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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 1:23:57 PM   
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One thing that is confusing - Congress passed the resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq.  Congress gets their own intelligence reports from the CIA, DIA, NSC, etc. in which to make their decisions.



Why is this confusing?  Both houses of Congress were controlled by the Republican Party and these houses are on record as working the least number of days, passing the fewest number of laws, overseeing the smallest number of overseeable things, etc.

Bush' lackeys manage the organizations which provide reports by which Congress makes it's decisions.  Provide Congress faulty reports, Congress makes faulty decisions.  You have heard the term "Garbage In, Garbage Out," right?

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If they impeach Bush, wouldn't a whole bunch of the members of Congress (in both parties) have to be impeached as well?



You would have to prove they intended to violate the law.

Unfortunately, there is all sorts of evidence which suggest that Bush et al deliberately doctored evidence and used it to promote his war.  That goes to
intent.

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Before you say, "Bush gave them faulty intelligence" - isn't it their responsibility to review and verify it before making decisions?



True, and since the Republicans controlled congress and could do what they wanted to, then I agree they might be equally culpable for the war crimes.

But, as a Congressman being given a classified report about BLAH from the CIA, one does not have the staff, mission, or connections to go back and verify it.  That is the job of the CIA, to investigate.  The job of Congress is to take the information presented by the investigators and make decisions accordingly.

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You can vilify Bush all you want - some of you just really hate him, but he couldn't invade Iraq all by his lonesome.  On the otherhand, if you do think Bush was able to hoodwink all of Congress, then how can he be as dumb as alot of people are saying he is?



Have you bothered to read anything about the events leading up to the run up to war in Iraq?

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I haven't seen any proof that he actually broke any laws in regards to Iraq (and Internet Blogs don't count) - besides, even Bush is innocent until proven guilty (you can't complain about keeping civil rights without extending them to Bush as well)



This is true.  I suspect since a large amount of it was classified, you probably will not ever see conclusive proof where he broke laws in regards to Iraq.

I would suggest a worthwhile starting point would be to go to Rolling Stone's web site and search for articles about Iraq.  While you may consider it a liberal rag, one of the guiding principles behind that magazine was an editorial decision when it started to not change anything written and submitted to be published.

I imagine that on doing a search on the internet you will find thousands of sites (some even reputable) which talk about items such as "yellow cake," "Niger," "Aluminum Tubing," "refining nuclear weapons," "Weapons of Mass Destruction," "Gassing the kurds," "Lie detector AND Iraqi source," etc.  Additionally, some of the sites you find will cross-reference other sites and provide you with more information.

Additionally, I would suggest you go back and review the reasons Bush gave for the run up to war, our continued presence for the war over the years, etc., and notice how these change over time as each one is proven false.

Enjoy your path to knowledge.

Sinergy


So, you basically are saying that EVERY single person in the government is a Bush lackey and that no one that ever had any evidence contrary to what the Congress saw in their intelligence assessment reports would have snuck the documents to the Dems in Congress, the news media, etc?

The Repubs had 15 extra seats in Congress and 5 in the Senate - that's not major control (sure, they have the committee chairs, but the ranking Dem on that committee isn't a show piece)  The Senate still has the filibuster that the Dems used multiple times (except for this particular issue I guess)

You're just a Repub hater - that's all I ever read in your posts.  The Dems are just as culpable for alot of the decisions made in Iraq, the wiretapping, etc.  Everything is a conspiracy from the right in your eyes.

Go back 15 years when Clinton was taking illegal campaign contributions from foreign governments, his legal counsel is found dead in a park, his Attorney General refusing to investigate multiple scandals related to his dealings with friends, business ventures, etc.

The Dems are no better than the Repubs, they have as many scandals as Repubs,  the Vietnam fiasco was a Dem mess, they are as self-serving as the Repubs.

All I see is we traded one bunch of liars and cheats for another set.  Being a one-sided partisan will never help in fixing the problems with this country - and the problems stem from both parties.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 1:28:01 PM   
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I don't really care if Bush is impeached or not. What I DO care about is rolling back all the policies that he implemented that have done major harm to the US.  #1: ban torture. #2 reinstate the legal right of hebeus corpus to all terror suspects. #3 dismantle the black prisons. #4 severely limit the use of phone and computer tapping on Americans. #5 roll back the tax cuts on the top 2% income earners. #6 get the troops the fucking equipment they need!  I want to be proud of this country again. Bush has made it into some dark, fearful, paranoid nation out of "V for Vendetta." Time to put things right...er...center... again.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 1:34:30 PM   
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Im glad Bill got a little...better than all the closetted homo's in the GOP.

What is the ignorant thing about most Bush lovers is the fact that Bill did MUCH WORSE than.."have sex
with that woman" in passing Bush SR.'s Wet-dream NAFTA/GATT.

But..Bush signed onto UNESCO.....something even Billy Boy wouldn't even touch so
its goes to show you that left vs. right really don't mean shit when BOTH
are out to destroy this country for globalist rule.


Those darn "homos", always getting in the way.
 
Oh, you still don't get to decide who's a Texan.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 1:55:24 PM   
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I don't really care if Bush is impeached or not. What I DO care about is rolling back all the policies that he implemented that have done major harm to the US.  #1: ban torture. #2 reinstate the legal right of hebeus corpus to all terror suspects. #3 dismantle the black prisons. #4 severely limit the use of phone and computer tapping on Americans. #5 roll back the tax cuts on the top 2% income earners. #6 get the troops the fucking equipment they need!  I want to be proud of this country again. Bush has made it into some dark, fearful, paranoid nation out of "V for Vendetta." Time to put things right...er...center... again.


I don't agree with #2 - I don't think terrorists have any rights, I believe them to be sub-human (I've thought this for 20+ years), they our cowards and they shouldn't be given the same rights as people from our country.

They kill innocent women and children and then say "it's God's will" - it's horse crap - they deserve slow and painful death.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:06:37 PM   
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Fascinating response, ToGiveDivine.

I am going to take it as moot that you actually read my posts.

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So, you basically are saying that EVERY single person in the government is a Bush lackey and that no one that ever had any evidence contrary to what the Congress saw in their intelligence assessment reports would have snuck the documents to the Dems in Congress, the news media, etc?



I am not saying that at all.

Given the example that stuff like this was snuck over to the Dems In Congress, what exactly would you expect them to do with it?  The Republican leadership kept them out of important committees, refused to file any sort of subpeonas or appoint investigation committees, etc.

Are you stating that you never once heard any news anywhere about anybody questioning any evidence provided by the Bush administration?

For months there was a big uproar about weapons of mass destruction, or more importantly, the complete lack of them, on every major news channel in this country, and twice everywhere else.  You must have missed that.

For months the Bush administration was claiming that Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein were in cahoots.  This was disproven repeatedly.  You must have missed that as well.

Did the Republican controlled congress do anything about this?  Call up the President and say "Can we pretty please have a look at your source materials?"
No.  They did none of that whole Congressional oversight thing which is what they are elected to go do.

The Department of Homeland Security, brought into being to keep America safe from threats, failed miserably to either protect us from, or deal with the results from the threat of standing water and high winds.

The defining characteristic of the last 6 years in Congress is a complete lack of them doing anything except run up huge bills that future generations get to pay for.

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The Repubs had 15 extra seats in Congress and 5 in the Senate - that's not major control (sure, they have the committee chairs, but the ranking Dem on that committee isn't a show piece)  The Senate still has the filibuster that the Dems used multiple times (except for this particular issue I guess)



What would you suggest they filibuster?

If you are going to say the Iraq vote, please consider it in context.  It was perceived by most Congressional leaders that attempting to stand against the tide of American response to 9/11 by going to war in Iraq would have been political suicide.

I am not saying that is right or wrong.  Simply pointing out that that is what happened.

For those keeping score, if enough people in Congress voted to end a filibuster, it would be ended.

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You're just a Repub hater - that's all I ever read in your posts.  The Dems are just as culpable for alot of the decisions made in Iraq, the wiretapping, etc.  Everything is a conspiracy from the right in your eyes.



Thank you for that lovely analysis of what you believe.  Considering that earlier in your post you stated I believed that every person in Government is a Bush lackey, I am not sure how much credence I am willing to give to either your beliefs or comprehension of what I write.

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Go back 15 years when Clinton was taking illegal campaign contributions from foreign governments, his legal counsel is found dead in a park, his Attorney General refusing to investigate multiple scandals related to his dealings with friends, business ventures, etc.



Yeah, back then I couldnt stand Clinton either. 

Clinton was alleged to do take illegal campaign contributions from foreign governments.  Here is the summary report on campaign finance in 1996.  The conclusion found by the investigating committee is that the political process in this country is so rife with examples where this happens that attempting to go after any one person made no sense.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/stories/demsummary.htm#conc

True, his legal counsel was found dead in the park of a single gunshot wound to his head.  Gun next to him with his own fingerprints on them.  No witnesses.  No evidence of multiple shooters.  While it is more fun to consider conspiracy theories, martians, and Santa Claus, I want to remind you that sometimes people commit suicide.

Occams Razor:  one should not increase, beyond what is necessary, the number of entities required to explain anything.

To whit, the simplest explanation is usually correct.

And as far as the attorney general investigating him is concerned, I would love to hear about all the investigations of Monkeyboy by his attorney generals.

The Republican Congress didnt mind spending millions of dollars investigating Clinton up one side and down the other, and only found irregularities about a blow job.

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The Dems are no better than the Repubs, they have as many scandals as Repubs, 
the Vietnam fiasco was a Dem mess, they are as self-serving as the Repubs.



Actually, the previous record for number of scandals during a Presidency was held by the Reagan administration, which beat out the Nixon administration.  The jury is still out on the W. administration, but I suspect when/if Congress actually does start investigating things, Monkeyboy's administration will trounce all of them for total number of scandals.

The three administrations I have just named were all Republicans.

For those keeping score, that would be:

Top Scandal Ridden Administrations in United States History

1) Bush Administration (Republican) 

(http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archives/2006/01/liberate_americ.html)

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/042006J.shtml

2)  Reagan Administration  (Republican)

3)  Nixon Administration  (Republican)

But one thing which is a lot different the last 6 years has been a persistent unwillingness on the part of Congress, the News Media, Dittoheads, and vast numbers of people in the American public to want to actually face the reality of the situation.

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All I see is we traded one bunch of liars and cheats for another set.  Being a one-sided partisan will never help in fixing the problems with this country - and the problems stem from both parties.



There is a question of degree.

Clinton lied about a blow job, but also ushered in the largest economic expansion in US history.  Built a world class military force.  Turned around FEMA to be an organization which would handle things effectively.  All the while being the subject of hundreds of expensive investigations by a Republican congress trying diligently to unseat him.

I say he earned a blow job or two.

Monkeyboy came in, turned a whopping trade surplus into an enormous deficit.  Borrowed as much money as all previous presidents combined in order to finance his ruinous policies.  Supported a level of corporate greed and corruption which boggles the imagination.  And was never investigated by Congress about anything.

And yet some people still consider Clinton to be a much worse President than the Simian In Chief.

I personally have no emotional attachment as to whether you decide to take the Blue Pill and wake up in your own bed believing what you want to believe.

Sinergy


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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:09:40 PM   
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#2 reinstate the legal right of hebeus corpus to all terror suspects. 



I don't agree with #2 - I don't think terrorists have any rights, I believe them to be sub-human (I've thought this for 20+ years), they our cowards and they shouldn't be given the same rights as people from our country.

They kill innocent women and children and then say "it's God's will" - it's horse crap - they deserve slow and painful death.


A terrorist is not a terrorist until they have been found guilty of terrorism.

You could be arrested and thrown in prison to rot as a terrorist. Habeas corpus is your protection.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:12:11 PM   
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Im glad Bill got a little...better than all the closetted homo's in the GOP.

What is the ignorant thing about most Bush lovers is the fact that Bill did MUCH WORSE than.."have sex
with that woman" in passing Bush SR.'s Wet-dream NAFTA/GATT.

But..Bush signed onto UNESCO.....something even Billy Boy wouldn't even touch so
its goes to show you that left vs. right really don't mean shit when BOTH
are out to destroy this country for globalist rule.


Those darn "homos", always getting in the way.

Oh, you still don't get to decide who's a Texan.


Well if the GOP are going to preach so-called "morals"...lets not be a HYPOCRITE about it.

"Do as we say not as we do".

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:28:06 PM   
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I am pratical about impeachment. Do I think Bush did some truly bad shit yes. Between the war, torture and the signing statements the odds are he has done impeachable things enough to get forced out of office. My problem is where does this get us if the Dems try? First with two years to go, if they were to succeed, what would it do. Second, they do not have the votes in the Senate to get it done.

Third and to me the most important, it will just make the Dems look petty and super partisin. How does this help them keep Congress and win the Presidency in 2008?

I understand the lust of wanting justice or the very least the actual truth uncovered but I think the country is far better off of the Dems holding Bush's feet to the fire when he pulls the same old shit, which he will do, and this time they can expose it when it happens and do not have to worry about looking petty. Move forward and never dwell on the past.

Clinton was impeached, did the haters get justice? Was his reputation really damaged? Personally I do not think so, everyone knew what he was about. Bush is going to go down as a failure and morally absent. Impeachment is not needed for that judgment.



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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:28:44 PM   
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Well if the GOP are going to preach so-called "morals"...lets not be a HYPOCRITE about it.

"Do as we say not as we do".


I agree, hypocrisy is bad.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:30:16 PM   
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Third and to me the most important, it will just make the Dems look petty and super partisin. How does this help them keep Congress and win the Presidency in 2008?


It won't help them, it'll make the majority of the people in this country moan and shake their heads in frustration.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:35:08 PM   
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Well I think the whole bush impeachement issues is moot.   Pelosi said in her yahoo video that it is off the table and will not come back to it.

As to polls,   I never believe those.   They are to easily manipulated to obtain the answer that you want.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:36:42 PM   
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Well I think the whole bush impeachement issues is moot. Pelosi said in her yahoo video that it is off the table and will not come back to it.

As to polls, I never believe those. They are to easily manipulated to obtain the answer that you want.


Goes to show you where Pelosi's loyalties lie.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 2:49:59 PM   
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[Goes to show you where Pelosi's loyalties lie.



I don't know   you gotta tell me.   I know that when I was in Cali the wasn't all that liked by the reps.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 11:25:10 PM   
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Pelosi is in full support of Bush's Iraq war..as well as all of his police state agenda legislation.

Im not buying it.

Bad Bet.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 11:27:57 PM   
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I would do a search on the general accounting office and bush and see what comes up in the way of hiding information from the American people. At times over the last few years only the general accounting office actually asked for any sort of documents on a wide array of things.. it might truly be enlightening to you.. and the general accounting office is not partisan.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 11:39:44 PM   
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 I  am pratical about impeachment. Do I think Bush did some truly bad shit yes. Between the war, torture and the signing statements the odds are he has done impeachable things enough to get forced out of office. My problem is where does this get us if the Dems try?


I am not practical, I tend to think that people that do truly evil things should be brought to justice. As far as where that leaves the democrats, well it does not matter where they are, what matters is that we hold the Bush junta responsible for their crimes. I believe that is the only way we can begin to mend the truly immoral wrong we have done the people of Iraq. I put that above the future of a bunch of career politicians

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I understand the lust of wanting justice or the very least the actual truth uncovered but I think the country is far better off of the Dems holding Bush's feet to the fire when he pulls the same old shit, which he will do, and this time they can expose it when it happens and do not have to worry about looking petty. Move forward and never dwell on the past.


It is not a lust, it is a feeling of complete and utter sadness that this man has murdered hundreds of 1000s and made us more hated around the world then we ever have been. If what he has done is exposed and people think it is petty, well I would put it up there with thinking that trying Hitler's cronies for their crime as a nothing but a petty vendetta for political gain... some actions are too heinous for us to dismiss for political gain, and if Foley's associates would have put the law above politics they might not have lost so big this last election... just a thought about political expediency.. nasty things grow in the dark and we need to shine a little light on Bush.

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Clinton was impeached, did the haters get justice? Was his reputation really damaged? Personally I do not think so, everyone knew what he was about. Bush is going to go down as a failure and morally absent. Impeachment is not needed for that judgment.




Impeachment trials may just tie his hands from starting more wars.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/10/2006 11:52:37 PM   
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Well Stated JuliaOceania (do it to Julia..not to me!!!!! Orwell:1984)

I do admit..this goes way beyond Bush.

Think of how many innocent people and families,mothers, dads, children, aunts,uncles grandmothers, who have lost their lives in this
"war on terrorism" (Phony war for global empire) and those who WILL die and be totally disfigured from exposure to DEPLETED URANIUM..that totally F*ks with your DNA......
which iraq is now a vast wasteland of....which the dust storms kick up and get into people even more...or even the VETERANS for that matter who are coming back
home sick.

No problem...

its "All in their heads".


put em' on PROZAC and anti-depressants.

that will fix those PESKY Veterans problems.

mabye eliminate those NIGHTMARES they have from doing what they were brainwashed and pavlovian conditioned to do too.

after all.....when they get back they can look forward to 9.00 an hour "jobs" our "hot economy" have for them.

Oh.... that BURNING SEMEN...don't worry about it.....

PTSD can be cured by a "medication fix" to keep them quiet and dumb and happy.




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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/11/2006 12:36:21 AM   
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Think of how many innocent people and families,mothers, dads, children, aunts,uncles grandmothers, who have lost their lives in this
"war on terrorism" (Phony war for global empire) and those who WILL die and be totally disfigured from exposure to DEPLETED URANIUM..
which iraq is now a vast wasteland of....which the dust storms kick up and get into people even more...or even the VETERANS for that matter who are coming back
home sick.

No problem...

its "All in their heads".

put em' on PROZAC and anti-depressants.



One night I was driving home from being mean to women and getting kicked in the head, and Loveline (KROQ 106.7) had Dr. Drew and the other guy talking about Gulf War Syndrome.

So I did a little research on it and it turns out they are correct.

When a soldier is inducted s/he is given a shot with a cocktail of immunizations.  One of these is an anti-malarial drug (name escapes me) which is medically contraindicated in anybody with a history of mental illness.

While it does not happen to everybody with a history of mental illness, the results of this particular vaccination being given to a person with a history of mental illness are oddly similar to the problems described by individuals afflicted by Gulf War Syndrome.

Which is not to say I support uranium blowing around and killing people, but I am not sure mental illness is one of the fall-outs from exposure to radioactive material.

I tend to believe that Gulf War Syndrome is something our government, in their infinite medical knowledge and wisdom, gave our soldiers. 

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/11/2006 6:33:43 AM   
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I think it's the right call on Pelosi's part. Nothing would make me happier than to see Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld in prison for the rest of their lives, and I thoroughly believe they deserve it.

However, for the past twelve years the Republicans have done their best to turn Congress into a partisan hellhole. As much as I hate to say it, it would do the country better if the Democrats showed they were interested more in bipartisanship than vengeance.

What they are doing, is restarting all the investigative committees the Republicans had closed down, shining light on all the things the Bushies had wanted tucked away. I think that's exactly the right approach.

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RE: 86% say Bush should be Impeached - 11/11/2006 7:15:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Manawyddan

I think it's the right call on Pelosi's part. Nothing would make me happier than to see Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld in prison for the rest of their lives, and I thoroughly believe they deserve it.

However, for the past twelve years the Republicans have done their best to turn Congress into a partisan hellhole. As much as I hate to say it, it would do the country better if the Democrats showed they were interested more in bipartisanship than vengeance.

What they are doing, is restarting all the investigative committees the Republicans had closed down, shining light on all the things the Bushies had wanted tucked away. I think that's exactly the right approach.


Did you ever think that if they include the republicans in their plans to clean the White House that some of them remaining might just help because they want no part of this crime either? It is not a partisan issue. War crimes is not a partisan issue, and if they let Bush and company off the hook that would be a further crime

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