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RE: On Deception - 11/22/2006 9:32:20 AM

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Aine,

Now who could argue against that position.

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RE: On Deception - 11/22/2006 9:34:40 AM

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I just take this perspective on the liars. My sadistic side laughs but in truth it is really sad isn't it.

I mean, if a person is lying to gain something it will be a rather short lived satisfaction. They will obviously be found out sooner or later and lose the beginning relationship that might have been something wonderful had they only been honest. They will have to begin the process all over, it will be a cycle. Never any lasting fullfillment. Until they deal with their issues they will remain miserable.

Whereas those of us that begin honestly and stay on course will eventually have that lasting fullfillment. We may get sidetracked by an occasional bullshitter along the way but in their cycle they will drop off to the wayside. We will move on until we find the real treasure.

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RE: On Deception - 11/22/2006 9:52:34 AM

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One of the first lessons, and one i continue to have to practice is adjusting myself to Master's pace. He is wiser than i when it comes to the human psyche. i am much like a kid in a candy shop wanting to touch and taste everything fast and put everything in place quickly. He slows me down typically by just absolutely amazing me with His incredible insight. When i get scared and find myself struggling to submit He tells me trust means doing/believing something without proof. Thank You, Master.

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RE: On Deception - 11/22/2006 11:03:21 AM

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I guess another way to look at things, I'm wondering if a person is upfront and honest about themselves and their situations, how does that person set themselves up for disappointment/failure? We have absolutely no control over who lies to us, about what, and why.

Some people aren't quite so social savvy, and while meaning well and are earnest in their attempts to be open and communicate with others, they might not see that person for who they are, if, in fact that person is of a less than savory flavor.

I don't consider those people as people that set themselves up for failure. I see them as perhaps a little misguided. And generally those people are very sensitive, and tend to be vocal about things, not always fully understanding why it seems that people "target" them, or that they feel like they are hurt more often than others. I see it as a lack of foresight. It's a lack of "worldliness" as some might call it.

Not all of those people are self-sheltered. Not all of those people are the ones that for some odd reason seek out those less than savory characters. Whether consciously or subconsciously.

I for one during my younger years was one of those that was sheltered by her surroundings, her upbringings. I always felt as though I understood what was going on around me, when in reality, I had no flaming clue. I wasn't as insightful as I've become (and I wouldn't consider myself over insightful nowadays, just more than I was when I was younger).

I didn't intentionally set myself up for bad relationships, bad friendships and bad situations. I was just naieve and rather short-sighted when it came to those I surrounded myself with and it took a lot of time and a lot of mis-steps for me to start to see things the way I was supposed to rather than becoming even more....I guess introverted in my views of people and perhaps bitter. Nowadays I take a step back to assess people and situations more than I used to and have found myself much more careful, less overly-trusting, and to be honest, a little more sane these days. But it didn't change my level of overall friendliness or cheerful outlook. I'm still rather optimistic and open. Just not quite so...blind. *adjusts her glasses* The new prescription helps too lol

Hopefully that didn't wander around too much and still made some sort of sense in relation to the OP.

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RE: On Deception - 11/22/2006 11:49:53 AM

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*shrugs*
Maybe because I have grown up around the internet--I actually used to hang out on icq when I was like 14--I kinda take it for granted that people are pixels until you meet them.

I'm honest. I'm skeptical of others. I don't bother messaging people back who can't be bothered to share details about their life outside of the scene. And, possibly most importantly, I have high standards and accept the consequences of that. I know it will take time. It's kinda like dieting. If you're looking to lose 100lbs. in a week, you're more likely to fall for weight loss scams. If you're looking to lose 20lbs in six months, you'll take a more realistic approach.

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RE: On Deception - 11/22/2006 2:40:52 PM

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The problem is putting all one's eggs in the wrong basket. I see nothing innately wrong with moving quickly into a relationship, it has as great of a chance as any other relationship in my opinion.

People get hurt when they take risks, we should calculate our risks and act according to our own best interests, but we must take a risk or stay alone. I am of the opinion that people are willing to move quickly when they have found the right person, but they also move quickly when they are desperate... its hard to tell which is which...

Relationships should move forward because you want to move toward something, not because you are running away from something.

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