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orfunboi -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 1:24:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Denny17 waht do you say about scientist who proved women are in more way superior to men as being smarter using more of their brains, enduring pain better, having more stamina, bodies being better built to handle stress, getting less illmess, better memory etc and taking over areas like grad school and in politics and work force. Sexually emotionally and spirutually they aer not even comparable to us. What makes a person better morally or ethically is a different story. What I fear is their sexuality the most. We are ruled by female sexuality all our lives if you aint gay. From the begining of our lives and until we die no man ever fully commands a woman. We are pussy-whipped and we know it". Do you have any links to this info?

Morrigel -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 3:17:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve Let's say women did rule society and declare men as "secondary"....you mean to tell me there wouldn't be viscious resistance? I really doubt most males would tolerate it ...actually. People, as a general rule, will tolerate everything and anything they are trained to tolerate from birth. Sorry, but there is nothing "natural" about male domination or even male equality with women. It is a cultural strategy like any other, and male dominance is particular is a strategy designed to produce massive overpopulation and demographic pressure on nearby competitors--basically you breed your enemies to death, usually while you're also busy killing them in other more violent ways. If you want to actually know how female social dominance works in REAL life, rather than in Internet wank fantasies, the best thing to do is to study societies which are matriarchal. The geisha society in Japan is an excellent example. The traditions of the Minangkabau ethnic group are another good source of information. Once you actually bother to educate yourself, you quickly realize there is nothing "scary" at all about female supremacy. Nor is the idea essentially more divisive than any other notion as to how a complex society can be organized. Considerably better than most, in fact! The men of these female-dominated societies are not mistreated on ANY scale that even remotely resembles the mistreatment of women in many nations around the world today. Given that the world is now closing in on 6.5 billion people, I think the days of male domination on this planet may be rapidly coming to a close regardless of all the wailing and whining. Egalitarian and female-dominated societies are much, much better at management of limited resources, as a rule, because the women in these societies are not considered chattel who have no worth unless they breed themselves to death. Patriarchy in general appears to be a locust strategy, meant to produce both men and women whose lives are essentially worthless in and of themselves--the society is turned into an engine of war, and the people in it are only cogs in that machinery. --M

sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 3:25:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Morrigel If you want to actually know how female social dominance works in REAL life, rather than in Internet wank fantasies, the best thing to do is to study societies which are matriarchal. The geisha society in Japan is an excellent example. The traditions of the Minangkabau ethnic group are another good source of information. Once you actually bother to educate yourself, you quickly realize there is nothing "scary" at all about female supremacy. Nor is the idea essentially more divisive than any other notion as to how a complex society can be organized. Considerably better than most, in fact! The men of these female-dominated societies are not mistreated on ANY scale that even remotely resembles the mistreatment of women in many nations around the world today. Excuse me...but before you insult me one more time....you have NO idea what I have researched and where my interests lie. I have studied divination and the ancient "goddess" traditions among the druids and the Celts before and after the megalithic age. So....please go "bother to educate" yourself princess.

LadyEllen -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 3:43:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve quote: ORIGINAL: Morrigel If you want to actually know how female social dominance works in REAL life, rather than in Internet wank fantasies, the best thing to do is to study societies which are matriarchal. The geisha society in Japan is an excellent example. The traditions of the Minangkabau ethnic group are another good source of information. Once you actually bother to educate yourself, you quickly realize there is nothing "scary" at all about female supremacy. Nor is the idea essentially more divisive than any other notion as to how a complex society can be organized. Considerably better than most, in fact! The men of these female-dominated societies are not mistreated on ANY scale that even remotely resembles the mistreatment of women in many nations around the world today. Excuse me...but before you insult me one more time....you have NO idea what I have researched and where my interests lie. I have studied divination and the ancient "goddess" traditions among the druids and the Celts before and after the megalithic age. So....please go "bother to educate" yourself princess. Before we all go off on one, we should consider that "you" in the context of Morrigel's post was perhaps misused, and "one" might have been a better choice, despite the common usage of "you" in place of "one". E

DiannaVesta -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 3:45:03 PM)
ut oh what the hell?

sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 3:49:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyEllen Before we all go off on one, we should consider that "you" in the context of Morrigel's post was perhaps misused, and "one" might have been a better choice, despite the common usage of "you" in place of "one". E Like hell it was misused.

Denny17 -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:00:15 PM)
read them in here they're in some of these: Statistical Abstract of the United States: The National Data Book - US Census Bureau Why Men Are the Way They Are: The Male-Female Dynamic –Warren Farrell The Beast Within: Why Men Are Violent- Neil Boyd The World's Women 1995: Trends and Statistics (Social Statistics and Indicators) - United Nations The Reproduction of Mothering: Psychoanalysis and the Sociology of Gender Nancy Chodorow Bodies That Matter: On the Discursive Limits of Sex -Judith Butler Masculinity Studies and Feminist Theory Judith Gardiner Sex on the Brain: The Biological Differences Between Men and Women Deb Blum Femininities, Masculinities, Sexualities: Freud and Beyond Nancy Chodorow Toward an Anthropology of Women Rayna Reiter Gender and power: Society, the person, and sexual politics RW Connell The Myth of Male Power The Way We Really Are: Coming to Terms With America's Changing Families –Stephanie Coontz Ideology and Utopia: An Introduction to the SOCIOLOGY (740) of Knowledge Karl Mannheim Women's Figures: An Illustrated Guide to the Economic Progress of Women in America

sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:10:29 PM)
Yup.....and there are just as many books promoting either... "why women are the way they are" "Why males are superior" "Male studies" ...compiled by pro-masc. authors. Female supremacy.....male supremacy. One in the same. Pure bullshit.

Morrigel -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:11:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve Excuse me...but before you insult me one more time....you have NO idea what I have researched and where my interests lie. I have studied divination and the ancient "goddess" traditions among the druids and the Celts before and after the megalithic age. So....please go "bother to educate" yourself princess. I'm actually pretty clear about what you know about this subject--which is next to nothing--and what you don't--which is nearly everything. Please feel free to wow me by citing the sources that you've studied on the "goddess traditions of the druids and Celts before and after the megalithic age", though. I'm particularly interested in the sources that examine the traditions of Celts that existed before the megalithic age. Considering that the earliest dates of the La Tene culture post-date the European megaliths by at least a thousand years. shakes her head Sorry, but people really need to do at least SOME of their "research" on Goddess worship in places other than the Llewellyn New Age mysticism catalog, and some of their "research" on matriarchy and female supremacy in places other than porn sites for super-masochistic men. --M

MissyRane -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:15:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Morrigel I'm actually pretty clear about what you know about this subject--which is next to nothing--and what you don't--which is nearly everything. Please feel free to wow me by citing the sources that you've studied on the "goddess traditions of the druids and Celts before and after the megalithic age", though. I'm particularly interested in the sources that examine the traditions of Celts that existed before the megalithic age. Considering that the earliest dates of the La Tene culture post-date the European megaliths by at least a thousand years. shakes her head Sorry, but people really need to do at least SOME of their "research" on Goddess worship in places other than the Llewellyn New Age mysticism catalog, and some of their "research" on matriarchy and female supremacy in places other than porn sites for super-masochistic men. --M hear hear[:)] but what I can't possibly understand is how you can actually bother keeping this up sissify just let it go pwwwwwwweaaaaaaaaaaase

sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:20:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Morrigel I'm actually pretty clear about what you know about this subject--which is next to nothing--and what you don't--which is nearly everything. You know what Morrigel...I don't care how arrogant you are to assume what I know about and what I don't. quote: Please feel free to wow me by citing the sources that you've studied on the "goddess traditions of the druids and Celts before and after the megalithic age", though. I'm particularly interested in the sources that examine the traditions of Celts that existed before the megalithic age. Considering that the earliest dates of the La Tene culture post-date the European megaliths by at least a thousand years. Here's one from a random net sweep on the subject. http://home.earthlink.net/~thelink7/LINKA.HTML If you want to get INTO DETAIL on this subject...arrangements can be made. quote: shakes her head Sorry, but people really need to do at least SOME of their "research" on Goddess worship in places other than the Llewellyn New Age mysticism catalog, and some of their "research" on matriarchy and female supremacy in places other than porn sites for super-masochistic men. No...I think you just like to dennigrate and insult males at every opportunity you can get..as your posts cleary show.

sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:22:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissyRane but what I can't possibly understand is how you can actually bother keeping this up sissify just let it go pwwwwwwweaaaaaaaaaaase No little girl..I can talk about whatever i wish. Untill your dream comes true and we live in a Gyno-fascist society.

MissyRane -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:27:17 PM)
[>:] do you actually get something out of calling me "little girl"? you on a powertrip or something?

sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:30:22 PM)
No...not on a powertrip. You call yourself Missy inyour profile.. Noun 1. missymissy - a young woman; "a young lady of 18" fille, girl, miss, young lady, young woman

MissyRane -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:42:16 PM)
I give up trying to reply..this site has ruined my reply THREE TIMES[:'(][:'(] stupid timeout something BLAH grrrr but what I've been trying to say is that Missy is also a NAME and I'm NOT 18

LaTigresse -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 4:48:11 PM)
In the words of one helluva woman....my grandma....Mercy Sakes!!!

LaTigresse -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 5:02:25 PM)
ACTually, speaking of my grandma made me think about the women that shaped my life and made me believe in the amazing "specialness" of some women. I realized that none of them ever needed to be rude or offensive, call names, or even rarely raise their voice to command respect. Everyone jumped when they politely asked, knowing there was no real choice in the matter, it was just that they were raised to be ladies even though they were strong independent women. I don't think that some mannerly ladylike behaviour is a bad thing at all. One of the women on our forums constantly amazes me with her restraint, manners, intelligence, and wit.....LadyHugs. Granted, I know each of us has our own style, our own personality. But I know that those I have the most respect for, rarely degrade themselves in silly arguing or name calling be they female or male. These are the people that are supreme in my eyes.

SweetDommes -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 5:26:49 PM)
I don't think it's the fact that you do speak your mind, I think it's more in how and where you decide to state it - meaning as obnoxiously as you can, wherever you can. It's not always appropriate to stand up on a platform, yelling out your opinions as often as you can just because you can. You stated your opinion, and often, on this thread already - we get it ... you can stop now. You stated at some point that you were only here to see if there are Dommes who feel the same way that you do about Female Supremacy - you have seen that there are some who do, but you are still here, being negative and argumentative. If you were truly only looking to see if there are Dommes who agree with you on this topic, you should have left the thread pages ago ... but you are still here. That says, to me, that you are just looking to stir up trouble, which you have done quite a good job of, so why don't you just go bask in the glory of the feathers you have ruffled and move on? Personally, I don't like to put people on ignore - there are only a few who are on my ignore list ... but you have just joined their ranks. Not because of your opinions, but the fact that you are so negative, and I have enough negativity in my life already, thank you. I hope that you can find some peace and happiness ... because you surely aren't able to let others have any.

sissifytoserve -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 5:37:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SweetDommes I don't think it's the fact that you do speak your mind, I think it's more in how and where you decide to state it - meaning as obnoxiously as you can, wherever you can. It's not always appropriate to stand up on a platform, yelling out your opinions as often as you can just because you can. You stated your opinion, and often, on this thread already - we get it ... you can stop now. You call my words obnoxious...so be it. I don't see it that way. quote: You stated at some point that you were only here to see if there are Dommes who feel the same way that you do about Female Supremacy - you have seen that there are some who do, but you are still here, being negative and argumentative. If you were truly only looking to see if there are Dommes who agree with you on this topic, you should have left the thread pages ago ... but you are still here. That says, to me, that you are just looking to stir up trouble, which you have done quite a good job of, so why don't you just go bask in the glory of the feathers you have ruffled and move on? I have not left because other articles and writings were posted that i felt a need to comment on....thats what threads are for quote: Personally, I don't like to put people on ignore - there are only a few who are on my ignore list ... but you have just joined their ranks. Not because of your opinions, but the fact that you are so negative, and I have enough negativity in my life already, thank you. I hope that you can find some peace and happiness ... because you surely aren't able to let others have any. Go right ahead....do your worst. If you wish to live in a one-seasoned world...that is your choice. All states of mind are important...ignoring something won't make it go away.

Mikal -> RE: Elise Sutton Interviews ME - Female Supremacy (11/18/2006 5:49:09 PM)
just shakes head in bemusement 16 pages, and this thread is still going... lol. Outside of humour/random stupidity, this has to be close to a record... I haven't read anything except pages 15 & 16, so I have nothing of use to add [:D]. Sissify, do you like cookies? If so, what kind?

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