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1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 4:30:33 PM   
ownedjulia


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Status: offline 		thought this would appeal. I actually do agree with a lot of it for a slave more than a housewife!

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 4:41:08 PM   
daddysprop247


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Status: offline 		have seen that around for years now, too bad it's probably a phoney. although i do agree with it pretty much 100%, whether for a wife or a slave. i kinda have an old-fashioned view of "wife" that's no longer supported by western society...so slavery fits better under the circumstances.

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 4:46:45 PM   
Hisgirlforever


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Status: offline 		Thanks Julia!

This is great.  These are my goals :)

I also believe that this is how a wife showed behave as well.  I mean a wife that stays home. I guess I am old fashioned :)


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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:01:42 PM   
Lady Alaria


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Sub yes, wife, no, unless she's a sub too. It would make a good recipe for a husband imho...

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:06:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedjulia

thought this would appeal. I actually do agree with a lot of it for a slave more than a housewife!

http://www.slave1.co.uk/julia/housekeeping.jpg



Seen this a number of times. A girlfriend (Vanilla) once sent it to me as a "joke", the joke was on her when I replied that I agreed with the article
I think women (or the sub males out there) should be this way D/s or vanilla. There has been a little talk lately of divorce and what are the causes etc.  I think the fact that women are being forced out into the work place due to rising costs etc plays a big part in divorce rates. Yes there are those women who want and have careers, I am attending uni next year to become a Speech Pathologist myself, so agree they should have them. However I cant help feeling/thinking that there are a LOT of men out there (or Dommes) who would much rather come home to the little woman/man looking good and being their haven. A home must be a mans castle. The old saying "the way to a mans heart is through his stomach" is wrong, IMO, feed a mans ego everytime and you'll get there much faster. Its the little things you do that count. Drop to you kness as he sits in his chair, remove his shoes, massage his feet before placing his slippers on. Lay out his clothes for him, turn back the sheets on the bed, run his bath etc
In the Vanilla world I'd be bashed for trying to set female rights back a 100 years by saying this, but I think most will agree I am not saying take the right of voting away, or the right to study and become a doctor etc. All I am saying is a little less selfishness will go a long way to improving/repairing the family unit. Now thats about 4 cents worth, sorry tended to run on a bit lol.

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:23:32 PM   
mallory21


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Status: offline 		I couldnt agree with you more! I am also going to college and pursuing a career also, but after reading the article on how to "be a good wife" i realize that many of the things i do ring true with that 1950's ideal.
It makes everything go so much smoother if women just act like women sometimes. It turns my home into a sanctuary to do the little things that you talked about... helping him take off his shoes, putting a little extra effort into dinner or my looks, washing him in the shower. All of the women that would "bash" you in the Vanilla world for saying things like this might find peace in giving up a little of themselves, and would be surprised at what they would get back.
... so I think we are up to 8 cents now :)

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:33:04 PM   
Nitedom


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Status: offline 		Very well said.  The 1950's housewife ideal appeals to me on so many different levels.
And not to be presumptious, as I understand you didn't say take this position, but I would add my own thought that I wouldn't allow any legal restrictions on women taking what ever path they may chose in life. 
It seems to me something to cherish and hold even more dear when your woman gives you this through her choice. 

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ORIGINAL: SamKeithsslave

quote:

ORIGINAL: ownedjulia

thought this would appeal. I actually do agree with a lot of it for a slave more than a housewife!

http://www.slave1.co.uk/julia/housekeeping.jpg



Seen this a number of times. A girlfriend (Vanilla) once sent it to me as a "joke", the joke was on her when I replied that I agreed with the article
I think women (or the sub males out there) should be this way D/s or vanilla. There has been a little talk lately of divorce and what are the causes etc.  I think the fact that women are being forced out into the work place due to rising costs etc plays a big part in divorce rates. Yes there are those women who want and have careers, I am attending uni next year to become a Speech Pathologist myself, so agree they should have them. However I cant help feeling/thinking that there are a LOT of men out there (or Dommes) who would much rather come home to the little woman/man looking good and being their haven. A home must be a mans castle. The old saying "the way to a mans heart is through his stomach" is wrong, IMO, feed a mans ego everytime and you'll get there much faster. Its the little things you do that count. Drop to you kness as he sits in his chair, remove his shoes, massage his feet before placing his slippers on. Lay out his clothes for him, turn back the sheets on the bed, run his bath etc
In the Vanilla world I'd be bashed for trying to set female rights back a 100 years by saying this, but I think most will agree I am not saying take the right of voting away, or the right to study and become a doctor etc. All I am saying is a little less selfishness will go a long way to improving/repairing the family unit. Now thats about 4 cents worth, sorry tended to run on a bit lol.

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:38:48 PM   
Lady Alaria


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Status: offline 		Spoken like a true submissive SK'sslave.

One of the great benefits, and the main draws, of lifestyle D/s seems to be the fact that for many, this type of relationship _did_ work. The only problem I have with all this, and the subcontext of most of the replies here, has been the split along gender lines. Unless wife has come to mean the submissive in a relationship regardless of gender.

It would, I'm sure, be quite convenient for those of the maledom persuasion if the 'old-fashioned' way was still considered the norm(and in many places, it still is). It would mean that you didn't feel like your lifestyle was unusual, or unacceptable to most people. But it would be hell on the femdom folks, not to mention the bi, gay, and poly folks.

To say that this is how most relationships should go, vanilla or D/s, even not taking into account the tiny tack on for Dommes and male subs, negates the many people in the world working very hard to figure out ways to make a non-D/s, equal relationship work with very little roadmap. Particularly considering there actually are a number of people making it work. It's new, it's hard, and we're messing up a lot. We're still figuring out how things work, creating a whole new set of mythologies to understand it. It will take generations before things settle down, and at the rate we're going, more changes will break up the landscape between now and then.

The beauty of the option of lifestyle D/s is the possibility of still allowing an 'old-fashioned' style of relationship. And being able to define how it will work yourself. In any number of combinations. All is permitted. I hope it continues to rise in popularity. But don't go judging those for whom it holds no draw, or for those who love to play at bdsm as part of their relationship, but maintain equal power outside the bedroom(re: selfishness being a prime cause of the high divorce rate).

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:43:41 PM   
Lady Alaria


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mallory21

I couldnt agree with you more! I am also going to college and pursuing a career also, but after reading the article on how to "be a good wife" i realize that many of the things i do ring true with that 1950's ideal.
It makes everything go so much smoother if women just act like women sometimes. It turns my home into a sanctuary to do the little things that you talked about... helping him take off his shoes, putting a little extra effort into dinner or my looks, washing him in the shower. All of the women that would "bash" you in the Vanilla world for saying things like this might find peace in giving up a little of themselves, and would be surprised at what they would get back.
... so I think we are up to 8 cents now :)



grr.
I know plenty of women who act very much like women who don't feel any need or desire to act like a 1950's housewife, and for whom it would be highly degrading to do so. Speak for yourself.

Edited to add:
If it works for you, great. I'm sure it would work quite well for a number of bored vanilla housewives as well. But putting things in these terms sounds very much like you are 'bashing' right back.

And if a woman has her own career, equal to her husband's, why should she be expected to go through all these extra motions that he does not? Unless she has made the choice to be his slave, and gets pleasure from these actions(and his reciprocation as Master)?

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:50:13 PM   
LadySeraphina


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Status: offline 		My boy can't wait until I make enough money that his life is making my coffee, cooking my meals, and catering to me at all times. As it is, we both work, he caters to me a great deal, and I in turn pamper him from time to time. Does it make me less of a Domme that sometimes I bathe him in the shower? Or that sometimes I tell him to rest and fetch what he needs? I think not.

No matter what gender you are, if you seek to be a house slave, the 1950s sort of thing can be nearly on target, but we have to stay flexible. [/rant]

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:52:56 PM   
katie7


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Status: offline 		I think there is something to be said for really srtrict gender role seapartaion.
I'm really into this and victorian households where the wife was even more under the controll nad mercy of her husband.
Before I met my beloved Master, I was  mentally ill, a  struggling financially single mum and student working full time to try and make ens meet . My life was chaos. No matter how much I stuggled to keep my head above water I constantly felt out of control.
He put order, routine, and strict disipline  in my life, and with his appreciation
for those things which I could barely keep up with namly the art if keeping house and caring for a family.Over time I came to realise thtate with his help I didnt need to work and over night became so much better. With the weight of my out of control finances finally lifted  and  able to concentrate on what really mattered for Him. So now I have the perfect life I have always wanted. I cook, clean, laundry, keep house  be available 24/7 for His needs nd my child, and continure my studies on a part time basis. While caring for my Masters needs,  He cares for mine mentally, spiritaully, physically  and sexually not to mention financially. I get an alowance every week and use it for the house hold and when He thinks I need new clothes He goes shopping with me so I dont buy anything that He dosnt like or is too distasteful. I am one very spoiled submissive and I feel so lucky to have Him my master and my Mentor in my life. I am much more at peace with myself in the last year , knowing and   loving where my place is in life by his feet collared and waiting to serve.Thank you Master.

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:55:49 PM   
LadySeraphina


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Status: offline 		katie,

I'm glad to see that works for you, but in what way do you see that as gender separation and not just your individual needs? I personally have no need or desire to serve and be kept under someone's thumb. My boy's world revolves around me (his words) and we like it that way.

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 5:56:29 PM   
daddysprop247


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Status: offline 		SamKeithsslave, i agree with much of what you say. in many respects i'm an old-fashioned kinda gal myself. i will admit to having a totally anti-feminist, non-PC belief in traditional gender roles. not that all men are naturally Dominant, or all women naturally submissive, there are exceptions to every rule, blah blah (insert disclaimer of your choice here). i look at a lot of women in typical, "modern" vanilla relationships (and men too for that matter), who are so truly lost...each is fighting for power at any given moment, there is no set Head or Leader, there is just so much drama and confusion, and so much discontent. and i think if only they could just stop fighting nature how much smoother and simpler it could be for them.

i often wish that i lived in a society where this relationship type was still considered the norm...nothing out of the ordinary. before i discovered D/s, i actually did a lot of research while i was involved with a muslim man, and seriously considered converting to the orthodox version of that religion, in great part because of the clearly assigned gender roles...female in submission to male, female as the natural property of male, etc. one reason i have no desire to be married in this day and age is because it means something entirely different now than what i believe. ah, calgon, take me away to the days when a female was considered property of her Father until married, when she became property of her Husband. when a man disciplining his property was nobody's business. when a woman couldn't obtain a divorce as easily as she can cancel a credit card. *sigh*

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 6:01:43 PM   
Lashra


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Status: offline 		I was married once and if my husband had followed these rules I would have been a happy Wife. After working all day long at the job I was tired and coming home to a nice clean house and a hot meal, have him rub my feet and run a nice bubble bath would have made my day. But because he worked outside of the home he felt I should work AND do all the domestic chores, needless to say our union did not last. I'm way to dominant for that,

I think the 1950's style housewife/househusband is great for those who can afford for whichever one that desires to stay home.  I personally was never the stay at home wife type who met the hubby at the door with his slippers.

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 6:05:30 PM   
LadySeraphina


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Status: offline 		I'm with you, Lashra. I can't wait until my boy can stay home. When we have the unmentionable (planned, not pregnant) he will be the househusband and stay-at-home dad. On the up side parenting-wise, I have a flexible schedule and work from home, so I can spend a lot of time with the unmentionable. He looks forward to it as much as I do.

*sigh* Soon, please let it be soon...

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 6:10:57 PM   
withthesewings


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Status: offline 		I've had this article (and I would just like to add that it is a copy of an authentic article) saved for a long time, and it wasnt until now, now that I've seen it posted here and the responces to it, that I have actually felt like I could openly admit and say that I DO agree and would happily and lovingly go along with many of the ideas there. I have a wonderful Daddy-Dom and it's the inner desire to want to please and to make him happy that would make all the difference in the world with doing these things. 

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 6:14:18 PM   
LadySeraphina


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Status: offline 		Good luck with it, wings.

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 6:26:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		i adore this. and here i am a child of the 1970's. sheesh talk about rebelling against your environment! 

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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 6:28:03 PM   
SamKeithsslave


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lady Alaria

Spoken like a true submissive SK'sslave.

One of the great benefits, and the main draws, of lifestyle D/s seems to be the fact that for many, this type of relationship _did_ work. The only problem I have with all this, and the subcontext of most of the replies here, has been the split along gender lines. Unless wife has come to mean the submissive in a relationship regardless of gender.

Agreed, which was why I did the slashy thing. Gender shouldnt come into it. If a male sub does this for him Domme, then thats great too. I believe for any relationship to prosper one partner needs to be submissive to the other. Thats not to say that joint decisions should never be made, or that the Dom/me should not consult the sub about things, what I mean is that in the end after discusion the Dom/me - IMO - should have final say.

It would, I'm sure, be quite convenient for those of the maledom persuasion if the 'old-fashioned' way was still considered the norm(and in many places, it still is). It would mean that you didn't feel like your lifestyle was unusual, or unacceptable to most people. But it would be hell on the femdom folks, not to mention the bi, gay, and poly folks.

Yeah, it is hell for the Femdom folks and the bi, gay and poly

To say that this is how most relationships should go, vanilla or D/s, even not taking into account the tiny tack on for Dommes and male subs, negates the many people in the world working very hard to figure out ways to make a non-D/s, equal relationship work with very little roadmap. Particularly considering there actually are a number of people making it work.

I certainly wouldnt want to be viewed as trying to negate the work many couple are doing in order to make an equal relationship work, thats not my intention. There are people making compromise work, but thats the point, its work I just prefer to not have to struggle with finding a way to be equal and compromise and instead just submit. I'm so much happier that way. Its just my personal opinion that equal relationships are hard work. And the compromising and sharing etc doesnt usually happen without some argument etc. I have enough stresses - LOL, dont we all?
 
It's new, it's hard, and we're messing up a lot. We're still figuring out how things work, creating a whole new set of mythologies to understand it. It will take generations before things settle down, and at the rate we're going, more changes will break up the landscape between now and then.

The beauty of the option of lifestyle D/s is the possibility of still allowing an 'old-fashioned' style of relationship. And being able to define how it will work yourself. In any number of combinations. All is permitted. I hope it continues to rise in popularity. But don't go judging those for whom it holds no draw, or for those who love to play at bdsm as part of their relationship, but maintain equal power outside the bedroom(re: selfishness being a prime cause of the high divorce rate).

I do not judge the individuals who do not wish to embrace the D/s lifestyle. My comments are more general than that. I am way more submissive in the bedroom than out of it, but I consider that in order for me to view my man as a man and a Dom I need to be submissive in small ways through out the relationship also.
As for selfishness being the prime cause of divorce? It is. Whats the first thing as marriage guidance counsellor will advise? Compromise and IMO, one can not compromise without stopping, hindering or altering their selfish behaviours. There is no "sharing" without lack of selfishness.



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RE: 1950's Housewife - 11/21/2006 6:31:21 PM   
SamKeithsslave


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lashra
I think the 1950's style housewife/househusband is great for those who can afford for whichever one that desires to stay home.  I personally was never the stay at home wife type who met the hubby at the door with his slippers.

~Lashra



Agreed, unfortunately, less and less couples are unable to have this lifestyle due to interest rates and the cost of living.

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