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imtempting -> Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:41:05 AM)

Now I am seeing this more and more on these boards. Alot of dommes are wanting every sub male to pretty much just agree with them.

Anyone who does not agree with them gets vindicted and flamed.

The dominantes ( the males ) do actually behave and treat sub females with respect and respects their comments. Even if they do disagree.

Where I am noticing the dommes are expecting the male subs to pretty much keep in line and not piss them off.

Out of most of tje people ive been annoying has been dommes. I dont recall many male dominates abusing me.

So I think the females domme of these boards should get real and stop acting like stuck up idiots.

That is not directed at every domme as many are fine but many others are stuck up...

Now atleast poeple wont need to hijack other threads and can just flame me in here..



Silvermoon -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:48:55 AM)

Personally, I think he's got a point. Most Dommes are over compensating anyhow. The ones who fight and deny the hardest, are usually the best examples.

Silver



gooddogbenji -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:50:47 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: imtempting

Now I am seeing this more and more on these boards. Alot of dommes are wanting every sub male to pretty much just agree with them.

Anyone who does not agree with them gets vindicted and flamed.

The dominantes ( the males ) do actually behave and treat sub females with respect and respects their comments. Even if they do disagree.

Where I am noticing the dommes are expecting the male subs to pretty much keep in line and not piss them off.

Out of most of tje people ive been annoying has been dommes. I dont recall many male dominates abusing me.

So I think the females domme of these boards should get real and stop acting like stuck up idiots.

That is not directed at every domme as many are fine but many others are stuck up...

Now atleast poeple wont need to hijack other threads and can just flame me in here..



A: Dominant, not dominate, is the noun you're looking for.

B: The, not tje, is an English word.

C: Generally people want to be agreed with in this world.

D:  Vindicted is not a word, to my knowledge, at least.

E:  Can we see an example of a comment, in your own words, or perhaps a link, to such a stuck up idiot?

F:  Is the mark I give this thread.

G:  If you don't like them the way they are, ignore them.

H:  Yours,


I:  benji



BDSM05478 -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:51:38 AM)

The problem with some Dommes, just like their male counterparts, is that they think that if you are a slave/sub, thay can treat you as if your THEIR slave/sub..... that all male slaves are just SO needy and since FemDoms are so few they can treat anyone, anyway they want with out our culture keeping them in check. Kinda how it's ok for a female teacher to have sex with her 15 yo student but not ok for a male teacher. On a side note, I thought flaming anyone on this site was against the rules? but i'm new so maybe i misunderstood..........



Morrigel -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:54:03 AM)

As soon as I see a climate on this forum which is not so extremely hostile to female dominants, I might consider your complaint valid.  At present, a casual survey of this forum reveals the following:

--about 3000 threads where male subs bitch about having to pay for sexual services from female dominants, with very little acknowledgement that this is due to their own lack of "relationship" potential to lifestyle dommes

--repeated comments from both male subs and male dominants that "female domination" does not exist

--repeated threads and comments in which the value of all female dominants is related directly to their looks, age, or physical fitness, with NO analogous threads in which female subs harshly and snottily critique the looks, age and physical fitness of male dominants

--3000 threads of male subs whining about how they can't EXACTLY what they want, exactly when they want it from a femme domme, which of course means that all femme dommes are "fake"

--and just about every thread in the "Ask a Mistress" forum being marred by some self-righteous man who defines himself as "submissive" charging in to flame, hijack, exert passive-aggressive force, or generally act like a complete asshat.

I think if the male dominants here or anywhere else in society were expected to put up with this level of complete BS in a social setting, they would react with FAR less tolerance and kindness than you see from the female dominants here.  But from my point of view, female dominants are NOT asking for too much respect.  We are demanding the same respect and deference that is given by female subs to male dominants with great regularity.  The fact that men like you are incapable of showing that respect says far more about you than it does about us.

--M 



gooddogbenji -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:54:06 AM)

Meh.  People flame all the time.  Then Mod 11 steps in and puts us all in our corners.

YAY Mod 11!

Yours,


benji



orfunboi -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:57:17 AM)

Wow, you created your own thread for the sole purpose of flaming you. Makes me think you enjoy the attention. Oh well, far be it from me to mess with someone elses kink. i know a few subs who enjoy being ridiculed in public, and it's all good. Not sure what you would get from doing it online, but ya gotta get it where ya can.

quote:

ORIGINAL: imtempting

Now I am seeing this more and more on these boards. Alot of dommes are wanting every sub male to pretty much just agree with them.

Anyone who does not agree with them gets vindicted and flamed.

The dominantes ( the males ) do actually behave and treat sub females with respect and respects their comments. Even if they do disagree.

Where I am noticing the dommes are expecting the male subs to pretty much keep in line and not piss them off.

Out of most of tje people ive been annoying has been dommes. I dont recall many male dominates abusing me.

So I think the females domme of these boards should get real and stop acting like stuck up idiots.

That is not directed at every domme as many are fine but many others are stuck up...

Now atleast poeple wont need to hijack other threads and can just flame me in here..




MisPandora -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 8:57:25 AM)

To the OP: I think I managed to get out of one of your other angst-ridden comments on the Mistress boards that your posts or comments have been being  deleted.  None of us have any control over that.  If you're upset about that sort of thing happening, take it to the mods.

I can't say I've noticed anyone sniping you in particular.  In fact, I've not seen any posts by you that have had any horrifying responses to them.  Perhaps an example that I can actually see someone treating you with the disdain that you perceive might be helpful to understand what you're seeing as "abusive."

*Edited for a horrible spelling error!*



gooddogbenji -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:01:17 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Morrigel
But from my point of view, female dominants are NOT asking for too much respect.  We are demanding the same respect and deference that is given by female subs to male dominants with great regularity.  The fact that men like you are incapable of showing that respect says far more about you than it does about us.



I don't respect someone because they checked a box on their profile, neither as a Dom or sub.  I respect someone when they show me they have earned it, and the list of people I respect on this forum, and in real life, is pretty damn short.

You ask for my respect, you'll notice that it's a flaming bag of dogshit on your porch.  You show me how to respect you, and you got it.

So why don't we all get over this "respect me for being a Dom" bullshit and go on with our lives.

Yours,


benji



gooddogbenji -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:02:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MisPandora

*Edited for a horrible spelling error!*


Did you misspell "I?"

Yours,


benji



MySweetSubmssive -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:04:47 AM)

I would very much like to know what "too much respect" consists of.  I find that I am concerned about the respect issue as well, though not in the same way as the OP.

Is it "too much respect" to ask for:

A lively, intelligent, original first letter of introduction
To be treated as well as a woman you would be interested in dating, which includes not being treated to all the intimate details of your fantasies immediately, and being seen as more than a conduit for your fetishes
Courtesy that extends beyond getting what you want (i.e. real courtesy)

I don't mind someone disagreeing with me within certain contexts (An intellectual conversation?  No. Discussing BDSM?  No.  Being unpleasant as a submissve?  Yes.).  I do mind rudeness.  I do mind submissives who get in touch who are willing to put out less effort than myself.  I do mind contacts from people who don't seem to have read what I'm looking for and plow ahead anyway.

Is that too much respect?

MSS



kc692 -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:05:22 AM)

I have seen your posts over the time you have been here, and am not sure what you are talking about.  There have been times I have seen you in agreement, and other times that others have not agreed with you, and all has been well and diplomatic.  I hope that others do not rise to the bait you have tried to 
surreptitiously put here, not sure if you are having a bad hair day, or are bored....but since this bores me, will hope that you have a better day.

Edited to add:  Thank you by the way for this post:  it will be helpful to see the subs that jump on this with you, another method yet to help us gauge if one in particular may be what we are looking for.  I am one of the lucky ones, I am here primarily to participate in the forums, but is still helpful to some as an additional point of reference.  Thanks again to the OP, lol, for helping the dommes out.



gooddogbenji -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:09:50 AM)

See, I get to be as disrespectful as I want, and demand all the respect I want, because I'm not a Domme.....

Yours,


benji



catize -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:11:01 AM)

One either respects another or not.  "Too much respect" is akin to being "a little bit pregnant". 



kc692 -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:12:32 AM)

LOL, benji, that is everyone's right, thanks for the laugh on the outline earlier in the thread!!![:D]



Lordandmaster -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:15:17 AM)

Oh come on.  If a domme is rough with you, be rough back.  Dommes love it when men give them a run for their money.



MsSimone -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:16:34 AM)

M,
Hello from Chicago! I agree with your well phrased reply. It does seem lately as if a very negative vocalization  towards female domination is occurring here on CM. Perhaps it is  due to those very querulous male subs who feel a proper way to approach female dominants is :

1."u r sexy! can we chat?"
2. " I am seeking a sex buddy, care to fill the position?
3. " I like your profile. want to be your slave"
4. "Hey ,you are hot! I love to suck feet"

YES THESE ARE ACTUAL EXAMPLES !

Would a male dominant feel this is an appropriate letter of introduction? NO!
But when we do not respond gushingly ,glowingly, Oh Thank you for the lovely note, now I will allow you to worship me orally, we are bitches!
It gets really old fast.

What is so hard about writing a non form letter with a few details to an individual Mistress you seek to have contact with?
What is so hard about reading a profile FULLY before you respond?

Just my Opinion,

Mistress Simone of Chicago



PoeticPrincess -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:18:52 AM)

Imtempting: Contradiction in terms, love. You are not at all tempting from where I am standing.

Your profile seems to be flimsy and lacking: are you masquerading as another in order to set up conflict?

There's a useful book called Eats Shoots and Leaves. Whether you read it or follow the instructions, it will prove terribly helpful.
If I have been unfair, please tell me in what way.



Morrigel -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:19:59 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji
So why don't we all get over this "respect me for being a Dom" bullshit and go on with our lives.


*rolls her eyes*  Imagine my surprise.  Here's the exact attitude I was talking about.

For one thing--courtesy to others is not just a gift you give to them if they "earn" it.  It is something you display in your dealings with the world because you respect yourself.  If your default attitude toward others is rude and snotty, you are not showing any kind of strength; you are displaying a weakness of character and poor upbringing--or poor training, if you have served a dominant before.

As to whether you should be respectful to dommes because they are dommes?  Yes and no.  BDSM is about roles.  You can choose to respect other individual human beings or not, based on how you judge their behavior--just by way of example, I am sure there are many female subs on this site who think many of the male doms who post here are complete fucking idiots or jerks, and who would run a mile rather than bend over for any of them.

Nonetheless, you do not see these women starting thread after thread to bitch and whine about all male doms in general, nor do you see them charging in to be passive-aggressive dumbshits to all male doms in thread after thread.  And I would suggest that the reason these self-defined submissive women don't make asses of themselves in public quite as much as male subs do, is probably that they understand the role they are seeking.

Although they may not respect individual men, they DO respect the role of Master.  And they are unwilling to turn off ALL male dominants on this forum by being snotty little bitches in public, every day of the week, and especially by making the kind of sweeping generalizations that will repulse EVERY male dom within hearing.

Regardless, I see that you don't bother to dispute the trends I have described.  The fact is, male submissives are incredibly obnoxious posters here on Collarme, and they display rudeness and a grotesque sense of entitlement which are far more rare in female submissives.

People always get what they give in life.  If male dominants here really are able to be more courteous to female subs, it is probably because they tend to be treated more courteously.

--M



gooddogbenji -> RE: Dommes wanting too much respect (10/28/2006 9:20:26 AM)

Hate to be overly disrespectful and get flamed, but I think the OP was referring to the boards, not the other side.

Now, can I be your slave?

What if I say I like your ass?

Why did you slap me?

Yours,


benji



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