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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 7:01:31 PM   
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...is just plain limousine trash living on other people's merit and other people's money and using snobbery to confuse that reality.

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."  - John Kerry

Foxer


WTF here?

This was just for the purpose of bashing another human being?

Could you tend to a life that put you in the public eye like he did?  Would you have the balls for that?

I'm a Republican...devout (although I didn't, and couldn't vote for George)...but, I guess I'm just missing something here....

Did you write this post solely for the purpose of bashing someone that you're incapable of filling the shoes of?

Was that it?

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 7:09:17 PM   
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LTRsubNW,

quote:

This was just for the purpose of bashing another human being?



One good bash deserves another.  Or how to bash one fool who bashes an entire group of other human beings.

Foxer

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 7:15:16 PM   
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One good bash deserves another.  Or how to bash one fool who bashes an entire group of other human beings.

Foxer


If you're going to start a thread for every "fool who bashes an entire group of other human beings", collarme is going to need a bigger server.

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 7:18:49 PM   
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justheather,

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What I said does not in any way discount or nullify your experience.
Do you not have the capacity to accept that your experience is not identical to every other person in the armed forces?



 
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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 7:20:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

LTRsubNW,

quote:

This was just for the purpose of bashing another human being?



One good bash deserves another.  Or how to bash one fool who bashes an entire group of other human beings.

Foxer


When you serve in wartime and put your ass on the line for me I will take you somewhat seriously, since you haven't served one day with your ass in live combat you are just a chicken hawk like your leader.

I am not a Kerry fan, there were not nose plugs strong enough to keep the stench from my nose when I voted for him, but the stench coming from GWs name on the same ballot was even worse. At least Kerry served his tours in Vietnam, all you do is pounce on someone for misspeaking, which Bush has done so many times they have entire libraries filled with his idiocy.


Now all I have to say for this post is Mission Accomplished. Ooops, wrong, nothing has been accomplished in Iraq but a complete boondoggle. I will be a very happy camper when GW has to wipe his ass off the floor when the democrats sweep congress next week, and if they don't.. no biggie, I am an independent that does not think much of either party anyways



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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 7:48:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

quote:

ORIGINAL: Foxer55

LTRsubNW,

quote:

This was just for the purpose of bashing another human being?



One good bash deserves another.  Or how to bash one fool who bashes an entire group of other human beings.

Foxer


When you serve in wartime and put your ass on the line for me I will take you somewhat seriously, since you haven't served one day with your ass in live combat you are just a chicken hawk like your leader.

I am not a Kerry fan, there were not nose plugs strong enough to keep the stench from my nose when I voted for him, but the stench coming from GWs name on the same ballot was even worse. At least Kerry served his tours in Vietnam, all you do is pounce on someone for misspeaking, which Bush has done so many times they have entire libraries filled with his idiocy.


Now all I have to say for this post is Mission Accomplished. Ooops, wrong, nothing has been accomplished in Iraq but a complete boondoggle. I will be a very happy camper when GW has to wipe his ass off the floor when the democrats sweep congress next week, and if they don't.. no biggie, I am an independent that does not think much of either party anyways




I personally think it would be a fitting end for Monkeyboy to be dragged before Congress and tried for violating constitutional law and being forced to do time in the Big House.

Happily, he is too stupid to resign and let Shotgun pardon him before he is indicted.

Gotta love the self-worshipping idiots of this world.

Sinergy

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:00:08 PM   
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I personally think that Kerry did not misspeak.  I believe that he intentionally slammed our soldiers and it was directed at them because so many of them are conservative Republicans who believe in the mission.

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:02:37 PM   
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Bush does alot worse by sending them into a war based on lies.

Much as I dislike kerry.

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:03:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

...is just plain limousine trash living on other people's merit and other people's money and using snobbery to confuse that reality.

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."  - John Kerry

Foxer


Foxer:
Is there som,e part of the Kerry statement that is not true?
thompson

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:06:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Foxer55

mnottertail,

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...and this sets him apart in our esteem from other politicians in what specific way?


His utterly pretentious arrogance.  He slaps people in the face with his insolence.

Foxer




Foxer:
You seem to be saying that the truth is insolent and arrogant...are you sure that is what you ment?
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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:12:29 PM   
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I think the election frenzy has once again caused the Republicans to jump on any little word they can and blow it out of proportion.  I took his comment as the reality that kids that don't finish school seek out the military as an option to support themselves.   Some people are born rich.some are born poor.  We've had one of those idiots governing us for 8 years.. you think people would get used to them.

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:15:31 PM   
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Kerry's words are the best evidence yet of an Illuminati organized political system. How else can you explain a leading Democrat providing the best "October Surprise"?

Let's see, he's got the American Legion (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/31/204-10312006.html), Democratic Congressman (http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2619383&page=1), mothers of soldiers from Boston (http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/10204420/detail.html), and every political pundit in the US pointing to the Democratic party as the party who believes you must be stupid to be in the military.

And what a GREAT time for him to be assertive! (http://apnews.myway.com/article/20061031/D8L3SB884.html) Blaming the White House for his stupidity is as amazing as him pointing to President Bush's college records when it turns out he had lower scores. Amazing. How hard is it to do what he and his party want the President to do; say he made a mistake? Of course now he's trying to explain. Calling the White House full of "policial hacks". Well, some of us, even if we disagree maintain respect for the office and what it represents. Disrespect of that nature gets more "old folk" pissed and out of the home. Basically the feathers are out of the pillow and scattered. Good luck trying to repack them in the case.

What was a bad idea for a joke is now mobilizing millions to vote against change. Unfortunately most of the voting population won't ever know that was the case.

What about poor Phil Angelides? He may get less votes in the general election than he got in the primary. By my philosophy of voting anyone in office out, I have to vote for him! I guess it will be me, his wife, and him. But I hear Arnold's working on his wife.

Another 4 years of Arnold in CA.

Good news for the Democrats, John Kerry's 2008 re-run is officially over.


Mercnbeth:
Could you give me the source of the college grades you quoted for these two loosers.
I find it hard to believe that any one is dumber than dubya..but then anything is possible.
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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:21:14 PM   
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    It was a stupid comment and his refusal to apologize just makes it worse. 

    I also resent the "limosine trash" remark. 


WyrdRich:
What part of Kerrys "stupid" remark did you find to be untrue?
Just because we have a picture of you in a limosine does not mean we think it is yours.
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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:22:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: thompsonx
I find it hard to believe that any one is dumber than dubya..but then anything is possible.
thompson


I don't know, man.
A few weeks ago, I heard a clip on NPR where he was reading a statement regarding his No Child Left Behind initiatives and he pronounced "Ad-min-EEEEEEE-stray-TOHRS" like he was literally sounding it out as he read.
I did not know whether to laugh or cry.


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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 8:57:46 PM   
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justheather,
 
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Too bad it's also often-times true.
How many men came back in body bags from Vietnam with PhD's in their pockets?
The military sends recruiters to shopping malls and places where kids with nothing but time on their hands hang out. They entice them with the idea of "money for college"...and then turn around and send them off to a foreign land to die for a questionable cause.
For some kids, the military offers the only way out of a dead-end, minimum wage situation.
Don't think for a second that military recruiters don't use that to their advantage. They are salesmen who just happen to work for the armed forces.


 
Not.  I spent several years getting very up close and personal with nuclear weapons after going to school for 6 months, courtesy U.S. Army.  While I wasn't being shot at, those several years up close and tinkering with fissile material and a half ton of high explosives almost daily were not risk free in any context.  But that 6 months and several years also became part of a college degree which was paid for courtesy U.S. taxpayers.  The experience not only launched me into a splendid career but remains on my resume today and is readily recognized for its value.
 
Foxer     


Foxer

From your age and what you have said it would appear that you were in the army in about 1962.  You state that you went to some sort of NBC school for six months.  Now I was never in the army so I cannot speak with any authority on your position in the army.  I can however, from my experience in the military, tell you that the military does not send nuclear specialists into a combat zone.  So I am a little curious as to where you were when you were being shot at.
I also know from my experience in the military that the fuse is never with the device and it takes a minnimum of three officers one of whom must be field grade  to unite the device and the fuse.  So it would appear that the greatest danger a technician working on a device would face would be on the order of slip and fall not radioactivity or explosion.
Had you taken your degree instead of joining the army you would have been defered for the time you were in college and then you would have been defered because of your technical expertese or put into a techinal (non combat)position with the army...which is the point that Kerry was making....those that do the bleeding and dying are the most poorly educated.
Now since you have told us that you are a college educated man perhaps you might tell us why we are in Iraq and why you think it is a smart thing to join the military(for less than minimum wage) and go to Iraq so that the rich can get richer.

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 9:01:49 PM   
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Ill let Henry speak about the current administration....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 9:10:56 PM   
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justheather,

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What I said does not in any way discount or nullify your experience.
Do you not have the capacity to accept that your experience is not identical to every other person in the armed forces?



 
One thing about the service - every member gets equal treatment one way or the other.  Some get lucky while some get un-lucky but all under the same circumstances of chance.
 
Foxer 


Foxer:
When I was in the military, officers were treated differently than enlisted men.  Staff NCO's were treated differently than NCO's.  NCO's were treated differently than the ranks.  I do not know where you got your perceptions of equality in the military but it does not exist and never has.

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 9:26:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

Ill let Henry speak about the current administration....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6waWS0Y3Ubc


Henry speaks the truth
thompson

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 10:02:13 PM   
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Mercnbeth:
Could you give me the source of the college grades you quoted for these two losers.
I find it hard to believe that any one is dumber than dubya..but then anything is possible.
thompson


thompsonx,
Here ya go:
quote:

In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year.
Kerry authorizes release of his full military and medical records. A7.
Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school. He received four D's in his freshman year out of 10 courses, but improved his average in later years.



http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/06/07/yale_grades_portray_kerry_as_a_lackluster_student/

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RE: John Kerry... - 10/31/2006 10:04:10 PM   
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People, the election is over.  Why are we still talking about John Kerry?

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