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male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 7:55:14 AM   
Sekhemet


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Status: offline 		I thought I'd throw this one out because for whatever reason I have NEVER seen it discussed.  We have seen the differences between slaves and subs, the difference in a Fem Dom and a Male Dom discussed, and yet no one has asked what you as bottoms perceive to be the differences in or between male and female bottoms - Just thought I'd ask as it's being pointedly overlooked.
So here's your chance to define yourself, without outside interferrence - what separates, and is the difference between male and female bottoms?  And don't tell Me - none.  If there is a difference in Domination from Male to Female Tops and from Female to Male Dominance; then there IS a difference on the bottoms side too - find it - define it - post it.
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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:08:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

If there is a difference in Domination from Male to Female Tops and from Female to Male Dominance; then there IS a difference on the bottoms side too - find it - define it - post it.

I'm not certain there is a difference between Male/Female tops/doms aside from the standard deviation you run across when dealing with different people.  I don't think their gender has much to do with it.

If you're so sure there is a difference, why don't you share with the rest of the class what you think it is?

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:23:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

I thought I'd throw this one out because for whatever reason I have NEVER seen it discussed.  We have seen the differences between slaves and subs, the difference in a Fem Dom and a Male Dom discussed, and yet no one has asked what you as bottoms perceive to be the differences in or between male and female bottoms - Just thought I'd ask as it's being pointedly overlooked.
So here's your chance to define yourself, without outside interferrence - what separates, and is the difference between male and female bottoms?  And don't tell Me - none.  If there is a difference in Domination from Male to Female Tops and from Female to Male Dominance; then there IS a difference on the bottoms side too - find it - define it - post it.
Thanks.
XxoxX


I don't think there is a difference outside of the physical.  And that can often be overcome with "props" such as strapons, etc. if need be.  I think you hogtie a male the same as you would a female.  Same with gags, same with humiliation.  And so on.  We crawl the same, beg the same.
If you're talking about preferences for what one likes mentally...well that's just subjective.  There's no way to tell if male submissives are more geared to liking something like foot worship more than females since for every male that does, one could logistically find a female that also enjoys it.
Submitting is submitting, whether male or female.
Oh...men pee standing up.  There's a difference.

Sorry for the rambling.  It is Monday, after all.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:24:13 AM   
Celeste43


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Status: offline 		I'm not bi so I wouldn't be with a Domme. But going on what I read the biggest difference seems to be sexual. Male doms have a strong interest in having sexual control and service from their subs, fem dommes talk much more about nonsexual service.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:24:45 AM   
Lordandmaster


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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

I thought I'd throw this one out because for whatever reason I have NEVER seen it discussed.  We have seen the differences between slaves and subs, the difference in a Fem Dom and a Male Dom discussed, and yet no one has asked what you as bottoms perceive to be the differences in or between male and female bottoms - Just thought I'd ask as it's being pointedly overlooked.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:26:37 AM   
Sekhemet


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Status: offline 		testing testing ... why is this saying I can't post replies to My Own threads ... testing testing ...
*sighs*

But incase this DOES post - why is everyone then looking for a girl and the boys are ... mostly on the whole ignored.  If there was no difference no one would care - a slave is a slave is a slave; and slave would be accepted as a viable gender within the community on the whole.  As this is not happening and the deliniation remains I'd hope there would be mentionable logic and reason as to why it is so many apparently prefer female bottoms - to males.  What's the difference here?
I'm sure Others with r/l experience handling both, have also made some deductions and postulations and this WOULD be the forum by which to share that.  If you have noted none, then that would be your answer, wouldn't it?
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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:28:28 AM   
Aileen68


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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:28:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd have to go with genitals. 

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:30:20 AM   
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I'd have to go with genitals. 


Where are you planning on taking them?  Dinner and a movie?

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:31:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

I'd have to go with genitals. 


Where are you planning on taking them?  Dinner and a movie?



Haha Aileen.   You're naughty! 

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:33:33 AM   
Aileen68


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ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

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ORIGINAL: Aileen68

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ORIGINAL: joyinslavery

I'd have to go with genitals. 


Where are you planning on taking them?  Dinner and a movie?



Haha Aileen.   You're naughty! 


So I've been told. 

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:34:09 AM   
Sekhemet


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Status: offline 		genitals is an obvious and a given ... Perhaps some prefer the added ... input locations?  Thats what I'm trying to discern here.

The question is the difference in male and female BOTTOMS (mindset, attitudes, presentation, sexuality etc) here kids - not Tops.  But - Why is everyone looking for a girl slave ... ?  I mean there HAS to be a reason for it or no one would care, right? 
Even here we have ask a Master & ask a Mistress - but the bottoms are all mashed together in one group, not males and females or subs and slaves even just one big ol' lump ... so ... WHY are you lumped together as a group, but cherry picked individually with females being the ones most often chosen??  No one else finds this mentally amusing?  Or has given it any thought??
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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:36:05 AM   
Lordandmaster


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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

WHY are you lumped together as a group, but cherry picked individually with females being the ones most often chosen??

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:37:08 AM   
Aileen68


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ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

genitals is an obvious and a given ... Perhaps some prefer the added ... input locations?  Thats what I'm trying to discern here.

The question is the difference in male and female BOTTOMS (mindset, attitudes, presentation, sexuality etc) here kids - not Tops.  But - Why is everyone looking for a girl slave ... ?  I mean there HAS to be a reason for it or no one would care, right? 
Even here we have ask a Master & ask a Mistress - but the bottoms are all mashed together in one group, not males and females or subs and slaves even just one big ol' lump ... so ... WHY are you lumped together as a group, but cherry picked individually with females being the ones most often chosen??  No one else finds this mentally amusing?  Or has given it any thought??
XxoxX


Maybe you should be directing this question to bisexual tops and asking them why they pick one sex over another. 
Straight tops will always pick the opposite sex.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:46:38 AM   
Sekhemet


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Status: offline 		Nice way to "represent the community"
wow ... and people wonder why the community is taken for a joke.
sad.

You ask a serious and honest questing and you get back immaturity.

The START of a serious answer might look like this: Women are raised fully differently than males, from dress and appearance, to manners and disposition, to care and assisting others - girls are raised differently than boys, and few parents would be able to argue this.  In simple play a male is taught to destroy what he creates while the female is taught to keep everything prisitne.  Dirty and broken dolls go in the trash, and if you take off and then lose the dolls clothes you will know it - but you have to break the lego house to make the next one, and if you lose 20 pieces of that no one cares, it's expected, and even replaced!  A skipping rope missing handles goes in the trash, but a frayed ball will still be kicked and bounced around.  A boy with the knees ripped out of his pants is "just being a boy," while a girl with mud all over her is chastised, and humiliated. 
And this My friends is just the tip of the psychological iceburg; however I see there is little room for ACTUAL discussion here and so will take the postualtion ... elsewhere that I don't disturb your less than mature mentallity.

Thanks for the eye opener.
Suddenly a LOT makes sense ...
XxoxX

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:48:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think there are some differences.

-One is that males have traditionally held the power in our society. A Femme Domme turns that upside down.
- Again, social mores and male power would lend me to believe (and i surely could be off base here) that Dommes must be tougher, stricter to maintain respect from a male in this androcentic world.
- Third, the witholding of sex appears common in a F/m dynamic. The old boys will be boys.. "oh no you won't baby ;)" controls the boys, while double standards on sex, and male priviledge and girls who like sex are labeled sinners & sluts (in a neg. way) get sub girls f'cked and defiled as much as a male Dom can and will manage.

JMHO.
fawne
PS hey! let's say we open a SM club or rowdy dyke bar(meant in the best way, ladies)  and call it 'Sinners & Sluts'!?

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:49:23 AM   
Aileen68


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Status: offline 		That's stereotypical male/female bullshit.

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:49:36 AM   
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That's why they are always redecorating........

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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:51:02 AM   
Sekhemet


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sekhemet

genitals is an obvious and a given ... Perhaps some prefer the added ... input locations?  Thats what I'm trying to discern here.

The question is the difference in male and female BOTTOMS (mindset, attitudes, presentation, sexuality etc) here kids - not Tops.  But - Why is everyone looking for a girl slave ... ?  I mean there HAS to be a reason for it or no one would care, right? 
Even here we have ask a Master & ask a Mistress - but the bottoms are all mashed together in one group, not males and females or subs and slaves even just one big ol' lump ... so ... WHY are you lumped together as a group, but cherry picked individually with females being the ones most often chosen??  No one else finds this mentally amusing?  Or has given it any thought??
XxoxX


Maybe you should be directing this question to bisexual tops and asking them why they pick one sex over another. 
Straight tops will always pick the opposite sex.


Actually I'm straight and prefer to play with females but have sex with males - and ONLY those who are slave or bottom, those who are not bottoms I have little to no interest in on the whole and as a rule.  I'm a bottom lover, and I'm happy to admit it, and can define the interests.  I'm sure I'm not the only one in that pool either, but unless things are looked at and discussed and thought of ... Its just - not looked at in depth, and is thus assumed.
My personal oddity this way has helped Me to look at the question Myself, I'd just thought SOMEONE else must have looked at this as well - I mean its only sensible.  Isn't it?
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RE: male/female bottoms - differences? - 11/6/2006 8:51:38 AM   
Archer


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Status: offline 		Well there are some real differences betwen genders that make them a biot different to play with corporal.
#1 male skin on average has fewer nerve endings than female skin, this is one reason low end pain tollerance tends to be higher with men than with women. They actually feel less pain from the identicle strike. Argue with the medical findings if you want to.
On the other end of the spectrum though is the fact that women can take more pain in the long run than men again on average.
Something about the natural development comming with the potential for childbirth. LOL

Socially speaking on average men close off their feelings and emotions (in the US at least) more than women.
On average men or more visual and women rely on a wider sensory range.
Again there is some medical differences that come into play.
Women have on average more smell receptor nerves in the nose than men do, women on average have better color vision, I do not recall the difference if any in auditory reception.

Male socialization has a greater tendancy towards cross dressing as part of submission, I know very ew women who find cross dressing a fetish as a bottom. I ould contend that you could dress most female bottoms in male drag and they would find it fun and rather silly but it would not have the same effect that dressing the same number of male bottoms in female drag.

Overall I would also contend that t is more likely that a male bottom will have an objective fetish (shoes, hair, panties, etc) [NOTE speaking of actual or near fetishistic power of an object not just a strong like for them]

Please note big time that these are GENERAL TRENDS and not ment to cover every single case out there.

The biggest differences would be in what and how you access the goal, ie humiliation, feminization works well with men but masculinization seems to be all but non existant as a source of humiliation for women.



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