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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/29/2006 9:42:44 AM   
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Paradoxy:My Master is very skinny also, but I sure don't mean it as an insult when I call him that.  He is very sexy to me, and I love him.  I can't see your whole pic on here, but you look fine to me.  He is the same, has to eat like 6,000 calories a day or something in order to gain a few pounds.  I can't see how the health risks would outweigh staying the way he is. 

We are all varied in what we find attractive, I know a lot don't find me attractive, but I have talked to my share that have.  We can't control that part of ourselves, and what we find appealing, I just don't think we should ridicule others cause they don't look that way.
 
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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/29/2006 4:24:16 PM   
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Hey I can relate.  Especially with males, I think being thin is viewed negatively.  My nephew is prone to wearing his clothing very loose- not for fashion- but to make himself look bigger.  But personally I love thin, wiry types.  :)
Wait until you hit maddle age and start gaining weight.. you'll look fabulous next to your peers and their beer guts! 


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I'm a skinny guy.  As in REALLY skinny.

I wonder if the women in my life realised that telling a guy he's skinny in this society is an awful lot like telling a woman she's fat.

Yeah, it bothers me a little I can't gain weight which I could turn into a fine-tone...

I could undergo a 3,000+ calerie diet and gain five pounds in a month.  I don't like eating that much, though, and I'm sure it wouldn't be good for me anyway.


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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/29/2006 6:01:39 PM   
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quote:

I could undergo a 3,000+ calerie diet and gain five pounds in a month. 


Hell, I could gain five pounds in an hour. 8-)

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/30/2006 12:40:18 PM   
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I am not a biggot.
My jaw is only stress tested for 135 lbs. 
If you weigh more than this you may not be on the top
thompson



upon reflection and consultation I would like to reword the above statement to read:
"if you weigh more than this you may not be on top without support"

thompson

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/30/2006 12:51:54 PM   
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hey MEN!!  if you weigh more than 135 pounds .. you may not be on top .. without support ...

I'm sorry for mocking your statement thompson, but if women set a standard similar to yours .. there wouldn't be any sex involving top or bottom positions happening anywhere


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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/31/2006 4:26:41 PM   
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Solia:
Not so...if my jaw is broken by someone over 135# not using support then no more moustache rides.  I am only trying to insure a continued supply of quality moustache rides for those ladies who enjoy them.

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/31/2006 4:30:42 PM   
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I wanna ride but you're gonna hafta shave that thing. *wink*  

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 10/31/2006 7:27:35 PM   
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Solia:
Not so...if my jaw is broken by someone over 135# not using support then no more moustache rides.  I am only trying to insure a continued supply of quality moustache rides for those ladies who enjoy them.

thompson


If your jaw was broken from delivering cunnilingus, you either have an incredibly bizarre technique or you desperately need a calcium supplement.

Try eliminating the counter-clockwise swirl.


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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 5:54:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WetHotGoddess

I wanna ride but you're gonna hafta shave that thing. *wink*  


WetHotGoddess:
I would be more than happy to help you out, I will trim and wax it but cut it off ....nah...girlz need handles to hold onto.
Somehow heather has found out one of the secrets to my success and now she is telling everyone about the counter-clockwise swirl.
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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 6:07:55 AM   
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Solia:
Not so...if my jaw is broken by someone over 135# not using support then no more moustache rides.  I am only trying to insure a continued supply of quality moustache rides for those ladies who enjoy them.

thompson


If your jaw was broken from delivering cunnilingus, you either have an incredibly bizarre technique or you desperately need a calcium supplement.

Try eliminating the counter-clockwise swirl.



justheather:
I do not know how you found out about the c-c swirl but you are absolutely correct.  It is an extreemly tricky (and sometimes dangerous) maneuver and requires  split second  timing and communication.  When done successfuly it always brings praise and demands for an encore.

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 11:06:12 AM   
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When I was younger I was VERY skinny.  Everyone hated me. I was ridiculed.  I was ugly and dorky.  Of course, since I was skinny and not fat, I got no sympathy. And now, people wonder why I am such a bitch.

These days being oversized is in style.  Being able to "eat like a man" and consume mass quantities of food is something that is marketed to show a "healthy" appetite.  Why is there a double-standard concerning obesity as opposed to being thin?    It is OK to be fat but NOT ok to be skinny..  Why is that?  I  never had anyone compliment me on being thin. Instead, I was insulted. I was asked if I was sick.  Skinny people have feelings too.  Why are only the chubby folks given consideration?  Who is the majority, after all? 
 
I never had an eating disorder.  I was just "skinny".. Oh BTW... being called "skinny" is NOT a compliment.  It is a derrogatory comment!   Of course, I should take it, and not call someone who is obese "fat", right? 
 
Nicole Ritchie made big news because her bones show.  But there are many over weight celebs who embrace their body image and there is no news camera there, questioning how unhealthy their fat is?  I am not saying one is better than the other- I am merely pointing out a double standard. 
 
Why can the blacks have a music award and a black Miss America, but the other nationalities can't?   Why are there music awards for blacks , and tv stations for the black and nothing for other nationalities?  Why does society think thses double-standards are acceptable??
 
I , like many who claim to be open minded, really are just as biased and closed minded as the rest of society. 
 
Before accusing others of bigotry.. look in the mirror.  
 
 


You are not comparing like with like.

Of course, any insult is unnecessary. However, attempting to draw a parallel between fatism and racism is well wide of the mark. The reason is as follows:

You mention "blacks", well, centuries of slavery and second class status makes racism against this particular skin colour a very sore point. It means that there are connotations which are far deeper than the spoken word. There is no history of fatism slavery. I imagine it is hurtful but, regardless of size, you are free to live your life in pretty much whichever way you choose - being over-weight/fat/obese is not akin to being a second class citizen in the eyes of wider society. On the other hand, being black (and other skin colours) has historically being deemed to represent second class status in certain parts of the world - including your country and mine. Thus, when you hurl racist insults you are perpetuating the imbalance in society that has existed for centuries. Calling someone fat, even though unpleasant and hurtful, is not wrapped up in a challenge to the right of the person to be considered equal.

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 4:32:32 PM   
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Valid point, NorthernGent. However I was merley pointing out that bigotry is not limited to one race, or sex, or weight class.  And being misjudged happens to everyone.  By mentioning the different (racially-inspired) awards I was merely trying to point out the fact that the basis of such awards is inherently discriminatory.  

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 6:25:50 PM   
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You mention "blacks", well, centuries of slavery and second class status makes racism against this particular skin colour a very sore point. It means that there are connotations which are far deeper than the spoken word. There is no history of fatism slavery. I imagine it is hurtful but, regardless of size, you are free to live your life in pretty much whichever way you choose - being over-weight/fat/obese is not akin to being a second class citizen in the eyes of wider society. On the other hand, being black (and other skin colours) has historically being deemed to represent second class status in certain parts of the world - including your country and mine. Thus, when you hurl racist insults you are perpetuating the imbalance in society that has existed for centuries. Calling someone fat, even though unpleasant and hurtful, is not wrapped up in a challenge to the right of the person to be considered equal.


No, being fat is not the same as being Black. Being morbidly obese is more akin to being a midget, or deaf, blind, or mentally retarded. it is a medical condition, and until we view morbid obesity this way as a society people that are morbidly obese will be ridiculed, the butt of cruel jokes, discriminated against, and treated like they have no right to exist. I think that people who tell morbidly obese people to "eat less" should be ashamed of themselves, in many cases that is like telling a paralyzed person to "stand up". It is a very complicated condition that those who live this way often feel powerless to stop.

I wish people would grow some compassion.

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 8:49:46 PM   
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Julia, I'm a wise-ass. Is that a "Medical Condition" too?

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 8:58:49 PM   
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Julia, I'm a wise-ass. Is that a "Medical Condition" too?


Beauty is skin deep popeye, and a lot of people need skinning. I would rather be morbidly obese than one of the people that ridicules the morbidly obese..... I do not think I could look myself in the mirror if I was cruel to people because of their body shape or their size. I have contempt for such people, and they are one of the few types I will talk shit to in the real world.


People who have no conscience and are cruel are termed "sociopaths", and that IS a personality disorder

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 9:04:22 PM   
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Oh god, more mental health rhetoric.

People, can we agree on a Collarme rule?  It's simple:

If you don't agree with/like/approve of something, just come out and say that you don't agree with/like/approve of something (and preferably state your reasons, too), but PA-LEAZE let's leave the "It's a personality disorder!" bullshit back in the garage.  The best way for someone to get me not to take them seriously is when they start arguing that something they don't like is symptomatic of mental disorder.  No one on earth, let alone the average Collarme user, understands the human brain well enough to be tossing off psychiatric diagnoses right and left the way you find on the boards here.

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 9:23:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Julia, I'm a wise-ass. Is that a "Medical Condition" too?


Beauty is skin deep popeye, and a lot of people need skinning. I would rather be morbidly obese than one of the people that ridicules the morbidly obese..... I do not think I could look myself in the mirror if I was cruel to people because of their body shape or their size. I have contempt for such people, and they are one of the few types I will talk shit to in the real world.


People who have no conscience and are cruel are termed "sociopaths", and that IS a personality disorder


Hello Julia! I only asked you a question and you went off on a rant. lol
What are you talking about there?

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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/1/2006 11:47:51 PM   
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Valid point, NorthernGent. However I was merley pointing out that bigotry is not limited to one race, or sex, or weight class.  And being misjudged happens to everyone.  By mentioning the different (racially-inspired) awards I was merely trying to point out the fact that the basis of such awards is inherently discriminatory.  


True enough in the sense that insults can be hurled in any direction. My point is/was that some insults have more far-reaching connotations than others.

I'm struggling to see why you consider awards for black Americans to be discriminatory. Black American music and popular culture has been exported to other parts of the world from at least the 1920s onwards (possibly before). You could argue that these awards are simply rewarding the role played by black Americans in making the US the most visible country on the planet.


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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/2/2006 12:00:21 AM   
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You mention "blacks", well, centuries of slavery and second class status makes racism against this particular skin colour a very sore point. It means that there are connotations which are far deeper than the spoken word. There is no history of fatism slavery. I imagine it is hurtful but, regardless of size, you are free to live your life in pretty much whichever way you choose - being over-weight/fat/obese is not akin to being a second class citizen in the eyes of wider society. On the other hand, being black (and other skin colours) has historically being deemed to represent second class status in certain parts of the world - including your country and mine. Thus, when you hurl racist insults you are perpetuating the imbalance in society that has existed for centuries. Calling someone fat, even though unpleasant and hurtful, is not wrapped up in a challenge to the right of the person to be considered equal.


No, being fat is not the same as being Black. Being morbidly obese is more akin to being a midget, or deaf, blind, or mentally retarded. it is a medical condition, and until we view morbid obesity this way as a society people that are morbidly obese will be ridiculed, the butt of cruel jokes, discriminated against, and treated like they have no right to exist. I think that people who tell morbidly obese people to "eat less" should be ashamed of themselves, in many cases that is like telling a paralyzed person to "stand up". It is a very complicated condition that those who live this way often feel powerless to stop.

I wish people would grow some compassion.


julia, I usually like your posts but this is one that I'm struggling with.

Are the obese in the US really treated like they have no right to exist?

The other point I'll make is that we are all aware of the limitations imposed by physical disability whereas, as a society, we are trying to get to grips with obesity and knowledge on the subject held by the wider public is limited. I personally know nothing about the causes and solutions of obesity and I would hazard a guess that I am representative of wider society. Thus, when someone says the solution is to "eat less" it is certainly thoughtless based on the probability that the person making such remarks knows little about obesity. However, I personally see this as a lack of knowledge and consideration rather than ridicule.




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RE: "Bigots" come in all sizes and colors - 11/2/2006 3:34:50 AM   
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Bodies come in all sizes, large and small.  Unfortunately, so do minds.

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