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Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 3:43:42 PM   
knkywch


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Hello all:

I'm curious to know folks' experiences coming into the realms of erotic power exchange. How did you cross into this area of the world?

Was it online like bulletin boards, chat rooms, and so forth?
Was it through experimentation with a lover or perhaps encountering a lover who was into it already?
Was it through "alternative" personal ads and seeking to date someone like-minded in this arena?
Was it through one of the many BDSM-oriented organizations that exist like Society of Janus, Black Rose, Eulenspiegel Society (TES), Triskeli, or a lesser-known regional or local group?
Was it through finding a local area munch?
Did you seek out a local dungeon or BDSM-themed club (like Power Exchange in SF)?
Some other route?

As for me, at first I dabbled in answering a personal ad, then placing my own. Finding so many people who were interested in this sort of thing blew my mind. As it is with so many of us before we cross into association with the BDSM world, I just thought there was something wrong with me. <grin> Little did I know!
While the dabbling was exciting in writing and even over the phone, the face-to-face left little to be desired. Then, about 15 years ago while attending a local women's spirituality group, I overheard a kink-oriented conversation that drew me in... from that conversation, within a few weeks, I'd attended an orientation to join Society of Janus! That opened major doors. In fact, the first person I ever played with was at that very orientation. And I thought the telephone scenarios were hot! Holy moly! I;ll take a compatible face-to-face interaction above phone and writing any day. So for me, I consider the ads to be sort of the doorstep toward entering the BDSM world and my actual entrance would be joining SoJ and experiencing one-on-one, face-to-face play (in a gorgeous private dungeon, no less...).

What about you?

Cheers!
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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 3:49:10 PM   
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I came into this lifestyle without knowing it. My first Dom was my first sexual experience at the age of 15. I didn't know then what a Dom was, what a sub was or even what BDSM was. I just thought that what we did was what everyone must do. I was really shocked when I dated my first(and last) "vanilla". That is when I thought I was doing something wrong. I could not figure out why he wasn't taking control, spanking me, restraining me......I thought it meant he really wasn't interested. I will never forget the look on his face when I tried to ask him. LOL!!!!

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 4:31:32 PM   
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Even as a kid and teen I always wanted to tie people up and thought spanking and such was need for discipline no matter how old a person was. I grew up with vampire movies and stories. It was also what I dressed up for on Halloween since I was 5. I always had sadistic ideas and was at first shocked when I found out that there where people willing to try them. I'm glad the life style exist.




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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 4:38:29 PM   
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Yeah, but how did you actually get INTO it, FangsNFeet? Through what mechanism did you make contact with another?

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 4:40:53 PM   
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Erin, did you see the movie, Secretary? Your encounter with Mr. Vanilla reminds me of the scene where Lee is with Peter and she lays face down and keeps putting his hand on her ass... and he keeps removing his hand. <sigh> So sad.

You found someone who played with you at age 15. Lucky!

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 5:36:41 PM   
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I was introduced to it by a dom online.

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 5:42:36 PM   
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Wow, I had almost the same experience erin, I was just a little younger. Looking back it's funny, but it was very confusing at the time.

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 5:44:35 PM   
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quote:

Erin, did you see the movie, Secretary? Your encounter with Mr. Vanilla reminds me of the scene where Lee is with Peter and she lays face down and keeps putting his hand on her ass... and he keeps removing his hand. <sigh> So sad.


omg that is just how it was too......I would keep bending over hoping he would get the hint....lol....the funnier thing is that I married that man.....it didn't last for obvious reasons! He tried to oblige me and I tried to forget my needs but all of that only goes so far. It was kind of like we were both wearing the wrong shoes, it just didn't fit.

As far as my being 15.....well it was the 70's, Free Love and all ya know. Besides, I guess I wasn't exactly your average 15 year old.

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 6:01:50 PM   
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During HS everyone thought my idea where scary and evil. They all just wanted sex and Marriage after Graduation. They didn't like me talking about knives and duct tape during sex. I didn't even know where the ideas originated from.

However, I went to college. Some how my ears caught on to people who talked about whips and chains as well as the phrase "Freak Sex."
I then started dateing and found myself being allowed to tie people up and doing naughty things to them. A few kinky friends I made also took me to BDSM clubs in Houston TX. I also started doing research on the internet and read books. So all and all, after leaving BFE Woodville Texas, I found myself in the real world.

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 6:06:52 PM   
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i was first introduced to it online (yes i know, groan all ya want lol). i'm just now getting into it r/t and it's great, so much more fulfilling than the online stuff. i'm planning on going to some munches and things of that sort soon. wish me luck :)

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 6:51:25 PM   
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Oh liltxsubby, no groaning here. I think during the last 5ish years, a LOT more people have connected up via the magical ethers of the internet. I'm not surprised at your answer. And I think it is one of the safest ways to tiptoe in -- as opposed to some more reckless behavior that some folks dive or stumble into.

Good luck on the munches. My experience with them is that some are more structured and focused on making sure newcomers feel safe and welcomed while others are more loose and sometimes end up with little clique subgroups that can take a while for newcomers to enter. Seems to me that folks who feel stifled by the structure usually gravitate toward a subgroup and a regular loose munch. Of course sometimes there are the "fresh meat" oriented folks who frequent the structured munches as there is a better opportunity of seeing, being seen, meeting, and perhaps connecting with a newcomer. AND, munches are a good place to grok that others in the community are real people with real lives and jobs and usually a fairly "normal" presence (as opposed to the whole leather getup, studded collar, whip on the belt loop pose... which can be nice in the right environment <wink>).

My two cents...
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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/2/2005 7:11:44 PM   
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Hello,

I've had aspects of BDSM in my head since early childhood, but really never sought it out until around 1990 when the internet was new and newsgroups were really popular. I used to lurk in the bondage and femdom related groups, and also found stories and pics online. When I really became serious about exploring more of it, I participated in online chatrooms and groups, tending to use those chatrooms that had real life couples who lived the lifestyle. I also went to several D/s based websites for information.

Now that I am able to seek out real life, I utilize this site and also belong to a local group of Dommes that meets monthly for socialization and learning.

Be well,
Julie

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 4:39:56 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FangsNfeet

During HS everyone thought my idea where scary and evil. They all just wanted sex and Marriage after Graduation. They didn't like me talking about knives and duct tape during sex. I didn't even know where the ideas originated from.


Damn! I was looking for a boy like you in high school!

In all seriousness, kinkiness is a reoccuring theme from age 7 on for me. It manifested itself in many ways...

At age 7, a girl friend and I used to play "you were a bad girl and you need a spanking game". Different versions of that game where played with other friends. I even remember tying a girl up when I was 14 and keeping her like that for hours, torturing her by tickling, pinching and biting her. My first candle wax play was around the same time too where we would see how close of a drop we could take. A little edgeplayer was born!

I learned very young how to manipulate boys, and sometimes girls, to do what I wanted by flirting, some humiliation games, etc.

One of my first adult boyfriends was very Dom with sadistic tendencies. I loved the kinky games we played. The next guy I dated was not so Dom and when I noticed he wasn't so much into controlling me, I took control and was amazed how wonderful that turned out.

When I was 24 (7 years ago), I went to a day of sexuality workshops (it was my minor at the undergrad level) and I went to a BDSM workshop. I met a girl, she was the lead singer of a punk band, she was switch and hot and from that moment on, there was no denying I wanted to know everything about this lifestyle.

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 4:40:28 AM   
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quote:

I don't think I'm gay. I don't think I'm straight. I think I'm just slutty. Where's MY parade? -Margaret Cho-


I love this!!

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 5:14:51 AM   
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Hi everyone,

I knew long before I ever found BDSM that there was something 'differant' about my sex fantasies. I read the 'bodice ripping' books....you know the ones. And with my bf at the time, I'd make little side bar jokes about things like that, which he never really picked up on or took seriously.

In the 10 years I was with that man, we did 2 kinky things. One he found mildly interesting (his comment was 'I saw cartoons when I came) and one he found so abborant that he was physically ill after. Neither one did he want to build on or explore again and after that kind of rejection, I stopped trying to introduce kinky things into our sex life. And the funny thing was, this was a man who didn't have sexual hang ups...he wanted it (and usually got it) at least twice a day under normal circumstances frequently in positions I didn't realize was humanly possible ~grin~

Once that relationship dissolved, I found myself in a gorean chat room on-line. As someone who'd always enjoyed role playing, I of course enjoyed the gorean atmosphere that was presented, but wasn't someone who took Gore very seriously. From there, I started poking around the web to try to find some links about BDSM.

One day, as I was skipping around from site to site, I happened to find the PEP (People Exchanging Power) website and as I looked it over, I saw a Mistress there who was from Buffalo, and had her phone number on there. I decided to call her up, and see if she could help me figure out if I was A) crazy and B)if not, what the hell to do next ~grin~

Mistress Kali Ward was an absolute Gem and a total Lifesaver for me. Had she not been willing to listen to me and be nice, I would have run away so fast from BDSM my head would have spun. She talked to me for almost an hour, gave me resources and a contact name for someone who was a younger woman like myself in my local Kink organization. I emailed the woman and she got right back to me, and she and her Master befriended me and Mentored me through my first year of being in the scene. We became good friends, and that submissive remains one of my closest and dearest friends.

My entry into the Scene was absolutely wonderful. But I couldn't have done that if I wasn't willing to take a risk and reach out. In the continuum of human behavior, I pretty much fall in the 'nice Catholic girl' range, so of course, the visions of sickness and debauchery that I thought would be an every day occurance in the lifestyle were at the core of my fear about coming into the real scene. As I stated on another thread recently, I have never, in the 7 years I've been out in the scene here where I live, ever compromised my morals or values. But I was fortunate early on to have the guidance of people who cared about me to learn, grow and mature in the scene.

I was talking with a friend last night and we were saying that really, this community is relatively small, that those of us who are 'out' are really about '6 degrees of separation' from each other. If you are someone who's looking to connect to your local scene, there's probably someone traipsing around here who knows someone who knows someone who can be a contact for you.

I wouldn't be happy if I wasn't willing to take the risk and stretch myself and be in the scene. In fact, I'd probably be unhappy and more than a little crazy. If nothing else, being out in the scene has made it possible for me to talk about this part of my life, and have others who are open to it, rather than being alone and afraid.

All the best to you in your journies,

Lily

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 7:51:17 AM   
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Hello,

First, let Me say that it is nice to talk and share with others who felt such a natural desire to lead or serve, and to listen to their experiences. Now, as for Me, I also knew at a young age that I had a Dom persona. I remember telling a classmate in high school about My feelings one day. Somehow the subject had come up. Of course, they went off and told others, who promptly ridiculed Me for being a 'freak', I think that was the term that was used...heh. Anyway, at that impressionable age, I put up walls and just kept My thoughts to Myself for quite some time. When I was around 20, I had My first experience with an older woman who was interested in bondage. Just the basics, though. Tied to bed, blindfolded, etc. But it was a start


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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 8:57:09 AM   
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After I surfed through what online info I could find and spent enough time chatting with folks to understand that this was something that wasn't limited to bikers and fetishists I headed to the local munch. I hooked up with my first submissive after chatting with her on alt which is also where I found my current girl. I've made a lot of friends through the local community but never found a compatible match through a munch.
Timothy

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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 11:34:42 AM   
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Lady Angelika:

That is one of my favorite quotes. Margaret Cho is one of my heros. There are other quotes that I adore as well:

"The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off." (Gloria Steinem)
"Not only is life a bitch, it has puppies." (writer, Adrienne Gusoff)

oh and this one just kills me...

"To simulate the birth experience, take one car jack, insert into rectum, pump to maximum height and replace with jack hammer. And that would be a good birth." (writer, Kathy Lette)

(I'm thinking, "Hey, this would make for an intense and desirable SCENE for some folks I know!")

Thanks for posting your share to the thread!

kw


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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 11:45:00 AM   
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Lily, you are so LUCKY! I am delighted that you connected up with helpful, caring people when you were exploring in the beginning. Yours is one of the more joyful stories.

Gawd, I loved those bodice rippers! Er, excuse me... historical romance novels. <grin> My mother read them... AND the Gor books. That's how I found them. I don't know about her, but I remember even then (starting around 10 years old) that I knew bad writing when I saw it. I'd skim past the boring stuff and devour the interesting power dynamic scenes (yes, despite the awful dialogue). Ah, nothing like a happy little stroll down memory lane.

Thanks!
kw


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RE: Your intro: community vs. one-on-one - 2/3/2005 11:50:07 AM   
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"Not only is life a bitch, it has puppies." (writer, Adrienne Gusoff)


LMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!

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