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Termyn8or -> RE: RANT, a big one ! Feel free to join in. (11/13/2006 12:56:00 PM)
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Wow!
Folks, remember I said it was a rant. And there is no connection between thimerosal and smoking, I brought that up to illustrate how with one hand they allow one thing, even FORCE it on people and the other hand makes a mountain out of a molehill. OK smoke is more than a molehill for some.
Glad to hear they removed most of the thimerosal, thanks for the enlightenment. Not in the health care industry I am not always up on the latest in the field.
Now I simply can't respond to 43 things at once, but all in all I'm glad I didn't offend too many people. I'm glad that everyone kept the flames on low. There was no way I could say it all without the original post spilling into multiple pages.
The list of things that kill us slowly, but are not only allowed but promoted, is extensive. Hydrogenated oils, table salt with the anti-clumping agent which makes it harmful, white sugar, a plethora of dangerous drugs like SSRIs that are given to any child who simply needs a spanking. I DID NOT say a beating.
That was a rant back there, my composure is a bit different now. It's a bit about the trends society has taken in the last few decades. In the past, when a Parent was about to spank a child they might say something like "this is going to hurt me more than it is you", and I truly believe that most of the time they were truthful. But now we have a segment of the population that are so out of control that they will act out of anger and beat their kids. Not in all cases, but I think it is alot more prevalent today. Punishment time came, it was explained to the child and a determined number of swats or whatever was administered. Now it is just SMACK !
Now I reallly doubt this applies to anyone on this board, but your kids are going to have to coexist with their kids. Your kids will probably go to school right ? You've heard of Columbine right ? Well the shooters at Columbine were taking SSRIs. Surprise surprise. Some countries have banned SSRIs for children, perhaps they're onto something ?
For the unenlightened SSRI stands for selective seratonin reuptake inhibitor. The family of drugs include Luvox, Zoloft and Prozac among others. Seratonin is a hormone in the brain that has an effect on learniing and is one of the things greatly affected by LSD. How do we know this ? Your tax dollars invented LSD. Lysergic acid amide is derived from morning glory seeds, and converted to the way more powerful lysergic acid di-ethyl amide. When you buy morning glory seeds they have a coating which prevents it's use, so if you wanted to make some LSD you have to wait until you get your own seeds from the plants. What were our tax dollars doing funding such research ?
I am not too happy about it to say the least. They really didn't try to invent one of the most mind bending chemicals for recreational use, it was to be an interrogation tool. That's back when they didn't just resort to torture. (I'm dropping that like it is on fire, it is a whole different rant)
I think ,,,, perhaps I am not the best at expressing myself. A good piece of my post was to say that things are not put into perspective. I didn't seem to get that across. There are so many things killing us now that to list them all would shut the whole website down. The servers would crash. I can't list it all, but suffice it to say, the people running the world are not stupid. They took sodium flouride that they couldn't find any use for and put it in the water knowing it's not good for us. It is a waste product. Depleted uranium is also a waste product that would be very expensive to dispose of, but somebody figured out how to make a weapon out of it. Again, dropping it for now, that is a whole different rant.
Television runs where I work, it is detrimental to my mind. Let's not go there :-), but I see an amazing array of drugs being touted, and in some cases no mention is made of what it is supposed to cure. They say " ask your doctor is killyastine is right for you, by the way, if you know anyone who is pregnant, or might become pregnant, has a history of anything should not take killyastine". Side effects include liver damage blindness and death in rare cases. They still haven't said a damn thing about what the drug is supposed to cure,,,err,,, treat. Remember it is not medicine anymore, it is medication.
Let's go a bit lower on the food chain shall we ? "Head on, apply directly to the forehead, head on, apply directly to the forehead". And that's it. Does anyone want to tell me what this shit is supposed to do ? They don't say if it's a headache remedy or a deodorant, but they do mention that it is available without a prescription. The bigger point is, just who are they pandering to ? Perhaps it is the same crowd who will vote for a candidate or issue because there are more signs on people's lawns touting whatever it is.
I think head on might just be a stupidity test, I wonder how they're doing.
One last word about the smoking ban. It is unlawful anywhere in the US. If I own a business I solely decide what goes on there and the potential customers decide whether or not to come based on my decisions.
I know of one bar that is going to have to reevaluate certain decisions. Not last time, but last week we were at a bar hooping it up to the tune of the band and yes, being the sociopaths we are, we went out to burn one. A lefthander so to speak. Found out there is a $2 reentry fee. I remember my words to the Woman at the desk "I will pay this, but under extreme protest, I might not come back because of it, and maybe this band won't either (I know them and I go into the mosh pit and everything).
Pot is something else, if you don't like the smell of it you REALLY don't like the smell of it. Like cigarettes. Since it is against code and/or statute (not unlawful) I can understand we gotta go outside. We went out only once, but I smoked ½ a pack of cigarettes as I spent about $90. When I go to a bar folks, I go with MONEY. I don't just have one beer and leave, especially when it is not local.
Which brings us to pot. Cigaretes are way worse than pot, and don't throw some research at me, even if pot is worse at least you get something out of it. Also, people generally do not smoke 20 joints a day. Pot is illegal because of lobbyists. Bosch tankless water heaters were banned from import because of lobbyists. I am not even going into mandatory car insurance, but you know why that is too, lobbyists.
I like car insurance actually, if something happens I usually won't lose my house, but to give you an idea of things I got a little tidbit for you. When you are insured you have given up the right to litigate a case in the way you see fit. They can determine the settlement even if it is above their limits of liability. You are stuck with the rest of the tab.
I got into an accident just before my 18th birthday and got sued for $353,000. No insurance, wasn't mandatory at the time. My lawyer got the case settled for a couple of thou, he was sharp as a tack. This guy was good as hell at the sitdown, and if it weren't my ass in the sling I would've loved to see him operate in court. We took the settlement and I paid it off.
Congradulations non-smokers of Ohio, you have won. But that's not the point. The point is what you don't know CAN hurt you. Now if you can possibly take that activist bone and apply it to other things, some of which are even more harmful I will be on your side.
There is so much wrong out there it is not funny. Smoking was never an issue at certain places, places you have to be. Hospitals, courts and the like, and like one poster said, they are an ex-smoker who had the courtesy to not smoke if it botheres someone. Well I am the same way EVEN IN MY OWN HOME.
What's more, the non-smokers have really kicked smokers in the balls. They passed the smoking ban, OK, but then passed a 30 cent tax on each pack for the arts. Luckily that is only the county, and I shall not be paying that tax. As of when it takes effect I will indeed go to another county to buy my smokes. The arts are fine and good, but the government should have absolutely nothing to do with it. Not only should I not have to foot the bill for it, the government fucks up everything it touches, now they get a shot at people's creativity ? Sheeple voted for that one, guaranteed. You should see the inane, ugly art in this city that tax dollars paid for.
One such example in Cleveland is this ridiculous statue of a rubber stamp. Yes a rubber stamp that if used would stamp the word FREE in capital letters. This is an affront to people who died to get freedom, of which we get to enjoy a very small part. It is offensive to me, and should be to any patriot. Remember, a true patriot does not follow blindly, he protests if things are wrong, and if possible becomes a leader.
OK, you can't smoke anywhere but they want 30 cents a pack for bullshit..They put a tax on cigarettes to build an OUTDOOR stadium for the baseball team, and even though it is not domed, totally open, you can't smoke there. I for one, am getting sick of this degree of villification and ostracisation (sp?) committed on smokers. We have to be reasonable and comply. You do whatever you want. That is mobocracy.
We were forewarned by the founding Fathers of this nation that we need to keep a republic, this is not supposed to be a democracy, remember "and to the republic for which it stands" in the pledge of allegiance. The problem is that a republic requires real leaders who put the country first, and we have none, or very few, too few to do the job.
Smoking is not all that big an issue, I was all for businesses opting to proudly display a "Smoke Free" plaquard on the door to let every smoker know that it is prohibited, and stiff penalties for those who lit up in such a venue. But the owner of the business should be the one to make that decision for better or worse. Even as a smoker, if I owned a bar and decided to go smoke free because of popular demand I would not smoke, even in my own place ! Also, once I decide to display the plaquard I would subject myself to the penalties if I violated. No problem. Why would I want to wreck my customers' experience ? Strictly a business decision.
I think that is reasonable. Others do not. It is their way or the highway. Who is right ? Gawd I hope they don't make it so I can't smoke on the highway, given what has happened so far it is possible.
People used to say "it's a free country" but you rarely hear that anymore for obvious reasons, the thing that dismays me is that the People had a hand in not only letting this happen, but MAKING it happen. I think I'll go back to bed, already blew work off today, but I can get away with it. I am willing to be reasonable, for now.
If my rights get trampled much more I can't promise to remain reasonable. That's what happened in 1776, and I think it's about time for it to come around again.
My idea of passive resistance in the smoking matter might be OK I won't smoke, but I will go after not taking a shower or bath for a few weeks. Smell like the homeless but got a hundred or two on me. Whaddya think of that ? I paid just as much to get in here as you, and I don't like your perfume. Who goes ? Who has rights ?
The crux of the matter is none of us have any rights, they are merely priveledges granted by our masters. And I don't mean that in a good way at all. Not at all.
I didn't mean for this to get this long. It just happened, but thanks to all for making this the melee that it is, that's what we're here for.
One last thing, those of you who need inhalers because of breathing problems, I understand. But there are just some places you can't go. If you want real help instead of treating the symptoms, the first step is to write down everything you eat for a week, I mean everything except ummm, going down. I mean all food and drink, and don't leave out anything. They say that once certain things in you are screwed up it is forever, like cartilage. This is not true. There is one thing though, the heart. The heart is greatly inhibited from repairing itself because it can never rest. Normally if you don't clog youself with frenchfries the heart will get plenty of oxygen and stay healthy for a long time. If not you are on a downhill slope.
While smoking does not actually clog your veins and arteries, it does make them constrict. It depends on so many factors, and even though I dismissed about 80% of Dr. D'Adamo's claims in his book, I agree with parts of it and the title. One Man's food is another Man's poison. Some can smoke until they're 95 years old, others might die at 35. I think it might be a good idea to explore the other variables.
Another thing that irks me is that they adamantly refuse to admit that people have different body chemistry, the food pyramid. The wholesale dispensation of drugs with minimal thought as to this particular patient's needs. "We generally prescribe this for the condition".
Y'know, since this is a rant, I got this one final thought. On TV, billboards, the newspaper, everywhere there are drug ads. Depressed ? Take our drug. Sniffles ? Take our drug. Then we tell kids to say no to drugs.
The problem is that the kids' logic has not yet gotten fucked up by education so they don't get it. Pills, inhalers, the shit you put on the forehead for whatever unrevealed reason are just fine, but other things are not. They don't see it that way. Actually neither do I, I would smoke a joint but I will not take a painkiller of any kind. I haven't in 20 years and I ain't starting now.
Gawd this is long. I am going to stop now, I hope you found something interesting here.
T
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