hundreds and hundreds of self-centered liars and crooks for politicians.


Select 570 brand new people at random.....the world begins to look like a whole lot better place.



 - R


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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 9:24:16 PM   
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Perhaps the biggest problem with today’s elected politicians, is you don't end up getting anything close to what you bargained for.


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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 9:50:54 PM   
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Zenrage, I like your Party more and more!
Ranger, I like your idea too!

(But, there's the little matter of the $22-$24 Billion that the "U.N." "misplaced" in Oil for Food and the fact that Cofi's son was a BAGMAN for a company doing "business" with the "U.N.")
Hey! Maybe if the U.S. doesn't pay our "dues" they'll throw us out of the "U.N."!

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 9:57:21 PM   
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John McCain if it is his pre-2005 form with a Democratic House and Senate. I can only think he is changed to suck up to the Republican party for the primaries. Nice try but I doubt the money people will be fooled.

Barrak very promising but very inexperienced. Maybe in 2012. I like Hillary but she does not have a snowball chance in heck to win in a genreal election. Too many soccer moms hate her with a passion! Edwards is a wimp, but a cute wimp, who made Kerry look macho.

I like Bayh and Bidon for the Democrats although Bidon has too many skeletons already out of the closet to have any shot.


McCain will never win, he does not know how to play dirty politics (kudos to him though), he will not make it out of the primaries.  Agreed on Hillary, America is still not ready to vote a woman in as President.  Feingold could make a strong ticket.  Kerry needs another 4 years to correct his image. Obama maybe, but are we ready to vote for a non-white man?  The Ford for Senate race may change your opinion about that.( Disgusting)I think we need one more generation to grow up and be able to vote for that.  Gov. Bill Richardson(NM) has already impressed me.  As much as people hate election time, it does fire people up doesn't it?   I say Feingold/Richardson.  And you cannot elect a tenured Senator as President anymore, I think Kerry proved that one.  He has to make it in as VP then Pres.  Make sure to vote!

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 10:04:04 PM   
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One More Tonight...

No More Bullshit Party on Voting Reform: We will make "None of the Above" a valid choice on all ballots for all elected positions. If "None of the Above" gets the majority of the votes then none of the candidates get in. A new election is held within 3 months and none of the previous candidates may run for that position again.



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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 10:12:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lookn4yin

quote:

ORIGINAL: toservez

John McCain if it is his pre-2005 form with a Democratic House and Senate. I can only think he is changed to suck up to the Republican party for the primaries. Nice try but I doubt the money people will be fooled.

Barrak very promising but very inexperienced. Maybe in 2012. I like Hillary but she does not have a snowball chance in heck to win in a genreal election. Too many soccer moms hate her with a passion! Edwards is a wimp, but a cute wimp, who made Kerry look macho.

I like Bayh and Bidon for the Democrats although Bidon has too many skeletons already out of the closet to have any shot.


McCain will never win, he does not know how to play dirty politics (kudos to him though), he will not make it out of the primaries.  Agreed on Hillary, America is still not ready to vote a woman in as President.  Feingold could make a strong ticket.  Kerry needs another 4 years to correct his image. Obama maybe, but are we ready to vote for a non-white man?  The Ford for Senate race may change your opinion about that.( Disgusting)I think we need one more generation to grow up and be able to vote for that.  Gov. Bill Richardson(NM) has already impressed me.  As much as people hate election time, it does fire people up doesn't it?   I say Feingold/Richardson.  And you cannot elect a tenured Senator as President anymore, I think Kerry proved that one.  He has to make it in as VP then Pres.  Make sure to vote!


Lookin, John Kerry needs another 4 years to correct his image?
Ah, I think he's already had about 35 years! lol
(Just think Thurston Howel the rich guy on Gilligans' Island; "Oh Lovey!" "Where's my polo mallet?" Someone once offered him a beer at a picnic and he said; "Do you have a single malt scotch?")
I'd like to see some non-political people getting into it!
Ranger has some good ideas on that.
Lookin, how 'bout YOU run for congress?

That's the problem with Washington; there are too many people there with too much experience!

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 10:24:15 PM   
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Wesley Clark and perhaps either Edwards, Richardson, or Spitzer.

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 10:37:14 PM   
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Edwards .,Carey, amd Hillarey all need to see a shrink thay or all nuts  Try Nute Gingridge And Olie Nourth if you wont the perfict teem as Prez  and  VP , be shour to vote

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RE: What's Your winning team? (POLITICS) - 10/26/2006 10:38:29 PM   
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Pat Buchannan AND Alan Keyes.

Alienate EVERYONE!

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